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Can't understand why a partially shown butt and a BOOB (come on, we've all sucked one and we were underage) makes ME a "porn" game (according to Faux News). You can see more nudity watching MTV for five minutes than in whole ME.

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Oh my god. The news are killing the brilliant minds of ME and DA! People (in US, there's no issue with nudity in Japan as far as I know, at least not with ME) unite and demonstrate for naked video game characters during romance scenes!

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I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.

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Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it.....

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Glad you decided to drag up OLD news..must be a slow day in the forums.

Fox News is no less or more of a news agency then any other fricken news you want to subscribe to. One story about a video game you like and now it's all trash and the people who watch it are brainless sheeple. Yeah ok, the posters in here that have that opinion are committing the same mistake that the reporter did with that story.

Just like it's in vogue to bash FN, it's also in vogue to blame video games for societies ills. It's an easy scapegoat. Don't take it so personally.



As far as nudity in video games, bring it...I say more nudity. Bonetown anyone? :)

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I don't care what people watch or read, it's their choice. But if I want to comment on something at least I check it first to see what is the issue they're talking about. That's the problem with some newspapers or tv stations- they hear the story second hand and they're ready to form a "this-is-the-only-absolute-true-truth" kind of opinion.

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Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.


Thumbs up for that.

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i find it funny for how some games, such as god of war, can have fully exposed breasts complete with nipples and bioware gets slammed for side-boob.

BE A REBEL BIOWARE, IM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY! as long as it's in artistic taste like dante's inferno and the game does not turn into a porno

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.


you win a cookie shinobi:lol:

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BE A REBEL BIOWARE, IM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY! as long as it's in artistic taste like dante's inferno and the game does not turn into a porno


But board users don't count. You can be sure the industry will always bow before some news campaign, because the sad truth is, they can seriously influence public opinion and sales.

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Nudidity or not, what gives PEGI Sates 18+, at least for Dragon age, that i played, and on the Back says Violence. What is more malignat see a woman or man in underwear, or to kill a man a see blood coming out, (on a game of course).
What do ppl care for more?? umh you go to the beach you see alot of women in topless nowadays.

I just hope Bioware keeps good work and not change the style of Dragon age games, is so rare to find good Sword games.

Modifié par TwXano, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:36 .


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abaris wrote...

BE A REBEL BIOWARE, IM BEHIND YOU ALL THE WAY! as long as it's in artistic taste like dante's inferno and the game does not turn into a porno


But board users don't count. You can be sure the industry will always bow before some news campaign, because the sad truth is, they can seriously influence public opinion and sales.


but if no one makes a stand then who will?

video games are art and should be respected as such. you dont see ridicule and attacks news companies make on paintings and statues do you. why should it be any different for videogames, especially if there is a proper ESRB rating on it?

if a news company trash talks bioware for an artistic choice then we can do something about it. either going from bringing the news to court for slander and infringing on bioware's right to freedom of speech. if not then we can get a petition for the news studio to make a formal apology.

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No to nudity, for decency's sake!!!


...ok, maybe just a little bit of Jack and Miranda...

...togheter...

...in the shower...

<3:O<3

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Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


So if I happened to like that scene where Shepard and Liara shared the bed, it cannot be because it was tastefully done and  made them more life like? Instead it is that I'm sad wanker who plays ME because I can't browse for porn?

I advice you to be careful if you happen one day pick up a book about for example WW2. In surprisingly many of those books it's made clear that those soldiers have life and loves on home front (or someone at least on friendly harbour).
Some books from Brian Callison and Douglas Reeman at least from the top of my head.


About Fox news. In my opinion what happened presented very well the nature of some authors like Cooper and Fox news. They are opportunists who seek to rise up controversy and cash with it (book sales, ratings).
IMO the message they were trying to send was "Innocent kids are in danger because PC or console game that is sold among other titles contains sexual material, but we are here to make you aware of that danger."

Lots of people seem to speculate this controversy caused sex scenes in ME2 being directed in way where they turned into clothed people dry humping against each others?

So that video game characters have sex isn't a problem but if they are partially or totally naked, then there is a problem?

Now, ME is M rated game so small kids should not play it anyway. Then according to studies that I have read the reason why sexual content can be harmful for children is that they do not have way to know difference between aggression and sexual situations. Exposing children to pornographic material is a criminal offense in most countries for a reason.
Then nudity by itself well, no or practically every people in countries where there is a sauna culture would be insane.

I'm not saying that things like infamous "Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction" are good things but if someone is having mental problems now because wardrobe malfunction or because seeing someone running naked on a soccer or rugby field it's likely that there are other issues as well.

I get funny feeling when I try to figure out why American media doesn't seem to be very good managing subjects like nudity in media in meaningful manner. Or maybe fighting against nudity is just a good business.

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shinobi602 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.

Yes, it sounds dumm, because you comment is dumm. Why your commen was dumm? Because I did not say have sex or be nude in real life. I sayed, that you get nudity outside of games in other ways with computers. How ever, if I want war with computer, I think games is still my best bet. When using just computer.

Point is that hole Mass Effect story is about war in galaxy. It's not about sexual situation. Sure, it does have romance in minor side situations.  Why to hell would game need nudity to anything? I mean what's the purpose of nudity in game?

Nudity has only one purpose and I don't think that's purpose of Mass Effect game, is it?

Modifié par Lumikki, 15 janvier 2011 - 01:01 .


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Phaedon wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...
I agree, however my point is whether we ignore them or not, Bioware/EA did not, evidenced by the taming down of DAO and ME2's romance scenes.  My point in making this thread isn't to say Fox News was right or should be paid attention to, but to hopefully let Bioware know that we all think Fox News is stupid and that they should not listen to them about this like they have in the past.

I don't know, the Miranda sex scene wasn't as 'light/mild/tame etc' as the ME1 romances.


Well, it had the sensuality, but it was far shorter and granted, the black lacy bra was far sexier than DAO's underclothes, but it was still not the same as ME1 was.

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Lumikki wrote...

Yes, it sounds dumm, because you comment is dumm.

Point is that hole Mass Effect story is about war in galaxy. It's not about sexual situation. Sure, it does have romance in ninor side situations, but what romance has to do with nudity. Why to hell would game need nudity to anything? I mean what's the purpose of nudity in game?

Nudity has only one purpose and I don't think that's purpose of Mass Effect game, is it?


No one said it's the sole purpose of the game. It's optional. You don't have to partake in it. I don't think anyone in this thread, or on this entire forum ever even implied Mass Effect is all about nudity or romance.

It's a nice side story that brings the characters closer to reality for a player who engrosses him/herself in the story and characters. It brings a different side to them instead of just blowing things up constantly and killing people. Mass Effect is not at all just about romance or nudity, the same way it is not all about war and fighting. You're gravely mistaken if think that's all the game is about.

Modifié par shinobi602, 15 janvier 2011 - 12:56 .


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Lumikki wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.

Yes, it sounds dumm, because you comment is dumm.

Point is that hole Mass Effect story is about war in galaxy. It's not about sexual situation. Sure, it does have romance in minor side situations, but what romance has to do with nudity.  Why to hell would game need nudity to anything? I mean what's the purpose of nudity in game?

Nudity has only one purpose and I don't think that's purpose of Mass Effect game, is it?




In your small narrow minded world maybe, but nudity is normal and natural. It's not instantly porn, if there's nudity.
I don't need more bare skin than the game already has, but I don't have anything against it either.

Go play a CoD or something, if you think nudity is so wrong and blowing living things into bits and pieces, is right. :pinched:

Please, go away.

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The Rumble Fish wrote...









...ok, maybe just a little bit of Jack and Miranda...



...togheter...



...in the shower...




This is why we can't have nice things

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I would rather have it go back to the way it was in ME1, The whole underwear thing in ME2 was stupid and didn't look right. Oh BTW Nudity does not equal pornography.

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Melrache wrote...

In your small narrow minded world maybe, but nudity is normal and natural. It's not instantly porn, if there's nudity.
I don't need more bare skin than the game already has, but I don't have anything against it either.

Go play a CoD or something, if you think nudity is so wrong and blowing living things into bits and pieces, is right. :pinched:

Please, go away.

I never sayed anything like nudity been wrong in anyway. I sayed Mass Effect GAME doesn't need it. You get the difference.

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Lumikki wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...

I vote no to nudity. Mostly because there is absolute ZERO reason for it, in Mass Effect WAR story. You want porn, browse internet, it's full of it.


Dumbest logic I've ever read. Do you know just how many things in media and, well, everything, are not necessary? You want war, join the army, it's full of it.

See how dumb that sounds.

Yes, it sounds dumm, because you comment is dumm. Why your commen was dumm? Because I did not say have sex or be nude in real life. I sayed, that you get nudity outside of games in other ways. How ever, if I want war with computer, I think games is still my best bet. When using just computer.

Point is that hole Mass Effect story is about war in galaxy. It's not about sexual situation. Sure, it does have romance in minor side situations.  Why to hell would game need nudity to anything? I mean what's the purpose of nudity in game?

Nudity has only one purpose and I don't think that's purpose of Mass Effect game, is it?




Romance is a part of life. It makes the characters more realistic.   How many soldiers do you think don't sleep with their wife or girlfriend before they go off to war? Sure, some might not... but most do, and that's the reason such scenes do have their place in Mass Effect.

What, by the way is dumm? I'm not sure I know this word.

Modifié par AbsolutGrndZer0, 15 janvier 2011 - 01:03 .


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MysticMage44 wrote...

I would rather have it go back to the way it was in ME1, The whole underwear thing in ME2 was stupid and didn't look right. Oh BTW Nudity does not equal pornography.


Yeah, though many people think so.  I actually had a talk with a Playboy Playmate once, she was highly offended when I said that many people see Playboy as pornography, she wasn't understanding that I agreed with her that it was not, I was only saying that many of the people fighting against pornography throw Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler all the same bonfire.

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Lumikki wrote...

Melrache wrote...

In your small narrow minded world maybe, but nudity is normal and natural. It's not instantly porn, if there's nudity.
I don't need more bare skin than the game already has, but I don't have anything against it either.

Go play a CoD or something, if you think nudity is so wrong and blowing living things into bits and pieces, is right. :pinched:

Please, go away.

I never sayed anything like nudity been wrong in anyway. I sayed Mass Effect GAME doesn't need it. You get the difference.


are you one of those poeple who giggle when the hear the word penis? ME is an adult game with adult situations. if you dont like it, thats no ones problem but your own. as a matter of fact, he only way you can see the sex scene, is by your own doing. so congrats, its your own fault.