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[Eddo36]

I've come to the conclusion that the alien races are psychologically same to humans and with the same average IQ. Same mental behavior, just different body forms. Oddly.

Salarians may talk a bit faster, and asari may have more life experience by living 1000 years, but that's it. Turian honor is only a cultural and not a racial thing.

Modifié par Eddo36, 16 janvier 2011 - 10:46 .

[hawat333]

Especially in the second setup. Or in Avatar. Or in... well, nearly everywhere.

That's because we know human psyhology.

Some novels are worth the read, as they have pretty interesting visions, something unique, something we haven''t met yet.

[didymos1120]

You just now figured that out? Hell, Kaidan will pretty much say exactly that in the first game.

[Eddo36]

I thought alien races would be mentally diverse due to differing biology.

[Nightwriter]

Humanoid aliens are a constant in human-created science fiction.

[GuardianAngel470]

Nightwriter wrote...

Humanoid aliens are a constant in human-created science fiction.

Not necessarily. I read a few novels where the aliens were crazy shapes. One species was similar to giant spiders while another was similar to ants.

Others were like reptilian monkeys and it goes on and on.

[Archontor]

True but atleast they are'nt direct stand in's for modern social issues that all look sound and think the same.

[GuardianAngel470]

Archontor wrote...

True but atleast they are'nt direct stand in's for modern social issues that all look sound and think the same.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I'm gonna go with sarcastic though, just to be safe...

[Deathwurm]

I believe that this is due to the fact that all Great Fiction is meant to reflect "The Human Condition"...Aliens in Science Fiction are meant to reflect aspects of ourselves...just my Opinion.

There was an episode of Star Trek:TNG where it was revealed that the majority of the dominant Races in the Galaxy were seeded by a much Older Race of Bipedal Humanoids with the same general characteristics all the Races shared (two eyes, one mouth, a nose, etc) I thought that was a pretty brilliant way of answering the question of why Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, et al all looked so similar.

[Archontor]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Archontor wrote...

True but atleast they are'nt direct stand in's for modern social issues that all look sound and think the same.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I'm gonna go with sarcastic though, just to be safe...

I meant it honestly ,take the floatilla (the one place where being comparatively similar should make sense) one admiral is an **** (who still wants peace which is nice) another's an honest staright talker  (who hates the geth) and then theres the quarian soldier who's a missle toting badass without much tech-savy, that's a lot of variation

Or even the rare drell, Thane was cool calm and collected Kolyat was a sullen rebel despite being related nevermind that Feron was sly type to be sure.

[Archontor]

Deathwurm wrote...

I believe that this is due to the fact that all Great Fiction is meant to reflect "The Human Condition"...Aliens in Science Fiction are meant to reflect aspects of ourselves...just my Opinion.
There was an episode of Star Trek:TNG where it was revealed that the majority of the dominant Races in the Galaxy were seeded by a much Older Race of Bipedal Humanoids with the same general characteristics all the Races shared (two eyes, one mouth, a nose, etc) I thought that was a pretty brilliant way of answering the question of why Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, et al all looked so similar.

I wouln't say brilliant but it's the thought that counts

[GuardianAngel470]

Deathwurm wrote...

I believe that this is due to the fact that all Great Fiction is meant to reflect "The Human Condition"...Aliens in Science Fiction are meant to reflect aspects of ourselves...just my Opinion.
There was an episode of Star Trek:TNG where it was revealed that the majority of the dominant Races in the Galaxy were seeded by a much Older Race of Bipedal Humanoids with the same general characteristics all the Races shared (two eyes, one mouth, a nose, etc) I thought that was a pretty brilliant way of answering the question of why Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, et al all looked so similar.

I hate literature. If anything I wrote got declared as literature I'd write a step by step guide to every in and out of my intentions and sell it to high schoolers for a cent or just upload it to the internet.

[Deathwurm]

Archontor wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...

I believe that this is due to the fact that all Great Fiction is meant to reflect "The Human Condition"...Aliens in Science Fiction are meant to reflect aspects of ourselves...just my Opinion.
There was an episode of Star Trek:TNG where it was revealed that the majority of the dominant Races in the Galaxy were seeded by a much Older Race of Bipedal Humanoids with the same general characteristics all the Races shared (two eyes, one mouth, a nose, etc) I thought that was a pretty brilliant way of answering the question of why Humans, Vulcans, Klingons, et al all looked so similar.

I wouln't say brilliant but it's the thought that counts

Yeah...probably a bit overstated now that I look at it again...
but I was speaking more from a perspective of giving an answer within the Star Trek Canon to all the Fans who must've asked again and again at Conventions why that was the case...
I guess "brilliant cop out" would've been a better way to put it

[GuardianAngel470]

Archontor wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Archontor wrote...

True but atleast they are'nt direct stand in's for modern social issues that all look sound and think the same.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I'm gonna go with sarcastic though, just to be safe...

I meant it honestly ,take the floatilla (the one place where being comparatively similar should make sense) one admiral is an **** (who still wants peace which is nice) another's an honest staright talker  (who hates the geth) and then theres the quarian soldier who's a missle toting badass without much tech-savy, that's a lot of variation

Or even the rare drell, Thane was cool calm and collected Kolyat was a sullen rebel despite being related nevermind that Feron was sly type to be sure.

Oh, all right. I'm just thinking about how the asari reflect the western world's emphasis (some might say over-emphasis) on politics, how the salarians reflect the efficiency of the Israelis, and how the Turians reflect the militaristic nature of the conservative right in western countries.

Right and Left being relative, I believe their meaning changes depending on what country you're in.

[Deathwurm]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I hate literature. If anything I wrote got declared as literature I'd write a step by step guide to every in and out of my intentions and sell it to high schoolers for a cent or just upload it to the internet.

Gotta call it something and "dem squiggly lines in dem there books that make stories" is just too wordy for me...

[Archontor]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Archontor wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Archontor wrote...

True but atleast they are'nt direct stand in's for modern social issues that all look sound and think the same.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. I'm gonna go with sarcastic though, just to be safe...

I meant it honestly ,take the floatilla (the one place where being comparatively similar should make sense) one admiral is an **** (who still wants peace which is nice) another's an honest staright talker  (who hates the geth) and then theres the quarian soldier who's a missle toting badass without much tech-savy, that's a lot of variation

Or even the rare drell, Thane was cool calm and collected Kolyat was a sullen rebel despite being related nevermind that Feron was sly type to be sure.

Oh, all right. I'm just thinking about how the asari reflect the western world's emphasis (some might say over-emphasis) on politics, how the salarians reflect the efficiency of the Israelis, and how the Turians reflect the militaristic nature of the conservative right in western countries.

Right and Left being relative, I believe their meaning changes depending on what country you're in.

well they might be similar to them but they don't over emphasise the similarities to me so i think it could be that they simply picked systems of government that made sense for the audience

[Nightwriter]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Humanoid aliens are a constant in human-created science fiction.

Not necessarily. I read a few novels where the aliens were crazy shapes. One species was similar to giant spiders while another was similar to ants.

Others were like reptilian monkeys and it goes on and on.

Lol. There are examples to the contrary in everything.

We still shouldn't continue to be surprised at humanoid aliens in sci-fi. They are everywhere.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Yeah, i'd much rather humanoid species than a reptilian ant with no elbows.

[Dean_the_Young]

Krogan are the most alien aliens in Mass Effect, bar possibly the Rachni and the Reapers. If they weren't bipedal, and didn't have Wrex, they'd be great: distinctly non-human, innately different psychology, biology trumping sci fi kumbyyah, and so on.

[JuicElawl]

Eddo36 wrote...

I've come to the conclusion that the alien races are psychologically same to humans and with the same average IQ. Same mental behavior, just different body forms. Oddly.

Salarians may talk a bit faster, and asari may have more life experience by living 1000 years, but that's it. Turian honor is only a cultural and not a racial thing.

what about the hanar or elcor, though?

the volus took the same evolution route as danny de vito, physically.

[rokeeb]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Krogan are the most alien aliens in Mass Effect, bar possibly the Rachni and the Reapers. If they weren't bipedal, and didn't have Wrex, they'd be great: distinctly non-human, innately different psychology, biology trumping sci fi kumbyyah, and so on.

Wait, Wrex makes the Krogan NOT great?

*faints*

[Dean_the_Young]

The change-around from 'aggressive, violent, but not stupid' depiction to 'aggressive, violent, but not stupid with HONOR'.

[Archontor]

rokeeb wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Krogan are the most alien aliens in Mass Effect, bar possibly the Rachni and the Reapers. If they weren't bipedal, and didn't have Wrex, they'd be great: distinctly non-human, innately different psychology, biology trumping sci fi kumbyyah, and so on.

Wait, Wrex makes the Krogan NOT great?

*faints*

He critisezes Wrex his argument is invalid

[Vaenier]

You could also argue they are all like Humans because of convergent evolution. The human way of thinking was most beneficial to survival and advancement, and thus other planets ended up evolving to it on their own, or something like that. Its just an idea.