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[Wynne]

arcane-weirdo wrote...

Aveline is not an LI

Then explain the dev video with her onscreen while they're talking about romances, and all the heavy looks and tension-laced dialogue between her and Hawke. Plus, the fact about how you meet and what one of you has to do--sharing that moment is pretty intimately painful. It's a bit Jaheira-esque, only, done between two people who don't have that friendship history between them, and thus Aveline probably feels she has to be more independent, and doesn't have that nature-basis to help her let go and accept how things are. So her and Hawke need more time to come together.

No, she'll be an LI--just not an easy one.

Kritanakom wrote...

I wanted a female dwarf romance

Would be nice, huh? I liked Sigrun's personality a whole lot. I hope they go there someday. I don't for the life of me get why there would be "squick" involved, as some people were saying--being short doesn't make someone not a woman, and female dwarves look more like adult women than Merrill does. (Not an insult to Merrill, just, physically she looks younger than any female dwarf that I've seen, so I can't fathom "squick" with the idea of a dwarven LI.) 

I would like to see a female dwarf LI someday.

Siradix wrote...

Do you think Bioware will follow the same setup as Origins?

Male Romances
2 females
1 male

Female Romances
2 males
1 female

I find it probable, but I think considering the new system, there might even be more. I'm expecting some romances to be more overt and sexy (Isabela) and others to be more long-term, requiring the player to keep going at them.

Fenris and Aveline both strike me as the type to not give up their hearts easily.

[The Elder King]

Both Merrill and Aveline (I believe you're referring to the scene where Axeline confronts Fenris) have been hinted to be a romance. Personally I have no clue which one of them they're going to choose, if there will be only two female options for Male Hawke. I have no problems with both of them, because I like both, the only thing of Aveline that I don't like if she'll be an LI is that we're going to have two vidow women (althoug Isabela shares nothing with Aveline).

Maybe when they reveal the last companion (male mage) they'll say which are the romance.

[DarthCaine]

I've seen absolutely NOTHING to hint that Aveline or Varic will be LIs. They just seem like close friends in a platonic relationship with Hawke.

You people just see what you wanna see.

Wynne wrote...

Then explain the dev video with her onscreen while they're talking about romances, and all the heavy looks and tension-laced dialogue between her and Hawke.

They were talking about relationships, not romances. Relationships as in friends?

Aveline fits the role of Wynne rather than a LI

Modifié par DarthCaine, 15 janvier 2011 - 03:23 .

[catabuca]

Nadia wrote...

I feel I definitely should say that you convinced me to share most of your opinion on this subject now.
Choosing to romance some character or not might have (and often has) large implications for many later decisions and the way we experience rest of the game in Dragon Age (don't agree it's the same in me2) so it's not a shame to hope for more romance options and it wouldn't make DA a 'dating sim'. 

However, due to limited amount of sources developers can probably put in making lots of romance-related things in game I'd prefer they add more 'depth' to them (f.ex.the way I wrote before-more dialogs,emotional reactions etc.) than make simply more romance options (which may consist mostly of one cutscene and a few new dialogs)- but I know it'd be a tough decision. Can't please everyone as they say.

Anyway, my guess is that there will be: Isabella/Merrill/some male character for male Hawke, and Fenris/unnanounced male human mage/ Isabella for female Hawke. Really hope Sebastian would be a love interest, but I have some sad doubts:( due to him being a dlc-character.  

I agree with you that the same cannot be said of ME2 romances, but that's for another thread I guess.

And I also agree that I would rather have a few deep, meaningful relationships (platonic and romantic) with real ties to the rest of the game world, than lots of shallow 'there for the sake of it' options. I don't for a second believe the DA team would go with the latter, because from what I've read from them they prize depth and interwoven narrative above all else. Which is commendable.

Really my long ranty post was in reply to the way 'omg dating sim' is parroted by so many people, when I'm not exactly sure they are sure what they're saying. There is a huge difference between hoping for more deep, realistic, emotional romances to be available in the game and wanting a game to exist purely to shag various pixels. Some people are conflating the two, and it's incredibly annoying, ridiculously simplistic, and not in the least bit helpful to this discussion.

(Of course, I know you understand what I mean, I was just reiterating it, because I like the sound of my own voice ... or rather, the look of my own typing.)

[Calla S]

So there's nothing about a charming, roguish guy that can be misconstrued as being a potential romance. Riiiiight. Because that's never happened before.

People are claiming there are no hints because he's a dwarf. That's the only reason. If he was a human or even an elf, everyone would consider him a sure thing.

And on the topic of Aveline, Wynne makes an excellent point, as usual.

[The Elder King]

DarthCaine wrote...

I've seen absolutely NOTHING to hint that Aveline or Varic will be LIs. They just seem like close friends in a platonic relationship.

You people just see what you wanna see

If they're talking about the moment after the timeskip, I don't see nothing either. If they reference to the moment when Aveline confronts Fenris, the devs in this moment were talking about romance I think, though I don't understand much.

[Blastback]

David Gaider wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...
If someone wanted to write in a romance for one of the characters, since Hawke is a conglomerate of everyone's work, I doubt he'd freak out and start screaming "F--- NO! IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY, B!TCHES!"

Not for that, certainly.

Normally I just glare and arch one eyebrow. I may or may not also stroke an evil-looking lap cat.

How does the lap cat react to kitten punting?

[Nadia]

No worries @catabuca! I like the look of your typing too ) and all of this was good to be written again.
(maybe some developer will see our thoughts about more depth in game-relationships and take them into consideration, or maybe writers had similar ideas already and we'll see something even more fantastic regarding this matter in DA2!)

Modifié par Nadia, 15 janvier 2011 - 06:12 .

[schalafi]

I hope, with all the potential romances, there will still be a little time left for the plot... : )

Modifié par schalafi, 15 janvier 2011 - 05:47 .

[bluewolv1970]

outside of the companions will there be friendships/romances available with NPC's ala Kelly in mass effect 2...mind you does not need be romantic just a mor efleshed out relationship...

[Potato Cat]

Isabela - (Obviously) Male and Female

Varric - Definitely Female, maybe male as well

Aveline - Male, maybe female

Merrill - Male only

Fenris - Female, slight chance male

Seb - Female only

"Anders" - Female only

Some NPCs



I also strongly believe that Carver and Bethany will have their own LI (NOT HAWKE YOU INCEST-Y PEOPLE!)

[Zaros]

Naitaka wrote...

Sandal

Sorry I just couldn't resist the temptation.

Cool, let me just gouge out my eyes now.

[Riosred]

Will they announce the LIs or will we have to play to find out?

[Blacklash93]

If Seb is a LI, there would have to be a female counterpart. Otherwise there would be endless whining from the male gaming community.

And Varric seems really unlikely. Most people would find sleeping with a Dwarf rather repulsive.

And remember it's been confirmed multiple times that not all party members will be LI's. I only see four happening in that case. My money is on Isabela, Merrill, Fenris, and unannounced mage-guy.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 15 janvier 2011 - 11:18 .

[Calla S]

Blacklash93 wrote...
And remember it's been confirmed multiple times that not all party members will be LI's. I only see four happening in that case. My money is on Isabela, Merrill, Fenris, and unannounced mage-guy.

The six aren't all of the party members. Sebastian is a party member. Bethany or Carver is a party member. Not only that, but I seriously doubt there's only going to be a handful of characters considered party members. It's a very small number for a very long time span, not to mention those revealed are all typical and attractive, which isn't BioWare's standard. There's usually at least two or three 'odd' companions.

I've been saying this a lot lately. I feel like I should just C&P it from now on.

[Blacklash93]

Seb is DLC and Bethany/Carver can be switched out depending on class. They won't be in Cassandra's book because of that. The latter two won't be romanceable for obvious reasons and Seb is unlikely as a DLC character.

All others in Cassandra's book that we know of are confirmed party members. Thus I assume those are all the main party members and the main romance options lie among them.

There's no reason to believe we haven't seen all of the companions at this point.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 15 janvier 2011 - 11:39 .

[Calla S]

Blacklash93 wrote...
Seb is DLC and Bethany/Carver can be switched out depending on class. They won't be in Cassandra's book because of that. The latter two won't be romanceable for obvious reasons and Seb is unlikely as a DLC character.

All others in Cassandra's book that we know of are confirmed party members. Thus I assume those are all the main party members and the main romance options lie among them.

There's no reason to believe we haven't seen all of the companions at this point.

That doesn't make them any less part of the party. They are companions, making the six in Cassandra's book not the only six available. Not only that, but Mary Kirby made the comment that the six on the page don't have to be recruited to be part of the story, Isabela in particular. Honestly, with that knowledge and the knowledge that all of the companions haven't, in fact, been revealed, I don't see how anyone could come to the conclusion that the six on the page don't play an important role in Hawke's story for a reason.

[Blacklash93]

That doesn't change the fact that they would still be the main potential companions. Just because you don't have to meet Isabela doesn't change the fact that she's still a potential follower, just like everyone else pictured in the book.

And my point about Beth/Carv and Seb was that they can't be on the book because they're presence in the story isn't set in stone. One of your siblings can die in the beginning and Seb doesn't even have to be in the game.

Unless there are any other companions whose precense in the story is determined by such special conditions, there's no reason to believe there are more party members.

Your argument is wishful thinking while I'm soley going off hard evidence. I'm not saying there could be no other followers, I'm saying that it's unlikely from what we know.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 16 janvier 2011 - 12:00 .

[Riosred]

The only person left to reveal is anders isn't it?

[Blacklash93]

Riosred wrote...

The only person left to reveal is anders isn't it?

"Anders", yes. I have my doubts it's really him.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 16 janvier 2011 - 12:27 .

[Liablecocksman]

Riosred wrote...

The only person left to reveal is anders isn't it?

There will be one companion of either sex, of each of the three classes.
Now count what has been revealed, and fill in the gaps.

[Sabariel]

obnoxiousgas wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

Lady Hawke:
Fenris
Aveline
Merrill
Varric
Isabela
Mage Man
Sebastian
Cassandra
Strider
Rock Wraith
Flemeth
That guy over there
The lady on the corner
You
Me
That one
The other one

Bloke Hawke:
See above

Pfft, that's so unrealistic. My immersion will be completely broken if I don't get to romance Hawke's siblings.

Too bad. You'll just have to make due with the 100+ LIs