150 réponses à ce sujet

[Eddo36]

Eduadinho wrote...

Just like a footballer can be the best by training themselves or a guitarist. Having rules and regulations might be damaging. And remember here is the list they seem pretty professional to me.

Spoilers Follow

Jacob and Miranda: Ceberus operatives, Jacob with Alliance training, Miranda breed to be perfect
Mordin: Former STG and brilliant scientist as seen with work on genophage
Garrus: Ex C-sec officer has already helped Shepard take down Saren. Held the Blue suns, Eclipse and blood pack at bay by himself
Thane: Trained assassin enough said
Jack: Freak of nature and science
Grunt: Breed to be the perfect Krogan
Legion: Special Geth unit made to be better than other units
Samara: Asari Justicar the best of the best. Morinth equals her mother in strength
Tali: proved herself against Saren
Zaeed: Founded the Blue Suns and have you listened to his stories
Kasumi: Don't actually know but I am sure she is good as well

So some of them come from good organizations, but nothing says they're the best of their respective organizations. Or that their organizations have better people than Alliance/Cerberus at what they do.

[Eddo36]

I'm just saying outsiders aren't really needed.

[Eddo36]

So the joint operations is more symbolic than practical.

[james1976]

Eduadinho wrote...
Kasumi: Don't actually know but I am sure she is good as well

Kasumi is an infamous intergalatic thief that few have ever met or seen face to face.  Makes her an expert at evasion but I'd say there is more to her story that wasn't revealed in ME2.  I just have that feeling that there's more.

[Eduadinho]

But the whole idea is that they are the best. TIM did his research and found out that in their specific fields they are the best. If there were better people, aliens in other areas he would have got you to get them. Shepard is also required to work with TIM because nobody else can be bothered stopping the collectors so the character wouldn't be able to recruit a whole heap of alliance soldiers. And obviously TIM doesn't think all of his Ceberus operatives are the best so you have to get outside help.

[Eddo36]

That's only because they never die. They just come back with medi-gel.

[InvaderErl]

Keep in mind he's also talking about Mass Effect 1.

Eddo36 wrote...



Tali got her training from Migrant Fleet. Garrus from C-sec. I'm sure neither of those two organizations are up on par with Alliance/Cerberus in those skills. Liara wasn't even a flighter, just another biotic user. Wrex was another Battlemaster, dying breed but still a crapload out there. Nothing special about those 4. They weren't the "best", just some random chumps.

[Annihilator27]

Eddo36 wrote...

That's only because they never die. They just come back with medi-gel.

Anyone can, Even the humans. But thats just for gameplay reasons. Your logic is odd.

[InvaderErl]

He's clearly trolling.

[james1976]

Eddo36 wrote...

That's only because they never die. They just come back with medi-gel.

That's a game mechanic that is not truly reflected in the story as a reality.

[Destroy Raiden_]

We do need professionals but we need soldier, techs, and biotics what we got in two was
Jack - an escaped convict with biotics
Samara - a Justicar with biotics
Thane- Assassin infiltrator with biotics
Miranda- pencil pusher and biotic
Jacob - Soldier and biotic

Mordin - Doctor and tech
Tali - Soldier and tech
Garrus - infiltrator and tech
Kasumi - infiltrator and tech

Grunt - Soldier
Zeed - more or less soldier



And depending on your shep you can add +1 to any of the above areas so why in 1 when we worked so well with:

Wrex - soldier
Ashly - soldier
Kaiden - soldier and biotic
Garrus - Soldier and tech
Tali - tech

Did we need a horde of biotics, techs, and very little soldiers? In ME3 I’d love for them to have more recruits then can fit on the ship say we get 7 slots to fit on the ship yet we have 15 characters made up of ME, ME2, and new ME3 characters to literally hand pick ourselves.

Though ME2 claimed we could pick our squad really it was we could choose to leave and not get a squad member which isn’t exactly a choice a choice would be I get all but Jack but instead of getting Jack I get Mandy who is a soldier sense I as Commander feel I don’t need or want a convict and 5th biotic on my team Mandy is a soldier. That would’ve been hand picking my team.

And now with the resources of SB we can read up on via dossiers, see via film, and decide from that if we want character X on our squad. We can see should we bother to take the time to go to planet X and pick up chara X or would our team work better with chara C on planet C? And we as players can finally truly customize our squads if you want 7 biotics then you can do that but if you want a mix of all classes you can do that too.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 14 janvier 2011 - 08:11 .

[InvaderErl]

Verily.

[kane442]

no its not his logic .....he a troll....lets not feed

[Eddo36]

InvaderErl wrote...

He's clearly trolling.

No, it's a legit discussion.

[james1976]

michaelrsa wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

He's clearly trolling.

Look at his sig.

I just noticed that...

[Eduadinho]

Okay how about this TIM (on a side note who reckons his actual name will be... Tim) spent billions of credits bringing Shepard back to life and then gave you a list of people he knew would be able to help you out. This is what you seem to think... a tweet from the illusive man

"Lolz just spent billions of creds getting Shepard back to life to save galaxy but i am actually going to give him second rate team mates just to see what happens LOL.

Modifié par Eduadinho, 15 janvier 2011 - 04:56 .

[xlavaina]

OP I'm not sure I understand. The whole point in having Shepard build his team is in order to get the most dangerous, highly trained operatives in the galaxy. No one organization has that, and I will not falter in that point. Think about it:



Who is more tech savvy than Tali? Nobody. I can think of nobody.

Who is a better sniper than Garrus?

A better tank than Grunt (besides Wrex)?

A better assassin than Thane?

A better overall leader than the GENETICALLY ENGINEERED for said purpose Miranda?

A better ruthless, rape you with biotics warrior than Samara?



Admittedly some of the characters do kind of feel out of place, such as Jack (who is much too powerful in the cut scenes), and Kasumi (wtf a thief???), but overall, this was the gist of things. They wanted it to be an interracial (race being different races of aliens) effort.

[MACharlie1]

More "professional' squad mates would get boring VERY quickly. How many different dialog conversations can one make up for 15 human Cerberus/Alliance operatives? From a developer perspective, this discussion is not very legitimate. Who wants to create a boring bland game? A modern game needs to be rich and colorful.



If you want an in-universe perspective. Ok. It's not just the fact that they might be the best. While I do think Tali is the best tech in the galaxy - there might be some insanely savvy tech nerd on Earth who rivals her BUT...good luck convincing that nerd to get a shot gun and put himself in danger and not have any issues blowing a mercs head off. And if Tali isn't the best QUARIAN, she is the only one willing to work with Cerberus.

[marshalleck]

Speaking of professionalism, why is the commanding officer of the ship trying to **** his/her subordinates? I agree there needs to be more professionalism in Shepard's crew--eliminate romances from ME3.

[TheNexus]

Each character has his or her flaws (which makes them interesting) but you can't question their professionalism or skill. Simply put, they wouldn't be on the Normandy if they weren't the best of the best.



I mean just look at Mordin. He found a way to counter the collector swarms in, what, a week? Tell me that isn't genius.