Soooo...
I was browsing around the internet and I ran across the report. I was so stunned by the report, I had to buy the game and play it for myself.
I guess I can thank FoxNews for getting me hooked on the best game ever, but I will not bother. Instead, I will thank Bioware for making some of the most amazing and immersive games out there.
Bioware should have looked at it as free publicity and kept doing what they were doing.
My two cents..
Mass Effect Nudity Controversy 2 Years Later?
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#127
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:03
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Alexander Kogan wrote...
Even God of War, a series that is steeped in blood, gore, sex and nudity has yet to get any flak from the news media.
God of war gets out of it because of the source material. Some of the greek myths were almost that bad. I mean everything in it would have fitted in greek myth or a Norwegian heavy metal group.
Nothing that new...
#128
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:22
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Dust_King wrote...
Alexander Kogan wrote...
Even God of War, a series that is steeped in blood, gore, sex and nudity has yet to get any flak from the news media.
God of war gets out of it because of the source material. Some of the greek myths were almost that bad. I mean everything in it would have fitted in greek myth or a Norwegian heavy metal group.
Nothing that new...
Source material is not my concern, my main argument is that many of the idiots out there don't give any flak to games like Mortal Kombat and God of War anymore, yet they pick on games that are much more tame by comparison. Also, God of War may be based off of mythology that goes back thousands of years, but the game was made in this modern day along with other games that are far from its level of graphic presentation.
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#129
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:27
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have Fox News actually apologised? What they did was defamation/libel and i am pretty sure you can get sued for it. although it probably worked in reverse and the "controversy" helped sales if Bioware could prove that it had a negative impact on sales i think Fox could get in a lot of trouble.
At least the lady apologised even if that was only because she getting her book destroyed on Amazon.
At least the lady apologised even if that was only because she getting her book destroyed on Amazon.
#130
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:30
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Since when has Fox News EVER apologized for their campaigns of misinformation?
#131
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:32
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It's amazing that history repeats itself. Fox News is a pretty easy target.. but this is reminiscent of extremist Christians smashing off the genitals of Roman statues during the fall of Rome. This fear of the human form is repulsive, and always has been.
It's not even about children seeing these scenes. The game is rated M. Whether the game gets distributed to people of that age is not Bioware's responsibility, nor is it the end of the universe if a 14 year old sees a penis, boob or vagina.
If you are so bent on making video games look bad, then point the finger at Best Buy and the like not screening children appropriately for M rated games. But if you actually want to put your air time to use , FOX, complain about the lack of screening of children who buy alcohol, and then crash and kill families in motor vehicle accidents. There is nothing wrong with nudity or sexuality, never has been.
It's not even about children seeing these scenes. The game is rated M. Whether the game gets distributed to people of that age is not Bioware's responsibility, nor is it the end of the universe if a 14 year old sees a penis, boob or vagina.
If you are so bent on making video games look bad, then point the finger at Best Buy and the like not screening children appropriately for M rated games. But if you actually want to put your air time to use , FOX, complain about the lack of screening of children who buy alcohol, and then crash and kill families in motor vehicle accidents. There is nothing wrong with nudity or sexuality, never has been.
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#132
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:46
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Nothing Fox News says should be taken seriously. If it were allowed here, I would call them the worst intelligence insulting names in the book.
#133
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:48
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True enough Gleym. Someone has to sue their asses back to the stone age, its where they belong.
#134
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:50
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It's sad that Fox News seems to had an effect on the sex scenes in newer games... though i suspect the controversy they generate only boosts sales if anything... and Bioware are cowards for going along with them.
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Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:07
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On the topic of the romances, I liked both ME1's and ME2's because they both captured the emotions of Shephard and their loved one.
It is pretty much unanimously decided that ME1's was berated in a childish, unintellectual, and uninformed manner. When Jack Thompson calls you out for having a baseless argument then you might as well just shut up and turn the camera and mic off.
Fox News....What do you expect from people who have the collective IQ of a catfish?
It is pretty much unanimously decided that ME1's was berated in a childish, unintellectual, and uninformed manner. When Jack Thompson calls you out for having a baseless argument then you might as well just shut up and turn the camera and mic off.
Fox News....What do you expect from people who have the collective IQ of a catfish?
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Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:14
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Gleym wrote...
Christianity, pretty much. No, not trying to incite a religious debate, it's just general fact that Christianity imposed a ridiculous amount of uptightness (and overall silliness in terms of perception of the world and common sense) into the human race that's been passed down and passed off as being 'morally correct' throughout the generations.
wait, I know this forum is not about religious debate, but I'd say Catholicism and Puritanism, more than Christianity.....I read the whole Bible (unlike many devoted catholics here in Italy) and I can assure you that there's nothing written against sex or nudity, as long as there's love. There are statements against prostitution and promiscuity, but not against sex, that is one of the many gifts of God
#137
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:15
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Bioware isn't swayed in any way by Fox news. They are swayed by economics, if anything.
Adding nudity may reduce sales. That's the way I see it.
Adding nudity may reduce sales. That's the way I see it.
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#138
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:18
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It seems completely random (and always stupid) what video game things the media gets worked up about. RDR has a scene of a naked woman spread eagle on the bed, being jackhammered by a guy. RDR is WAY more mainstream, and it's scenes WAY more graphic, yet people get worked up over Mass Effect? @_@
#139
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:36
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I think most of the workup was it was female Sheaprd with Liara that got them riled. It all worked out Fox news got higher ratings and BW sold more Mass effect units. Sometimes I think these are PR schemes in disguise.
#140
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 08:04
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I don't personally think Cooper's apology means anything. She didn't do her research, she just spoke in outrage over a overzealous opinion she heard from some other source. As a reporter of her SUPPOSED caliber, she should have done her research before she opened her mouth. The fact that she didn't shows us her real caliber and why she's with Fox News and not a more reputable news source.
#141
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 08:45
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slimgrin wrote...
Bioware isn't swayed in any way by Fox news. They are swayed by economics, if anything.
Adding nudity may reduce sales. That's the way I see it.
It's an M rating either way... The only reason it'd matter if there are parents out there who buy their not "M" children M games unless there's nudity in it. If so, way to half-ass it parents of the world.
#142
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 10:04
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Geoff: Cooper have you ever played Mass Effect?
Cooper (nervously laughing): nohoo...
Geoff: Right... then STFU!
You can see he wanted to say that, but just changes his mind in time
Watched the "debate" for the first time a few week ago and it was ridiculous. An "expert" who hasn't even played the game, a debate leader (blond bimbo) who is clearly biased and an actual person who played the game gets shut off when he's telling them the truth. And really why mass effect? There are games out there which have much worse sex scenes in it, sometimes you even have to press the buttons to bone a chick. Plus you can also play as a woman and sleep with Kaiden, but that appearantly is ok, as long as you're not a male you won't see the other gender as lust objects...
Cooper (nervously laughing): nohoo...
Geoff: Right... then STFU!
You can see he wanted to say that, but just changes his mind in time
Watched the "debate" for the first time a few week ago and it was ridiculous. An "expert" who hasn't even played the game, a debate leader (blond bimbo) who is clearly biased and an actual person who played the game gets shut off when he's telling them the truth. And really why mass effect? There are games out there which have much worse sex scenes in it, sometimes you even have to press the buttons to bone a chick. Plus you can also play as a woman and sleep with Kaiden, but that appearantly is ok, as long as you're not a male you won't see the other gender as lust objects...
#143
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 10:23
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Wow is ther pr0n on ME? Wow, just WOW! I have had the game about one year, and still have it. Haven't though ever even installed it to my comp, but today most certainly will!
#144
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 12:02
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Haha, Fox News even whined about the Netherlands. How we are a crime fuelled people with such an easy mind about sex and drugs. Calling us naive and all ^^;.
Anyway, here's a youtube video about some guy's response to these retarded Fox News folks:
And here is Fox News Retarded response on that xD:
You can almost see Fox News as some entertainment show. Lets see what kind of retards they make of themselves this time.
Anyway, here's a youtube video about some guy's response to these retarded Fox News folks:
And here is Fox News Retarded response on that xD:
You can almost see Fox News as some entertainment show. Lets see what kind of retards they make of themselves this time.
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Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 02:14
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Shiroukai wrote...
Haha, Fox News even whined about the Netherlands. How we are a crime fuelled people with such an easy mind about sex and drugs. Calling us naive and all ^^;.
Anyway, here's a youtube video about some guy's response to these retarded Fox News folks:
And here is Fox News Retarded response on that xD:
You can almost see Fox News as some entertainment show. Lets see what kind of retards they make of themselves this time.
I have been two times in Amsterdam, that is I have spent two weeks of my life in Amsterdam. After watching the Fox News Youtube I became scared in real about the possibility of Fox News people ruling the world.
You really managed to scare me, and that is very very rare for me.
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Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 02:22
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Shiroukai wrote...
Haha, Fox News even whined about the Netherlands. How we are a crime fuelled people with such an easy mind about sex and drugs. Calling us naive and all ^^;.
Anyway, here's a youtube video about some guy's response to these retarded Fox News folks:
And here is Fox News Retarded response on that xD:
You can almost see Fox News as some entertainment show. Lets see what kind of retards they make of themselves this time.
Ah yes, that was retarded and scary. I'd strongly advice a fellow countryman not to watch it though, indoctrination is very real and not limited to Reapers
Just take comfort in the fact it won't last, they will either slowly evolve socially or just be nuked away by China and Russia.
#147
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 02:22
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It's funny how the US can get its own people scared to death about terrorists from another country, when they have terrorists like Fox News promoting misinformation, hatred of other nations, segregative ideals and just general fearmongering on a daily basis, on nationwide television.
#148
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 02:29
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Fox News is a joke. I like to think of it as Inside Edition or ET on Fox. It's more like a adult rumor and scandal show than an actual news source.
Instead of going after the sims 3 for a mod that turns all characters completely naked, they go after ME or miranda taking off her shirt to reveal a bra for a love scene. Even MGS 4 had a scene near the beginning when solid snake accidentally smacks the male part off a greek sculpture while he was posing next to it to camo himself. Or Uncharted 2 had that kinda awkward love scene where Chloe and Nate had sex.
Instead of going after the sims 3 for a mod that turns all characters completely naked, they go after ME or miranda taking off her shirt to reveal a bra for a love scene. Even MGS 4 had a scene near the beginning when solid snake accidentally smacks the male part off a greek sculpture while he was posing next to it to camo himself. Or Uncharted 2 had that kinda awkward love scene where Chloe and Nate had sex.
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#149
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:53
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mackjr1234 wrote...
Fox News is a joke. I like to think of it as Inside Edition or ET on Fox. It's more like a adult rumor and scandal show than an actual news source.
It is parody. I still find it amazing how it can be real. But what is scary is that many people take Fox News seriously and see the world as Fox News present it. What is even more scary is that those people have right to vote.
#150
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:17
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Actually I don't think anybody really went after Mass Effect 2, or any games with nudity recently. I think Fox News realizes that they look like freaking [insert expletive implying low intelligence here] after they always do something with videogames. Have you ever seen the CoD6 Modern Warfare 2 or Medal of Honor reports? tbh I think any one of us could have done better than whatever representative Fox News gets.
