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#51
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Pwner1323 wrote...

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having a bunch of shepards fighting on the same map is retarded. something like the red dead redemption mp would be better.


Hey look! Someone with half a brain!

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That's a half more then you, why do people always insist a game needs to be multiplayer? MGS4 implemented MP and it sucked some games are meant to be single player. Did you complain that Oblivion wasnt MP, how about Alan Wake? I understand wanting to play with friends and play online but sometimes you need to realize how much a game would change if mp is implemented, of course the single player will fall in quality because more time and resources would be burned up testing a mp, which would just be modded or hacked anyway.

Modifié par Ozzy57, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:57 .


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If they're going to make multiplayer, they should make it DLC.

Those who want to buy it, buy it!
Those who don't want to buy it, don't!

And BioWare can charge for the DLC, ergo make more profit from ME3, while not potentially making those who want ME to remain SP unhappy.


Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?

Modifié par slimgrin, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:58 .


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My problem is that Bioware will be using the finale of a popular single-player trilogy as a guinea pig for MP. I wouldn't mind a MP ME spin-off, but can we please finish Shepard's story arc with the biggest bang possible?

It's not like ME2's sales or reviews were so bad that ME3 needs MP to succeed.

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:59 .


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Pwner1323 wrote...


[i]Who wouldn't want to play as they're own Shepard in a Gears of War style deathmatch against Collectors and Husks?



You are right to your opinion, and I applaud how well you formulated it, however, I for one wouldnt ant this, and I don't appreciate a thread telling other people why they think like they do (even though there is truth in much of what you say why I don't want it).

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Pwner1323 wrote...

I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?


This thread is doomed anyways, so this won't hurt a bit.

Modifié par Khayness, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:01 .


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I still like JamieCTOC? post, as a stand alone program. . . Then the money spent on it can go right for the the development and maintenance of the program. Also their will be NO STORY with it. . .

Plus just how many more polls have to be done to get some to realize IT ISN'T WANTED.

Modifié par Element_Zero, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:02 .


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slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.


Nobody "loses" with Baldur's Gate-style co-op, either. In all the times I've posted the idea of using a simple client where two players control the squaddies have never been refuted without anti-MP fanatics resorting to hyperbole or just telling me to die in a fire.

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Schneidend wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.


Nobody "loses" with Baldur's Gate-style co-op, either. In all the times I've posted the idea of using a simple client where two players control the squaddies have never been refuted without anti-MP fanatics resorting to hyperbole or just telling me to die in a fire.


Except how to handle the conversations making it interesting for both, combat is only part of the game after all.

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slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.

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I think it should be made possible to lose your right to make opinions.

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Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


Things end. I don't know when people stopped accepting this. Maybe when Starwars Episode 1 came out?

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Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


Bioware has stated previously that ME would not be over after the triliogy this is just Shepard's final game and the end of his triliogy

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ZachForrest wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


Things end. I don't know when people stopped accepting this. Maybe when Starwars Episode 1 came out?


Still.......

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Schneidend wrote...

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Option 2: Now you can completely ignore the time-consuming process of making your own Shepard and just take over the squadmates for someone else's character! After all, it's not like the squad is important to the story or offers any interaction at all. Just toss it all out, no need to write dialogue for squad members anymore. We'll just assume that the person who just spent $100 on this totally awesome MP game has enough friends to take over the squad roles. If they don't, they can just sit around the lobby server waiting for someone to take over the last spot. All we'd need is a few lines of party banter and some battle cries, and we're all set!


Or, instead of spouting hyperbole like a jackass, you could recognize that all such an option would need to entail is players 2 and 3 control the squaddies on missions, move them around, fire their guns, use their powers. Shepard can still talk to them, using the exact same dialogue resources from the normal single-player game.


Hyperbole?  Zaeed and Kasumi.

Oh, I'm sure they *could* spend time fully developing the characters that they expect to be controlled by actual people taking a backseat to the main player.  Or they could cut off the dialogue tree after four conversations and save money.  What do you think they'll actually do?  After all, multiplayer means the players have each other to talk to.  Why would they be interested in anything beyond a quick summary of the character they're playing?  Sure, they could take the time to put it in, but come on, it's multiplayer.  All the players want is to find a decent group, and get out there so they can shoot stuff.  If they really wanted backstory and codex entries, they'd play a single player game.

So, really, what's the appeal of being players 2 and 3 anyway?  Come in for missions, cheer about your position on the leaderboards, and then what?  I'm not getting it.

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Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


I kinda hope there wont be a ME4, shepard's story should be over in ME3, and after that it should be whole new game in the ME universe, with as much multiplayer as they want to put into it.

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Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


Quality over quantity. Take Firefly for example - only 14 episodes were produced, yet it is the most memorable television series I have ever watched. 

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Schneidend wrote...

Nobody "loses" with Baldur's Gate-style co-op, either. In all the times I've posted the idea of using a simple client where two players control the squaddies have never been refuted without anti-MP fanatics resorting to hyperbole or just telling me to die in a fire.


Those were different times, and the partymembers didn't differ from the main character that much. They just don't handle the conversations and you don't get a game over if one of them dies. Gameplay wise it's totally different if you compare the ME 2 gimped squaddies to the player character.

You still have to appoint a Bhaalspawn if you are running with a custom made party, right?

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Pwner1323 wrote...

ZachForrest wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


Things end. I don't know when people stopped accepting this. Maybe when Starwars Episode 1 came out?


Still.......


I know ME is super great and we'd all like it to go on forever etc....But there's a poetry and beauty in a great trilogy. Beginning  - Middle - End.  Three is definitely the magic number.

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Pwner1323 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Or a separate game altogether. Then everyone wins.

So I ask pwner, what's wrong with that?


Nothing, but like all of you I have fears too. Mine is that there will not be a ME4.


You should know by now that Shepard's story ends after ME3, but the universe and their dealings with it will continue. Who knows what they will do, but they aren't tossing it in the trash. Given the fact they have branched out to making an mmo, multiplayer/co-op seems entirely possible in the future.

I'm not a programmer. I only assume multiplayer would drain time from single player because of what I've seen and experienced with most modern games. I also assume balancing combat, making maps etc. is no small task. We need a dev to comment on this.

Modifié par slimgrin, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:11 .


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I think this thread is moot, since the idea of multiplayer has somewhat been thrown out the door. It has been stated by a moderator (I'm not mentioning anyone specific *coughcoonscough*) that the Mass Effect trilogy is a single player series. While this has been noted by other Bioware PR members that this may be said moderator overstepping his/her bounds, I firmly believe that's just the PR team covering their behinds.



Now with ME3 coming out at the end of this year, it's my belief that this is far too short a time to effectively develop and polish a multiplayer section. So in the end, whether I want multiplayer in ME3 or not, it's not likely to happen.



And I'd rather it didn't come in ME3. It just wouldn't work on so many levels.

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Pwner1323: I think multiplayer souds like a splendid idea for a series with so many royalties like BW's Mass Effect franchise.

Realist Gamer: I do not want the finale of a trilogy about my Shepard to potentially be ruined due to a shoehorned multiplayer component. Why take such a risk on the third act when they can develop a spin off title and earn double the profit?


Just thought I would correct that for you, Pwner. ;)

What you have to appreciate is, and I shall quote myself here. "At the end of the day. If ME3 has multiplayer, it will be because BioWare, EA or both perceive they can attract a fanbase who loathes lengthily dialogue. Even if it were decent, this feature has to be enough to convince that fanbase to play less of Call of Duty or Halo; the two kingpin MP games.

My query is, why would they shell sixty dollars to play a multiplayer version of ME3 when they already own arguably the best MP in present day existence? I will happily eat crow for the following statement if proven wrong however ME3 MP will not be superior, no matter what BioWare thinks."

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Severyx wrote...

It has been stated by a moderator (I'm not mentioning anyone specific *coughcoonscough*) that the Mass Effect trilogy is a single player series. While this has been noted by other Bioware PR members that this may be said moderator overstepping his/her bounds, I firmly believe that's just the PR team covering their behinds.


Moderators aren't employees, their statements do not reflect anything at all, they know nothing about BioWare's work, the PR team don't have to cover for anything.

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The only mp I want in ME3 is an early mp beta access to the ME game that actually has mp not ME3

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Khayness wrote...

Severyx wrote...

It has been stated by a moderator (I'm not mentioning anyone specific *coughcoonscough*) that the Mass Effect trilogy is a single player series. While this has been noted by other Bioware PR members that this may be said moderator overstepping his/her bounds, I firmly believe that's just the PR team covering their behinds.


Moderators aren't employees, their statements do not reflect anything at all, they know nothing about BioWare's work, the PR team don't have to cover for anything.


And yet they still felt the need to. Regardless of whether moderators are employees or not, Bioware PR still felt the need to cover themselves. Why not just say 'moderators have no say', rather than 'they overstepped their bounds'? It's because there was something to be had.

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slimgrin wrote...

You should know by now that Shepard's story ends after ME3, but the universe and their dealings with it will continue.


That's the thing, I only care about Shepard. he is the best video game character I have ever created. That is why i want MP in ME3, so I can always go back and reunite with my Shepard (does that sound weird?).

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