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#201
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Valo_Soren wrote...

Icinix wrote...

You've come here for an argument haven't you?


No I'm just tired of people ****ing about things when: 

1. There's not enough information on whether or not their will even be an MP component.
2. A lot of people really have no clue what they are even talking about and sound like a bunch of whiny selfish fans.
3. People like you recycle tired old arguments that have been proven wrong by several games in the past.

And that's about it.


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LOL.  Well , all the best. Fight the good fight precious!

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[quote]Icinix wrote...

[quote]Valo_Soren wrote...

[quote]Icinix wrote...


No I'm just tired of people ****ing about things when: 

1. There's not enough information on whether or not their will even be an MP component.
2. A lot of people really have no clue what they are even talking about and sound like a bunch of whiny selfish fans.
3. People like you recycle tired old arguments that have been proven wrong by several games in the past.

And that's about it.

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LOL.  Well , all the best. Fight the good fight precious!

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 Selfish fans?
Are you serious?
Us selfish fans are the ones who made Mass Effect all of its money in the first place
& raised it to a level where the sellouts at Bioware would even be bold enough to add a multiplayer to please all
of you Halo playing single serving Mass Effect fans....

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[quote]mangeo wrote...

[quote]Icinix wrote...

[quote]Valo_Soren wrote...

[quote]Icinix wrote...


No I'm just tired of people ****ing about things when: 

1. There's not enough information on whether or not their will even be an MP component.
2. A lot of people really have no clue what they are even talking about and sound like a bunch of whiny selfish fans.
3. People like you recycle tired old arguments that have been proven wrong by several games in the past.

And that's about it.

[/quote]

^.-

LOL.  Well , all the best. Fight the good fight precious!

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 Selfish fans?
Are you serious?
Us selfish fans are the ones who made Mass Effect all of its money in the first place
& raised it to a level where the sellouts at Bioware would even be bold enough to add a multiplayer to please all
of you Halo playing single serving Mass Effect fans....[/quote]

If you actually think adding a multiplayer component is 'selling out' then you are way to obsessed with Mass Effect in the first place.

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Also I don't even play Halo so....try again.

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Can we stop rehashing this topic? There have been dozens of threads about this already and odds are we aren't going to cover any new ground on this subject.




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Personally, I'm against a multiplayer for ME3 because I'm pretty sure it will take away resources for developing the single player.

It's one thing if you designed the single player and multiplayer portions of a game simultaneously like in Halo or GoW but a game like Mass Effect is designed for single player solely. Branching out into multiplayer will eat up development time/resources.

With Halo and GoW, they could work on balance of weapons, abilities, etc while the single player storyline/script is being designed/built. While with a game like Mass Effect, they'll have to completely redesign the mechanics of the game to make it as balanced as they can.

The reason why people are thinking this will happen is because they already drastically redesigned the mechanics from ME1 to ME2 already and don't think they will be doing so again for ME3. At the most, people are just thinking fine tuning of the current combat system is what will be happening so most of the development can be focused on the story.

I also believe that multiplayer for ME3 won't really increase the sales of ME3 by a big enough to be worth the investment of time/money/man power spent to develop said multiplayer. The same people that want multiplayer for ME3 were more likely going to be getting the game regardless of multiplayer being in the game.

If anything, I'd expect Bioware to make a seperate Mass Effect multiplayer game for people to buy.  That would maximize the amount of profits they would earn and they could give it the proper development/resources it would deserve.

Modifié par Urazz, 21 janvier 2011 - 04:22 .


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the true reason i dont want it to have any kind is....yes im afraid it will take away from single player campagin.it wouldnt make sense to me to install MP in me3 since it hasnt had any to begin with.If they made other type of MEU games and had MP in them i would not have a problem with it.this series started off SP i feel it should finish SP.the reason i love SP games is the story driving content and unique exp system.alot of MP games lack in that department,mmos are the exception but even then theyre still missing something...either way i want me3 to be sp.after that me can have much MP as the "gear fans" wants.because then ill probably wont be playing it.


See this argument doesn't make any sense to me. Just because there may be a multiplayer component doesn't mean it would affect or ruin the single player campaign in any way. Take Assassin's Creed brotherhood for example, that game has a very good MP component but still a very solid and epic Single player campaign that isn't really hurt by the MP component. Gears of War is another good example, they have incredible single player campaigns with deep story and a Multiplayer component that doesn't really ruin anything, Halo as well. there are a lot of games that have single player campaigns and mP components that do not ruin the SP campaign. And this is Bioware we are talking about not another game company. Bioware doesn't make a bad game. They will probably do it better then any of the above games I mentioned. You, and others act like the multiplayer is going to replace the single player campaign or something like thats all it's going to be, like an mmo or something but its not. They will still have the third act in the shepard story, that will most likely still be all single player and will be just as epic as mass effect 1 and mass effect 2. you don't have to play the mp component if you don't want to, you have the option of not playing it so why worry about it? 


I agree bioware is a force to be recken with.i worry because im a foolish nerd,who dosnt want a chance taken and it back fires and blows up in our face.ill give you assassins creed:brotherhood hands down one of th best games that actually showd MP wasnt just a last second add for needy MP kids.they actually took their time and created a feature that could handle its own and them some.gears of war in my opinion isnt that much story driven,as far as a MP game for online battling its pretty soild(well the first one is.2nd GoW nope).I know,dont play the MP if i dont want to.if bioware added MP to Mass effect franchise i would like it to be after me3.The Mass Effect Trilogy has so much Story driven content,great exp system,good custominzation(speically me1),fun gun play,wonderful dialog,awesome party banter(me1 speically),fantastic feeling of expolration and self discovery to redefine each and every playthrough that keeps you coming back for more.too add any kind of Mp would be selfish and tone down the experince you get from campagian.i honestly do understand how co-op MP could enhance the experince of playing.i feel the final shepard game should finish off SP.then the next installment for any MEU game can/could have MP or be souly MP and i would be cool with that.

Mulitplayer for me depending on the game.starts off great/awesome/good when it comes to the campagin:story but always ends with me not caring for the story anymore.i never bother with the campagin again.i usually just make that my online versus game for when i want to fight against people.Like Halo,Cod,GoW, etc,etc,etc.

i hope i made myself more clear/understandable as to why me3 should not have MP.

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Like I say in most topics like this: I support Bioware with whatever they decide to do. They've never done me wrong before.

If they put multiplayer in the game and the story is still great and lives up to the other two in terms of length and content, then hey, I'm all for it. But if the game gets cut down and suffers in areas due to the addition of multiplayer or co-op, then it'll be pretty clear to me that Bioware isn't as infalliable as I had once hoped, maybe due to the EA deal.

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Icinix wrote...

You've come here for an argument haven't you?


I'm sorry, this is abuse. 

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Here is a happy medium. Have a third party develop multiplayer and make it a DLC. That way it need not affect any of us that wants it pure. It may pinch a little on the resource end, but maybe not since they would make some money selling it as DLC.

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What a friendly community we have here...

What I believe:
1. Multiplayer doesn't make a game a clone of Halo, Gears, COD, or any other shooter.
2. Multiplayer doesn't ruin a game.
3. Streamlining isn't necessarily bad.
4. It's only a single-player game because... you know what? this isn't worth finishing. It's not like anyone is going to change their minds.

That being said, I don't want ME3 to have multiplayer. I'd rather have Bioware concentrate their resources elsewhere. :P

Modifié par Sneelonz, 21 janvier 2011 - 05:58 .


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JamieCOTC wrote...

Icinix wrote...

You've come here for an argument haven't you?


I'm sorry, this is abuse. 


I'm glad someone picked up on it. The response I actually got was much more....serious. :P

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-rips apart everything-



"They should put all resources into single player"



That is a ****ty excuse to not have multiplayer. I'm sorry. Bioware is not going to fail to put the proper resources into ME 3 whether it contains a multiplayer campaign or not. This shouldn't even be an issue, my final word is that all the people who don't want a multiplayer component in ME3 really have no real good excuse as to why it shouldn't be there. Bioware is -rich- they will have enough money to pour as much as they can into the single player game and the multiplayer game if they choose to put the multiplayer component in. If they don't there's no reason for any of you to be whining anyway. This is all mere speculation at the moment but still, Bioware knows what its doing regardless and I would thank you all to shut up about it.

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I can't believe Im falling victim to making one of these threads (wich I told myself i wouldn't do) but Im sick of people going on about ME3 being ruined if MP is implemented. It's not that everyone hates the idea or doesn't want the MP. the real reason is that you're afraid that it will ruin the SP campaign wich I won't lie by saying it won't because the possibility does exist for ME3 to be ruined by it, but there is also the chance that it will be strenghten by it.

Who wouldn't want to play as they're own Shepard in a Gears of War style deathmatch against Collectors and Husks?

I understand these fears but maybe, just maybe, everyone is overreacting on the issue. If BW is truly considering a MP component, then don't you think they know better then us? They haven't let us down so far so why would they now? I think we should give them the benefit of the doubt instead of jumping down the throat of every person who
says MP may be good.

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Realist Gamer: I think multiplayer souds like a splendid idea for a series with so many royalties like BW's Mass 
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Die Hard Fan: STFU NOOB! ME EAT U N KLL U!!!!!!!!

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My suggestion is to give BW the chance to at least show how it would work if they do plan to incorporate MP in ME3. Attacking every MP thread is not the answear, since nobody (including BW) cares what a bunch of swearing fans say, and as far as it goes, that is the only thing I've seen in the MP threads.

So what do you say, will you at least give multiplayer a chance if Bioware can demostrate that it will not ruin the ME3 single player campaign?


(Something tells me this thread is going to get ugly)



I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?

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I don't think a new thread was nessary to make that statement as everyone knows thats why people don't want MP in Mass Effect 3, if it has MP id consider not buying  it and just wait for the endings on youtube

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How about if the game had co-op, which is a plausible idea, and it worked, which is not likely due to the haters, what would happen then (besides the world exploding and Chuck Noris dying).

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Valo_Soren wrote...

-rips apart everything-

"They should put all resources into single player"

That is a ****ty excuse to not have multiplayer. I'm sorry. Bioware is not going to fail to put the proper resources into ME 3 whether it contains a multiplayer campaign or not. This shouldn't even be an issue, my final word is that all the people who don't want a multiplayer component in ME3 really have no real good excuse as to why it shouldn't be there. Bioware is -rich- they will have enough money to pour as much as they can into the single player game and the multiplayer game if they choose to put the multiplayer component in. If they don't there's no reason for any of you to be whining anyway. This is all mere speculation at the moment but still, Bioware knows what its doing regardless and I would thank you all to shut up about it.


I swear to god man you must think money falls from trees then. You have no clue what it takes to manage or have been in a position to answer for a budget. And it is just as much a valid excuse as anyone else out there especially with the way the industry has gotten when it comes to releasing games these days. The industry has shown that once MP is installed development time is cut with story development, multipathing is forgotten, AI development stops, and depending on the studio typically the game is released with some bugs and glitches.

Blind passion man gotta love it. . . I also can see judging by your first post 6 or so hours ago, you didn't even bother to read though the thread. If your on this bandwagon to dismiss everyone elses then I can say your excuse for having it is just as weak, since there are folks that will never use it out there. Read man the book is thicker than it's cover and there are reasons for and against it by more posters than just YOU.

There are tons of people against the idea, hell just read the polls. I still say you guys that want it would be better served if they put it in a ME 4 like title with new heros / characters in that game. Especially since the MP crowd seems to be so varied in what they want. Plus I'm tired of the mudslinging that goes on with PVP - MP and how this class is more powerful than that class. . . or I think my class is too underpowered since I can't pwn everything out there. . or the screaming that goes on with campers and crap.  . .  That stuff goes on not just in game but on the boards as well. Allot of development time is spent on this trying to get everyone balanced to the point where each class is really nothing more than a cut out of one another with flashy powers. It really dose hollow out talents / skills / powers depending on what game your talking about.

This same passion you have for it also spread to those guys who are willing to do anything to have a advantage over others out there. Cheating though hacking is flagrant in alot of big titles out there. It's one of the reasons why I'm so dam fed up with MP. I've stated it before. I'm tired of the industry as a whole putting forth shortened stories like AC Brotherhood. . . just so MP can be installed. Also there are others out there that keep releasing games with some really bad bugs / glitches in them. . . Where the hell is the QA department in those studios? Course then again maybe their not running their business under ISO 9000 either. . . 

I just don't see why anyone would want to put it into a story that is suppost to be about Shepard. << this is the inverse of your arguement for it <<<

I don't see a issue with putting it into a title like UBI Soft did with AC Brotherhood, (I'm not going to buy it. I buy games for the story / single player side.) So cut down the story component to have co-op options and play which I think would be much more statifying for that crowd. Cookie cutter the player classes so they have little or no flavor to them since the PVP crowd loves to scream about this. Put in all those MP goodies you guys want in another Mass Effect title. . . I don't think they are going to end the ME universe anyway, unless ME 3 is a total flop.

Modifié par Element_Zero, 21 janvier 2011 - 08:55 .


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Rockworm503 wrote...
Red Dead Remption... Had a great singleplayer campaign, was long, and the story didn't suffer because of MP... Hell the MP is fun too!!


Resident Evil 5, Lost Planet 2, and every single Tom Clancy game says otherwise (for all of the focus on multiplayer, single-player outright sucked because of ****ty team A.I.). Hell, even the Halo games' campaigns was outright mediocre because of the extensive focus on multiplayer, and Call of Duty's entered the slope since World at War.

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Element_Zero wrote...

I swear to god man you must think money falls from trees then. You have no clue what it takes to manage or have been in a position to answer for a budget. And it is just as much a valid excuse as anyone else out there especially with the way the industry has gotten when it comes to releasing games these days. The industry has shown that once MP is installed development time is cut with story development, multipathing is forgotten, AI development stops, and depending on the studio typically the game is released with some bugs and glitches.

Blind passion man gotta love it. . . I also can see judging by your first post 6 or so hours ago, you didn't even bother to read though the thread. If your on this bandwagon to dismiss everyone elses then I can say your excuse for having it is just as weak, since there are folks that will never use it out there. Read man the book is thicker than it's cover and there are reasons for and against it by more posters than just YOU.

There are tons of people against the idea, hell just read the polls. I still say you guys that want it would be better served if they put it in a ME 4 like title with new heros / characters in that game. Especially since the MP crowd seems to be so varied in what they want. Plus I'm tired of the mudslinging that goes on with PVP - MP and how this class is more powerful than that class. . . or I think my class is too underpowered since I can't pwn everything out there. . or the screaming that goes on with campers and crap.  . .  That stuff goes on not just in game but on the boards as well. Allot of development time is spent on this trying to get everyone balanced to the point where each class is really nothing more than a cut out of one another with flashy powers. It really dose hollow out talents / skills / powers depending on what game your talking about.

This same passion you have for it also spread to those guys who are willing to do anything to have a advantage over others out there. Cheating though hacking is flagrant in alot of big titles out there. It's one of the reasons why I'm so dam fed up with MP. I've stated it before. I'm tired of the industry as a whole putting forth shortened stories like AC Brotherhood. . . just so MP can be installed. Also there are others out there that keep releasing games with some really bad bugs / glitches in them. . . Where the hell is the QA department in those studios? Course then again maybe their not running their business under ISO 9000 either. . . 

I just don't see why anyone would want to put it into a story that is suppost to be about Shepard. << this is the inverse of your arguement for it <<<

I don't see a issue with putting it into a title like UBI Soft did with AC Brotherhood, (I'm not going to buy it. I buy games for the story / single player side.) So cut down the story component to have co-op options and play which I think would be much more statifying for that crowd. Cookie cutter the player classes so they have little or no flavor to them since the PVP crowd loves to scream about this. Put in all those MP goodies you guys want in another Mass Effect title. . . I don't think they are going to end the ME universe anyway, unless ME 3 is a total flop.


Definitely on my "Buying beer for" list.

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Pwner1323 wrote...

I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?

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You're one of the few people I want to punch in the face.. and flip off.. <_<

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MasterofMunchaster wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?

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You're one of the few people I want to punch in the face.. and flip off.. <_<


And ****** on Pwner's corpse.

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MasterofMunchaster wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?

Image IPB


You're one of the few people I want to punch in the face.. and flip off.. <_<


You do know he changed his opinion in this thread though, no? And that is a bit extreme anyway...

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Matchy Pointy wrote...

MasterofMunchaster wrote...

Pwner1323 wrote...

I want multiplayer in ME3 as way to show off my Shepard and spend ME in case a 4th isn't made. Is that too much to ask?

Image IPB


You're one of the few people I want to punch in the face.. and flip off.. <_<


You do know he changed his opinion in this thread though, no? And that is a bit extreme anyway...


I don't care.. I don't like his attitude.. :wizard:

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Good grief the teddies have been really flying out of the pram on this thread havent they?!



Anyhoo, personally I dont want multiplayer either for the same reason as pretty much everyone else, I think Bioware should spend their time perfecting the single player. I am sorry if this offends anyone but opinions are like bums right? everyones got one.

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somewhat simple first finish the single player and release it then release a addon pack later on in time for people who want to do multiplayer.

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It will destroy my game experience.



For the final game in a single player trilogy having it included in ME3 will be really silly. Bioware makes great single player games. Why experiment with multiplayer on such an important game for people. They should be focusing on the single player game not wasting resources on some online rubbish!



I dont mind ME going multiplayer. Just not in ME3!!! Why EA is so fixated on multiplayer I have no idea. Bethesda shows just how strong single player games are still.