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[oldgodbioware]

Okay so i romanced Ashley in Mass effect 1 and got back with her in Me2 but i also romanced Miranda so in Me3 when it comes down who to pick who should i choose,hmm wonder could i have a threesome???

[FOZ289]

No, and who would want to get back together with Ashley anyway?

[oldgodbioware]

No what? Ashley is hot!

[MassStorm]

How dare you have not romanced Liara in ME1!!!!!!! xD Just joking.....BTW i would say Miranda since Ahley was very b-i-t-c-h-y with Shep in ME2....and Miranda is far away physical better than Ashley IMO

Modifié par MassStorm, 15 janvier 2011 - 05:01 .

[ZachForrest]

Hot maybe. But quit it with the poems. Jesus woman!

[oldgodbioware]

hmm here i was hoping for a threesome, how i would love for me liara. ash miranda kelley samara doc chawkas and gavorn all in the same beed.

[Layzr]

i hate ashley/kaiden, i hope that we can kill the remaining one in me3,

miranda ftw

[Black-Xero]

Miranda.

[james1976]

Here's the thing. You may not get either of them. One of the load screen messages said decisions you make in Mass Effect 2 could have dire consquences in Mass Effect 3. Perhaps of one those is the relationships falling apart because you cheated.

[Ghost Warrior]

I'd choose Miri becuse she trusts Shep more.In the end of ME2,she'll quit Cerberus and prove her loyalty to you.On the other hand,when you meet Ash on Horizon she turns her back on you.Also,Miri has that hot Australian accent(big plus) and she is not as annoying with poetry and religion.

[Nissa_Red]

If it needs to be any of the two, Ashley.



Definitely.



PS : I fail to see how one could conceivably romance someone as headache/facepalm inducing as Miranda, but to each their own I guess.

[MajesticJazz]

I like Ashley more because she is more realistic. Miranda is just your stereotypical overly sexualized female that we get way too many times in videogames these days.

[Funkcase]

Layzr wrote...

i hate ashley/kaiden, i hope that we can kill the remaining one in me3,
miranda ftw

You dont ''kill'' any of them, they sacrifce themselves. You must live a sad existence if you wish a character dead becuase you dont like them, do you have a list of people who wronged you or something in real life? And you plan ways you're gonna kill them in your parents basment?


Anyway, OP, it's your choice. If you like both, you can always do two saves.

[FOZ289]

oldgodbioware wrote...

No what? Ashley is hot!

I've never understood how every single girl in video games gets declared "hot," because Ashley isn't.

She wears standard military clothes, her hair is always pulled back, she's jealous, rude, and a space racist.  All she does is talk about how tough her family is, and then quote poetry.  I don't see anything appealing at all here.

[Funkcase]

FOZ289 wrote...

oldgodbioware wrote...

No what? Ashley is hot!

I've never understood how every single girl in video games gets declared "hot," because Ashley isn't.

She wears standard military clothes, her hair is always pulled back, she's jealous, rude, and a space racist.  All she does is talk about how tough her family is, and then quote poetry.  I don't see anything appealing at all here.

She wears uniform, yet she still looks great (she will look amazing out of uniform) she values family, and some people find a girl who can quote poetry attractive, it show's inteligence. Yeah she gets jealous, most people do, even Miranda does of Shep! I dont see how she is rude. Btw, she aint racist, her writer even confirmed it so...

Modifié par Funkcase, 15 janvier 2011 - 06:26 .

[FOZ289]

How does a writer "confirm" it when the actual game contradicts it? Just her attitude towards Wrex, and shooting him like 4 ****ing times, her ****iness towards Liara, and generally whining about and blaming aliens as often as possible. Sounds rather "racist" to me. Exchange Krogan, Asari, or Turian with any race on Earth, then put that into Ash's dialogue, and you'll get some very racist-sounding dialogue, I don't care if the writer tries to deny it. Only it's not just a race, it's an entire SPECIES Ashley condemns.



She's just a completely average person with a terrible attitude and a dull personality to me.

[Blue Suns Mercenary]

ashley is a terrible character, and i never once romanced her in me1. i tried, i really did. but when she started speciesist talk and religious talk, i was done with that head case.



i could care less if she didn't show up in me3, or if she died.

[Funkcase]

FOZ289 wrote...

How does a writer "confirm" it when the actual game contradicts it? Just her attitude towards Wrex, and shooting him like 4 ****ing times, her ****iness towards Liara, and generally whining about and blaming aliens as often as possible. Sounds rather "racist" to me. Exchange Krogan, Asari, or Turian with any race on Earth, then put that into Ash's dialogue, and you'll get some very racist-sounding dialogue, I don't care if the writer tries to deny it. Only it's not just a race, it's an entire SPECIES Ashley condemns.

She's just a completely average person with a terrible attitude and a dull personality to me.

Disagreeing with Chris L'Etoile on how he wrote Ash is like saying Thane ain't got a illness

From Chris L'Etoile:

''I find it interesting that so many people have stereotyped her as "the racist." At a couple of points she blasts the Terra Firma party as being "bigots," and she openly admires the power of the Destiny Ascension in the Citadel approach cutscene - not quite what you'd expect from a xenophobe.

In her first conversation she spells out her thinking pretty explicitly (the bear and dog metaphor), and it's nothing more than a short paraphrase of the most memorable passage in Charles Pelligrino and George Zebrowski's novel "The Killing Star":

When we put our heads together and tried to list everything we could say with certainty about other civilizations, without having actually met them, all that we knew boiled down to three simple laws of alien behavior:

1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.
If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.


2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.
No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.


3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.

And it's hard to dispute this. At the least, you could say the krogan live by these rules. It's certainly a more suspicious and pessimistic point of view than most of us are comfortable with. But is it racism, or realism?

Anyway. I fully expected some people write her off as a bigot. What surprises me is that no one's pointed out that her position does have some sense. Evidently, I did something very wrong here.

To answer a question from... I don't know, tens of pages ago, if you romance her and have persuade, you can convince her to be a bit less extreme in her opinions''

There you have it.

She is fine with Wrex on missions, elevator talks and on the Normandy, there is just one conversation with Shepard when Wrex first comes aboard, the Normandy is a state of the art ship, thats natural for her to be suspicious. You know you can charm Wrex so she dosen't shoot him right? Or you can shoot Wrex yourself. Ash is just watching Shepard back, Wrex is a krogan warlord pointing a gun at her commanding officer, and Shepard cant carm him down, she was doing her job, she would be a crappy solder if she didn't shoot him and let Shepard get shot.

She is just jealous of Liara. Liara is a attractive women who has interests in Shepard, it's just jealousy, she does tell Shep he should check on her when her mother dies, showing she does care a bit about her.

[james1976]

I suppose if I had to choose between them, I'd choose Miranda. Didn't care much for Ashley.

[DigitalFallout]

Blue Suns Mercenary wrote...

ashley is a terrible character, and i never once romanced her in me1. i tried, i really did. but when she started speciesist talk and religious talk, i was done with that head case.

i could care less if she didn't show up in me3, or if she died.

Thats pretty selfish of you, even if you hate her there are plenty of people who do like her and want her in ME3. If you dont like her leave her behind on Virmire. I dislike some characters but I want them all in ME3 becuase they all have fans and it aint fair if one group of fans is left out.

[FOZ289]

I had to look up the scene, I would obviously never let Wrex die. The problem I have is the way the scene is done. Wrex FALLS OVER, and despite being a galactic community with access to FASTER THAN LIGHT TRAVEL, which is insane, they don't have any sort of efficient method of restraining people? Really? No, we gotta shoot Wrex 4 times, because killing people solves all of our problems. In all the time since the Krogan Rebellions, nobody ever developed a better way of stopping them other than ****ing killing them?  Ugh. Even if that's not completely relevant to Ashley.

That would only make Ashley inconsistent. When Shepard is tired from the mind-meld, what does Ashley say? THAT DAMNED ASARI. Not "that bastard," or "that ****." She uses asari in a derogatory sentence, emphasizing the race as if it's a factor here.
Even if you want to say she isn't "racist," she is biased because of her own experiences and emotion and not because of a purely logical standpoint as that post says. And how does the logic make it any better? That just turns her into a robot, calculating the most efficient way to gain power regardless of other species. I don't want to be cheesy, but wanting the best for your own people regardless of other groups does not excuse all of your flaws.

Modifié par FOZ289, 15 janvier 2011 - 06:51 .

[V-rex]

Erg, I am NOT getting involved in another one of these f*cking 'is Ashley racist' debates. I've said all I've ever needed to say on this topic a million times in a million different ways, and I know that I might as well be yelling at a brick wall for all the good it's doing.
For what it's worth, NO, Ashley is NOT RACIST.

Also, I would take Ashley over Miranda any day of the week/month/year. But still, that's just my choice. Pick whichever one you like more, it's your choice afterall, no one elses. Ashley is the one I pick but she's 'my' pick, not the 'right' pick.
This following sentance is going to sound cliche'd and terrible but still:

"Follow your heart."

EDIT: And sigh, I could not resist. The wall of text demanded to be set loose.

Modifié par V-rex, 15 janvier 2011 - 07:51 .

[mineralica]

1. Why it isn't in Character Discussion forum? Register your ME2 and post wherever it's more appropriate.

2. I don't think Ashley or Miranda are types that will agree on threesome. Or will accept Shepard if he had own fun with another woman... and I don't even want to imagine what would happen if it would be Jack who will hear about threesome. My theory - ME1 LI will just leave.

3. really, why not a multiple saves or chars?

[Shotokanguy]

FOZ289 wrote...

That would only make Ashley inconsistent. When Shepard is tired from the mind-meld, what does Ashley say? THAT DAMNED ASARI. Not "that bastard," or "that ****." She uses asari in a derogatory sentence, emphasizing the race as if it's a factor here.

Uh, it kind of is. Asari are the only ones who can mind meld.

[Shadow_82]

The choice is an obvious one....Ash!