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[Matchy Pointy]

Jade Elf wrote...

Matchy Pointy wrote...

I actually find myself agreeing
with this, from what I've seen of the comic, it didn't really introduce
the romances in a good way.

Eh, the comic doesn't introduce anything in a good way, as far as I'm concerned.

For those that haven't seen it, check out the following thread which has the comic on YouTube(and also a more general discussion on the comic): social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/5736818

Edited for clarity

I agree, I found it to change quite a few things as well (though that imight be expected with putting the whole game into such a short time), this theme was about the romances though (I think), so I focused on that here.

[Jade Elf]

I've edited my original post again ^^. Just for info for any one who hasn't played ME1, the thread and the vids do contain ME1 spoilers.

Edit: Anyway, the comic doesn't actually force the choice at all, but it does do a terrible job at explaining things...

Modifié par Jade Elf, 16 janvier 2011 - 12:13 .

[MrObnoxiousUK]

As a left handed,one eyed,peg legged alcoholic with a leaning towards necrophilia, how dare they not portray my views.Grow up you childish bugger,the world doesnt owe you a favour just because you like men instead of women, any new comic would aim for the largest target demographic first and you damn well know that.

[Michel1986]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

War Houndoom wrote...

Once again we see another example of Bioware forcing romance on people, oh sure it gives you the right to choose not to, but it sure forces its heterosexual views on people who might have other opinions, actually this comic was a perfect way to include the homosexaul romance option. Looks like intel dropped the ball....again...

It would be nice if bioware listened to their fans for once, seeing as there is an almost 150 page thread on the subject of M/M romance.

The truth is that Bioware hates gay people, the Mass Effect design team originally planned to make Kaidan a M/M romance option but then the homophobic heads of Bioware forced them to cut it, just look at this,



So much work all gone to waste because of Bioware's gay hate. There is also an interview where someone from Bioware goes on about how he hates gay people and why they are against Shepard being gay but I cant be bothered finding it.

:sick: keep the ****** scenes out of the game !!!!!!!!! Also listen to 2:18 of the vid, it's a modded one :whistle: (Kaiden says ''it's a long time since i met a women'', while shepard in the video is a man!!!!)

Bioware never added such thing

Modifié par Michel1986, 16 janvier 2011 - 12:22 .

[RaduM]

War Houndoom wrote...

Once again we see another example of Bioware forcing romance on people, oh sure it gives you the right to choose not to, but it sure forces its heterosexual views on people who might have other opinions, actually this comic was a perfect way to include the homosexaul romance option. Looks like intel dropped the ball....again...

It would be nice if bioware listened to their fans for once, seeing as there is an almost 150 page thread on the subject of M/M romance.

Believe or not, the material stays true to Mass Effect 1. Why would they diverge from the Mass Effect 1 available romances if the comic is supposed to be a concise narration of Mass Effect 1?

Your complaint is simply assinine.

And btw, for somebody that despises the Mass Effect series, you sure do seem determined to experience the trilogy.

Here's a tip : you don't like a game, walk away and keep your money. Don't throw 2-year-old tantrums because ME1 doesn't feature the M/M weener fest you were preparing to ****-off to. I personally am not dying to see a Male Shepard/Male Love Interest pairing and am quite partial to good old fashion male/female pairing. Call me old fashioned. And go call your parents old fashioned too and complain to your mother that she's not a man as apparently that's what rocks your boat.

But leave the rest of us out of your inner 'sturm und drang'.

[Dominus]

Saren didn't get a cape

That's a damned shame - You could call him Saren the Baron. 8-) Back on the topic, welcome to Fight For the Love, Part 2.

[War Houndoom]

RaduM wrote...

War Houndoom wrote...

Once again we see another example of Bioware forcing romance on people, oh sure it gives you the right to choose not to, but it sure forces its heterosexual views on people who might have other opinions, actually this comic was a perfect way to include the homosexaul romance option. Looks like intel dropped the ball....again...

It would be nice if bioware listened to their fans for once, seeing as there is an almost 150 page thread on the subject of M/M romance.

Believe or not, the material stays true to Mass Effect 1. Why would they diverge from the Mass Effect 1 available romances if the comic is supposed to be a concise narration of Mass Effect 1?

Your complaint is simply assinine.

And btw, for somebody that despises the Mass Effect series, you sure do seem determined to experience the trilogy.

Here's a tip : you don't like a game, walk away and keep your money. Don't throw 2-year-old tantrums because ME1 doesn't feature the M/M weener fest you were preparing to ****-off to. I personally am not dying to see a Male Shepard/Male Love Interest pairing and am quite partial to good old fashion male/female pairing. Call me old fashioned. And go call your parents old fashioned too and complain to your mother that she's not a man as apparently that's what rocks your boat.

But leave the rest of us out of your inner 'sturm und drang'.

Believe it or not, You are Asinine (learn how to spell) and you seem like a homophobe.

Believe it or not, the comic is not a concise narration of Mass Effect since it skips a majority of the game.

Believe it or not, I don't despise the series, this thread was about how romance was unfairly forced upon you with no alternative options or didn't you read the thread.

Do not insult my reasoning and intelligence when you clearly have none. You lose, good day sir.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Dude, homosexuality is the absolute least of the many problems the Comic had. It's not even a bloody problem at all, in fact it is a further retcon. Allowing a ****** romance in the comic but not in the original game? That'd be "comic retcon" #46 by my count.

[War Houndoom]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Dude, homosexuality is the absolute least of the many problems the Comic had. It's not even a bloody problem at all, in fact it is a further retcon. Allowing a ****** romance in the comic but not in the original game? That'd be "comic retcon" #46 by my count.

This comic was Terrible at best. But they didn't have to force the romance on you, even if they excluded out M/M.

[Jade Elf]

You are given the choice not to romance either, you know.

[sinosleep]

Seriously? LOL.

[Burdokva]

War Houndoom wrote...

This comic was Terrible at best. But they didn't have to force the romance on you, even if they excluded out M/M.

Apparently having the option to have a relationship with the other sex is now forcing you to?

You're acting like a troll, honestly. 

[War Houndoom]

Jade Elf wrote...

You are given the choice not to romance either, you know.

And here is the response I gave to another who said this. 

The comic clearly depicts shepard as a heterosexaul horn dog drooling over the Asari, his reaction should have been neutral. Or be single was no real option because if you actaully played the game you would know to get at that point you would have had to be romancing both of them, which would clearly depict shepard being heterosexual, it should have been neutral. Therefore shepard would have been interested in them, and by saying the mission is too important just meant that the mission was too important...but when its over then we can talk.

[War Houndoom]

Burdokva wrote...

War Houndoom wrote...

This comic was Terrible at best. But they didn't have to force the romance on you, even if they excluded out M/M.

Apparently having the option to have a relationship with the other sex is now forcing you to?

You're acting like a troll, honestly. 

You should read the whole thread, play Mass Effect 1, watch the comic, then make the comment you just made because otherwise you don't know what you are talking about.

I love how people like to make comments on stuff they have no idea what they are talking about. I also love how I am a troll for speaking out against something, maybe you're Asinine?

Oh and if you knew a thing or two, you would know that not only did they force Romance in the original game, but they also did it in the sequel and now in the comic.

Modifié par War Houndoom, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:30 .

[RaduM]

They forced romance in Mass Effect 1 ??

Are you on drugs or deliberately making false statements to raise the ire of the community? Either that,or you are a particularly dim person.

Whichever the case, it would be best if you graced us with your presence and your posts no more.

P.S. : No, that double "s" in the word you so kindly took time to correct my spelling on was deliberate.

Modifié par RaduM, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:38 .

[War Houndoom]

RaduM wrote...

They forced romance in Mass Effect 1 ??

Are you on drugs on deliberately making false statements to raise the ire of the community? Either that,or you are a particularly dim person.

Whichever the case, it would be best if you graced us with your presence and your posts no more.

Yes they did, and you're an idoit for not realizing this. Stop spaming my thread with your false claims.

Modifié par War Houndoom, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:40 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I have never intended in insulting your intelligence. Just your action attacking the comic ruthlessly. You're right a Shep should have been neutral as he could be in ME1 (ive finished that game more than 10 times) and many times I'd succeded in staying single, but it's not my point. Hetero/****** sexualism is of course natural, but many people worldwide see it as a disease. You know I'm right. I accept homosexual people, damn I even know some of them. It's fine they live like other people (a little bit different as we know), but it's not good for ****** people to make parades where they scream loud "long live homosexualism and quick death for heterosexualism". I read it in newspaper here in my country after such a parade. It's sick. I guess hetero-sexual people should make their own parades as well.

Speaking of ME1. What would you do if You were Shepard and had two female teammates trying to romance you ? Imagine you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings or leave your crew in the worst case. Wouldn't you rather say you have stay focused on the mission instead of saying you're not interested in her ? Forget about homosexualism, because it had been cut out for male players playing MaleShep .

[ifander]

I don't understand how anyone forced anyone to pursue romance options in either game - I have a couple of playthroughs with no romance at all, in both games. If you engage in a convo which obviously leads to romance you can always back down (I think, I'm not 100% certain).



The comic seems to have some faults from what i have seen, but saying the original game and ME2 forced romance on anyone is downright false.

[War Houndoom]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

I have never intended in insulting your intelligence. Just your action attacking the comic ruthlessly. You're right a Shep should have been neutral as he could be in ME1 (ive finished that game more than 10 times) and many times I'd succeded in staying single, but it's not my point. Hetero/****** sexualism is of course natural, but many people worldwide see it as a disease. You know I'm right. I accept homosexual people, damn I even know some of them. It's fine they live like other people (a little bit different as we know), but it's not good for ****** people to make parades where they scream loud "long live homosexualism and quick death for heterosexualism". I read it in newspaper here in my country after such a parade. It's sick. I guess hetero-sexual people should make their own parades as well.
Speaking of ME1. What would you do if You were Shepard and had two female teammates trying to romance you ? Imagine you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings or leave your crew in the worst case. Wouldn't you rather say you have stay focused on the mission instead of saying you're not interested in her ? Forget about homosexualism, because it had been cut out for male players playing MaleShep .

I'm not parading homosexuality.

Speaking of ME-1 did you actually play the game and go through all of the dialogue, do you know how impossible it is to be friendly and be forced into a romance even if you didn't want one? Do you also realize that you have to be romancing both of them to even get at that point of the game? It forces it upon you, no ifs or buts. I've had to restart games just because I was forced into a relationship when I'm trying to do my perfect playthrough.

[RaduM]

War Houndoom wrote...

RaduM wrote...

They forced romance in Mass Effect 1 ??

Are you on drugs on deliberately making false statements to raise the ire of the community? Either that,or you are a particularly dim person.

Whichever the case, it would be best if you graced us with your presence and your posts no more.

Yes they did, and you're an idoit for not realizing this. Stop spaming my thread with your false claims.

Oh so now we're down to "idiot" are we? Wonder how the admins would look on this blatant insult.

And please, do tell how exactly they force romance in Mass Effect 1. I am a poor,misinformed soul in dire need of your enlightening holy scriptures. You can pick as your example any of the available ME 1 romances in demonstrating this purported "violation".

This should be fun.

[War Houndoom]

ifander wrote...

I don't understand how anyone forced anyone to pursue romance options in either game - I have a couple of playthroughs with no romance at all, in both games. If you engage in a convo which obviously leads to romance you can always back down (I think, I'm not 100% certain).

The comic seems to have some faults from what i have seen, but saying the original game and ME2 forced romance on anyone is downright false.

Problem is you can only do by being Renegade, I know what i'm talking about, its not false and its almost impossible to do it in the paragon route.

The games should have allowed the player to engage romance, not the NPC's engaging the player.

Modifié par War Houndoom, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:53 .

[War Houndoom]

RaduM wrote...

War Houndoom wrote...

RaduM wrote...

They forced romance in Mass Effect 1 ??

Are you on drugs on deliberately making false statements to raise the ire of the community? Either that,or you are a particularly dim person.

Whichever the case, it would be best if you graced us with your presence and your posts no more.

Yes they did, and you're an idoit for not realizing this. Stop spaming my thread with your false claims.

Oh so now we're down to "idiot" are we? Wonder how the admins would look on this blatant insult.

And please, do tell how exactly they force romance in Mass Effect 1. I am a poor,misinformed soul in dire need of your enlightening holy scriptures. You can pick as your example any of the available ME 1 romances in demonstrating this purported "violation".

This should be fun.

Lol, read the thread I've already explained it. BTW You're the one who started the insults in your first post.

Oh lets see when Liara forces herself upon you when trying to simply talk to you and you have to carefully dodge the wrong dialogue choices, but if you do that then Ashely forces herself up you and you can't escape. It's obvious you have never fully explored the dialogue options. Maybe you should consider that.

Modifié par War Houndoom, 16 janvier 2011 - 01:59 .

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Looks like you haven't read my entire post "ME1 (ive finished that game more than 10 times)"

I've had to try couple of times not to romance, but they were interested after all.

Speaking of the comic, some major things have been changed. I don't like it, but I don't have PS3 so I'm not worried about it.

[ifander]

If I remember correctly you have to progress quite far into Kaidan's/Ashley's/Liara's convo tree to trigger the actual romance. I remember when I was playing the game for the first time I got this distinctive vibe from some conversations that pursuing it further would lead to a romance, so if I wasn't interested I just stopped it there and then. So obviously, if you want to pursue the conversation further along that path you would be going into romance territory. I still don't see this as forcing players to romance anyone. There's still a lot you can talk about without actually romancing them, you just have to be careful with what you say.