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#151
TevinterMagister

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My Spacer/Ruthless shep saved them to "preserve and protect galactic stability at any cost", killed the Rachni queen for the same reason. Just doing his job as a Spectre.

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To face a galactic-scale threat, I figured I needed galactic-scale support. I made sense to use the already existing political structure rather than waste time and energy trying to impose another (i.e. human-dominated council).

Even my renegade Sheps figure that Humanity can strive for human dominance AFTER the galaxy is saved. So I save the Council every time. The Turian Councillor is a clearly a fool who'll get his just deserts in ME3 anyway...

#153
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To try and stay in good terms with the other races.

#154
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 1. Makes humans look like saviors. Letting them get killed makes humans look incompetent or uncaring. Not a good way to get people on your side.
2. Going in to save the council's ship means killing more geth. 
3. You take down soverigin either way. It's not like saving them will let him escape or win. A few more dead people is worth the price of saving the council and destroying the reaper.

#155
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Shepard 1 (idealist soldier) saved them because it was the military's duty to protect civilians
Shepard 2 (ruthless cop) abandoned them to deal with the more import threat of Sovereign.
Shepard 3 (highly-strung xenophobe) abandoned them because they are just alien freaks and not worth risking good human lives
Shepard 4 (rogue-ish womaniser) saved them because some pretty Asari may be grateful
Shepard 5 (nihilistic headcase) saved them because she wanted a big space battle between the Aliance and Geth as a pretty fireworks show

Modifié par Get Magna Carter, 29 avril 2011 - 09:04 .


#156
chameleon878

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I let the council die because they never listened to me even with all I'd been through. I figured that they would serve the galaxy best through involuntarily sacrificing themselves to save the citadel :). Also, I nominated Anderson because Udina was also a dick to me, just like the council.

#157
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I saved the council because it's what I would do. Paragon Shepard is the best story anyway. The galaxy needs government stability even if the Council refuses to listen, they won't have any choice to listen in Mass Effect 3, and then my Shepard can say, "I told you so." And it will be glorious.

#158
Valo_Soren

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As far as Renegade Shepard goes, I let them die because I believe in human supremacy and the fact that we should be running the galaxy, and we don't need aliens telling us how to do things when we've always been a race to figure things out on our own and show that humans get things done.

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Abispa

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I saved them so I could put'em in the fridge and eat them later.

Modifié par Abispa, 17 mai 2011 - 08:29 .


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Aimi

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I was never clear as to how not saving the Destiny Ascension made any sense from a purely military standpoint. Was the idea to wait until the geth had destroyed the Ascension at the presumed cost of several geth ships, and then to strike while the geth were weakened? If so, doesn't that violate the classic dictum of march (or fly) separated, but fight concentrated? Synergistic application of the resources at hand would be more effective, right?

So if the point was to decapitate the Council from a political standpoint, I never got that either, because it had been frequently impressed on me through the course of the game that humanity simply didn't have the kind of resources, economic or military, to compete with the turians in a stand-up fight. Dictating terms to them made no sense at all, especially when it was based on temporary weakness.

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Zemious

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I killed those stupid bastards. They deserved nothing less.

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MarchWaltz

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I didn't care about the council. I helped out our allies; the asari and turians.

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Well, mostly, it's because I'm a better person then they are.

Just because they turned on me faster then a whip snake when you step on it's tail doesn't mean they deserve to die.

Mind you, I did tell them where they could cram their offer to reinstate me as a Spectre in Mass Effect 2, so we don't have a good working relationship.

#164
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I prefer to save the council after playing Mass Effect 2. Having a Human Council in Mass Effect 2 really gets you nowhere. Plus the conversation with the Council in ME2 is awesome. I love the Turian Council Member because he gives me a good laugh.

#165
DDK

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Mainly so that I can continue to disconnect from them.

That and it was the right decision, ethically speaking.

#166
H4nniba11

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^ This

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maxernst

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Malisin wrote...

Mainly so that I can continue to disconnect from them.

That and it was the right decision, ethically speaking.


It's only the ethical decision because you metagame.  What if the losses you suffer in saving the council prevent you from defeating Sovereign?

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Wulfram

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maxernst wrote...

It's only the ethical decision because you metagame.  What if the losses you suffer in saving the council prevent you from defeating Sovereign?


What if the Geth ships which you failed to destroy prevent you from defeating Sovereign?

#169
Ghost Warrior

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Three reasons:
1. I thought Destiny Ascension will be useful against Sovereign
2. I thought the Council will be on my side in ME3 (long shot,I know)
3. Turian Councilor is fun

#170
Hordriss

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I saved them because it just seemed the right thing to do.

#171
Hordriss

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I saved them because it just seemed the right thing to do.

#172
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Basically, I wanted to prove the galaxy wrong. Before Shepard became a Spectre, the general outlook on humanity was that we were a tenacious, short-lived race focused on the advancement of our own goals and willing to step on the toes of other races to reach the top. The Council (or at least 1/3 of it) feared this tenacity and tried to hamper our potential by treating us like second-class citizens. Shepard proved to the Council that humans could get the job done and was granted Spectre status. By saving the Council at the cost of human lives, Shepard proved that humans are not only tenacious, but can be noble, humble, and willing to contribute to the galactic community as a whole, even if it does mean having to share power. I like the environment this creates, especially in the second game. It's more... harmonious.

...unless you are a Renegade, of course...

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Very simply, that holding the fleet back isn't the tactically sound "tough choice" the game makes it out to be.

Your Shepard was a decently high-ranking naval officer (the XO of a frigate), who should have some knowledge of the force composition of the human fleet about to swoop in. The second the Destiny Ascension radioed for help, he/she should have asked about enemy force composition, and known that the human fleet would have cut through the geth fleet like x-wings through a death star.

Even assuming that to not be the case, holding the human fleet back does very little - they would have had to wait until the Citadel's arms opened anyway, so it's better to at least mass all your forces and take out the portion of the enemy fleet that comprises the geth ships, then combine everyone's efforts on Sovereign, than it is to let the Citadel and geth fight it out first and hope the geth lose. That's just basic principles of shock and mass. Any losses you incur from fighting the geth first get made up by the Citadel ships that survive the battle.

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Serpenttt92

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Humans can't control the galaxy.

Modifié par Serpenttt92, 01 juin 2011 - 07:12 .


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Aimi

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tjzsf wrote...

Very simply, that holding the fleet back isn't the tactically sound "tough choice" the game makes it out to be.

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Even assuming that to not be the case, holding the human fleet back does very little - they would have had to wait until the Citadel's arms opened anyway, so it's better to at least mass all your forces and take out the portion of the enemy fleet that comprises the geth ships, then combine everyone's efforts on Sovereign, than it is to let the Citadel and geth fight it out first and hope the geth lose. That's just basic principles of shock and mass. Any losses you incur from fighting the geth first get made up by the Citadel ships that survive the battle.

THANK you.  Somebody else has a grasp of basic military theory.