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#401
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Kaiden? Good kid?



Goodness. Not impressed...at all.



Makes me glad I have a 360 instead of a PS3. (:

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Over sensitive people are... overly sensitive.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Over sensitive people are... overly sensitive.


Yes, because a terrible comic that screws up the world and characters from ME1 this bad is something that someone can't get angered with..................................

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Kabraxal wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Over sensitive people are... overly sensitive.


Yes, because a terrible comic that screws up the world and characters from ME1 this bad is something that someone can't get angered with..................................

I just think you may be taking it a bit too serious is all.

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Kabraxal wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Over sensitive people are... overly sensitive.


Yes, because a terrible comic that screws up the world and characters from ME1 this bad is something that someone can't get angered with..................................

If that's what this did, sure. But it really didn't.

It glossed over a lot of stuff, and with a lot of hit-or-miss gloss, but it's not a retcon of the events of ME1 and it most of what people call it retconning isn't even true.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...
It glossed over a lot of stuff, and with a lot of hit-or-miss gloss, but it's not a retcon of the events of ME1 and it most of what people call it retconning isn't even true.


So because I'm lazy and don't want to read all the previous pages of this thread, could somebody summarize what people are claiming got retconned?

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All I needed to know about Mass Effect 1 without everplaying it I learned from this video

I'm seriouse

Modifié par Assasin4Hire, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:23 .


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Yenaquai wrote...

"Energetic little quarian"? "Nice kid"? "Not as dumb as he looks"?


Gah...


I cringed so hard my eyes nearly imploded, lol...  Seriously, why was the dialogue so cheesy??  It's never that bad in the games... I take it other people write the dialogue in the games?

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Marta Rio wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
It glossed over a lot of stuff, and with a lot of hit-or-miss gloss, but it's not a retcon of the events of ME1 and it most of what people call it retconning isn't even true.


So because I'm lazy and don't want to read all the previous pages of this thread, could somebody summarize what people are claiming got retconned?


This.

The Smoking Man wrote...

Genesis Citadel twist explanation:
"...
But a few survived long enough to leave a parting gift: The Protheans
had discovered that the Citadel was the key to controlling the mass
relays. By sabotaging the Citadel, they found a way to close the relays
to dark space, slowing the Reapers' return..."

Proposed revision (draft):
"...
But a few survived long enough to leave a parting gift: The Protheans
had discovered that the Citadel was actually a mass relay to dark
space, where the Reapers were waiting. By sabotaging the Citadel, they
closed the relay to dark space, slowing the Reapers' return..."

I
just explained the Citadel twist properly while keeping my explanation
almost as brief. There's no reason why Mac Waters couldn't have done
the same. In fact, you could probably omit the "where the Reapers were
waiting" bit, which actually makes it even shorter than the Genesis
explanation.



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Assasin4Hire wrote...

All I needed to know about Mass Effect 1 without everplaying it I learned from this video

I'm seriouse


LOL @ 1:21

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Marta Rio wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
It glossed over a lot of stuff, and with a lot of hit-or-miss gloss, but it's not a retcon of the events of ME1 and it most of what people call it retconning isn't even true.


So because I'm lazy and don't want to read all the previous pages of this thread, could somebody summarize what people are claiming got retconned?

1)Kaiden's name.

2) A plural of Mass Relays to dark space, which while intriguing if not another typo, doesn't invalidate the principal to ME1 (that the Citadel controls the relays needed to return from Dark Space).

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Okay, having actually watched the comic videos, I have to say, if someone who'd never played Mass Effect started on ME2 with this comic as a background, then it does a serviceable job of laying the groundwork. Sure it has huge holes that those of us with our imitiate knowledge of ME1 might wall-bang at. But for first timers, it's adequate.

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Assasin4Hire wrote...

All I needed to know about Mass Effect 1 without everplaying it I learned from this video

I'm seriouse


Indeed O_o

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Dean_the_Young wrote...
1)Kaiden's name.

How odd. 

2) A plural of Mass Relays to dark space, which while intriguing if not another typo, doesn't invalidate the principal to ME1 (that the Citadel controls the relays needed to return from Dark Space).

I sure hope that the Citadel isn't the key to everything, again. 

Well, if those are the only retcon-related complaints, I guess it could be worse.

Modifié par Marta Rio, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:47 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

Yenaquai wrote...
"Energetic little quarian"? "Nice kid"? "Not as dumb as he looks"?
Gah...

I cringed so hard my eyes nearly imploded, lol...  Seriously, why was the dialogue so cheesy??  It's never that bad in the games... I take it other people write the dialogue in the games?

Having read the other ME comics, this is not really all that different.
Silly dialogue, ugly/rushed art, and awkward action scenes (compare Liara going kung-fu vs. Dual wielding diving Garrus).

Dean_the_Young wrote...
1)Kaiden's name.

His name as been misspelled before it's just a typo in my opinion.

Modifié par cachx, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:52 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

Assasin4Hire wrote...

All I needed to know about Mass Effect 1 without everplaying it I learned from this video

I'm seriouse


LOL @ 1:21

Wow, i wonder if they can patch the comic and replace it with that video. :P

Modifié par Vaenier, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:49 .


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I don't like the Geth and a couple other things not being mentioned but the story in ME1 is too massive to properly tell in a 15 minute interactive comic anyway. But I suppose it does its job in allowing PS3 players a little variety in their playthroughs. I also hate how oversexualized Liara was. Also does anyone know if only Mark Meer narated the comic or did Jennifer do it as well?

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I am so glad I have the 360 version. Especially since THIS is meant to be PS3 players introduction to the Mass Effect universe....

Modifié par Vanguard Of Destruction, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:54 .


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Hey I just got back from work..... what did I miss? :wizard:

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Marta Rio wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
1)Kaiden's name.

How odd. 

They still pronounce it the same way and everything, but apparently switching the a and the i are major retcons.

2) A plural of Mass Relays to dark space, which while intriguing if not another typo, doesn't invalidate the principal to ME1 (that the Citadel controls the relays needed to return from Dark Space).

I sure hope that the Citadel isn't the key to everything, again. 

Well, if those are the only retcon-related complaints, I guess it could be worse.

Especially in the sense that the Citadel Mass Relay could be the Citadel Mass Relays, and it would work exactly the same.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:00 .


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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Marta Rio wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
1)Kaiden's name.

How odd. 

They still pronounce it the same way and everything, but apparently switching the a and the i are major retcons.


Kaiden, Kiaden, Kaidan, Kiadan...

...Lt. Alenko.

Modifié par General User, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:09 .


#422
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Well, that was pretty terrible. I'm wondering how the Jennifer Hale version will sound and look. I don't really care though, I do like that I get to customize some choices. I'm bummed that some of the other choices, Save/Kill Shiala, Parasini and Anoleis, the Feros colony, etc., aren't included. I would rather have a checklist that I could fill out with all the flags in the save file, but oh well. I will sit through this piece of fail six times in order to create my PS3 Shepards (who will be "mirror universe" versions of my XBox 360 Shepards) and be done with it. I wasn't expecting much, thank goodness.

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cachx wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

Yenaquai wrote...
"Energetic little quarian"? "Nice kid"? "Not as dumb as he looks"?
Gah...

I cringed so hard my eyes nearly imploded, lol...  Seriously, why was the dialogue so cheesy??  It's never that bad in the games... I take it other people write the dialogue in the games?

Having read the other ME comics, this is not really all that different.
Silly dialogue, ugly/rushed art, and awkward action scenes (compare Liara going kung-fu vs. Dual wielding diving Garrus).

Dean_the_Young wrote...
1)Kaiden's name.

His name as been misspelled before it's just a typo in my opinion.



There's a mispelling of Kaidan's name at least once in ME1 (on 360). I think it's when the Normandy first comes to dock at the Citadel. 

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I'll be a really sad panda if they retcon ME3 into matching this...

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It's okay. He's a good kid and he'll be fine with it.