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Oh, god the retcons... I'm severely worried about Mass Effect 3 now.

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jlb524 wrote...

I think it would have been best to keep choices out of the comic and give the PS3 players the 'default' ME2 that new XBox/PC players got...i.e., no romance. The comic would still be needed to introduce the story, but it could have focused more on that instead of focusing on setting up this ridiculous 'romance confrontation' scene....which is a waste of a panel.

Seriously, how can you make any of the choices (romance, rachni, Wrex) without being properly informed? Most people are just going to randomly pick stuff.


The rachni... from the comic it almost sounds as if you set free an intelligent Alien Queen, and I think they said she had several soldiers available. Was it so hard to make a 1 minute summary of what actually happened there?

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Snuggels99 wrote...


I hope this is sarcasm :blink:



Look at the gamecover of Mass Effect and the E3 gameplay vids.Some people must be kidding.

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bjdbwea wrote...

It is unfortunately a fact that Ashley and Kaidan have no content to speak of in ME 2, and the content that is there is badly written. But let's not forget that the same was true for Liara until LotSB was released. And let's also not forget that her portrayal in this comic is quite bad too, just look at those pictures. The whole comic is terrible.

Who cares about what the game (allegedly) wants to force upon you? They also wanted you to cheat on your ME 1 LI in ME 2, they even said as much. My Shepard didn't, not even before LotSB was released. It's still your own decision. And you can still choose Ashley or Kaidan in the comic. The actual problem is still that there's no proper content in ME 2.

And if you're afraid that there will be no Ashley or Kaidan DLC if BioWare sees that many PS 3 gamers don't choose them, it's more than likely that the decision of whether such as DLC will be released or not has long been made.


The problem most people have is that for all the talk about how much more compelling the ME2 LIs are, BioWare never forced Shepard to sound more interested in one character than s/he is in another - with the exception of Jacob, of course, and look how that turned out - and that is what happened in this comic.

Another problem is that what little "proper" content Kaidan and Ash had in ME2 was cut further by BioWare with their removal of Ash and Kaidan in the opening scene and substitung them with Liara.

We can agree on the comic being terrible, though, yes.

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LiamN7 wrote...

So question for bioware.
Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?



Bioware?    Chris Priestly?     Ray Muzyka?     Anybody?

Modifié par AuggyDoggysan, 19 janvier 2011 - 09:30 .


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Pfft. BW devs know better than the come in here. We'd tear them apart ;)



We even managed to make Woo flee. XD

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Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft. BW devs know better than the come in here. We'd tear them apart ;)

We even managed to make Woo flee. XD


Nah. I am being respectful, not gonna threaten bioware. Besides bioware acts like Ash and Kaidan don't exist sometimes. So them having fans pissed at how they are treated must be impossible. : )  So no worries.
LiamN7 wrote...

So question for bioware.
Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?

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Well I don't care what Bioware says.

My Shepard did not cream his pants everytime he did the mindmeld.

Judging from his reaction in ME1 he hated it.

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GodWood wrote...

Well I don't care what Bioware says.
My Shepard did not cream his pants everytime he did the mindmeld.
Judging from his reaction in ME1 he hated it.


The above.

Why would an invastion of your privacy by someone you barely know be pleasurable? 

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LiamN7 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft. BW devs know better than the come in here. We'd tear them apart ;)

We even managed to make Woo flee. XD


Nah. I am being respectful, not gonna threaten bioware. Besides bioware acts like Ash and Kaidan don't exist sometimes. So them having fans pissed at how they are treated must be impossible. : )  So no worries.
LiamN7 wrote...

So question for bioware.
Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?



They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.

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TeenZombie wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...
So question for bioware.
Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?

They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.

Bioware: ...I ..I don't understand?
They're just boring humans!
You got a genetically perfect woman in ME2 along with heeps of hot alien booty!
wtf you want borin humans!?
You guys must be trolling Image IPB

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TeenZombie wrote...

LiamN7 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Pfft. BW devs know better than the come in here. We'd tear them apart ;)

We even managed to make Woo flee. XD


Nah. I am being respectful, not gonna threaten bioware. Besides bioware acts like Ash and Kaidan don't exist sometimes. So them having fans pissed at how they are treated must be impossible. : )  So no worries.
LiamN7 wrote...

So question for bioware.
Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?



They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.

Bioware does seem to act like we don't exist. But we do and I as an Ash fan am tired of this crap.

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TeenZombie wrote...

They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.


That's the impression I've gotten, too. Image IPB

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Chignon wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.


That's the impression I've gotten, too. Image IPB


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Modifié par Brodyaha, 19 janvier 2011 - 10:39 .


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Brodyaha wrote...

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Loved this.

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Chignon wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.


That's the impression I've gotten, too. Image IPB


Just because we're not as loud as everyone else doesn't mean we don't exist.

WTF BioWare? :(

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It's ironic that the artist was able to capture the different characters that are Ash and Kaidan better in one single picture than BioWare in a whole scene in Mass Effect 2 and now in their Genesis comic.

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I can't help but lol at that pic. Poor Kaidan looks all dejected while Ashley looks read to punch someone.

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Yep this picture is kinda how bioware treats Ash and Kaidan. Put them on the bottom shelf and off to the side. Even little cobwebs starting to form. Yeah, thanks for that bioware.

I quote me,

LiamN7 wrote...

So question for bioware.

Do you go out of your way to ****** off Ash and Kaidan fans or has it just become second nature after doing it for so long ?

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Brodyaha wrote...

Chignon wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

They honestly do not believe Kaidan and Ashley *have* fans.  That is the only explanation I can see for all of this.  They think that nobody cares about those old and busted characters, when they have the new hotness waiting for them in ME2, and Liara is included in that category as of LotSB.


That's the impression I've gotten, too. Image IPB


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This picture makes me laugh, and kinda depressed/pissed off at how unfair Boware are treating Ash, Kaidan and there fans.

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That picture is so funny... yet heart-breaking... and truthful. :crying:

Modifié par andysilv87, 19 janvier 2011 - 11:43 .


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Where can I buy those dolls? But more importantly, where Ash's doll doesn't have her wearing the phoenix armor?

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pprrff wrote...

Where can I buy those dolls? But more importantly, where Ash's doll doesn't have her wearing the phoenix armor?



She is still wearing her uniform, just not her combat uniform. That's her Alliance uniform for when she's on the Normandy.

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Having seen both versions now (and being unbelievably miffed that FemShep in particular calls Kaidan "a good kid"), something else now stands out for me. The comic presents the choice between Ashley/Kaidan and Liara in a similar manner to the confrontation you get when you try to pursue two LIs at the same time. My Shepard would never do that. She would always be honest with both parties. She has never been so cruel as to keep Liara hanging when she's chosen Kaidan. Thus, she has never gotten that confrontation. Yet every PS3 player now gets it - every PS3 Shepard strung along two LIs. Seriously, this is wrong.



As a minor point, the conference room in which that scene takes places is from the SR2, not the SR1. Art continuity fail...

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Estelindis wrote...

As a minor point, the conference room in which that scene takes places is from the SR2, not the SR1. Art continuity fail...

I been wondering where that table came from.