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Is Dragon Age going to do that stupid thing where girl characters are ALWAYS dressed skimpily?


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AlanC9

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Yeah, Ryzaki, I hope so too. My PnP mages always wear pants -- robes are so damned impractical.

(Remember the howling when NWN1 shipped without robes?)

Modifié par AlanC9, 17 janvier 2011 - 05:35 .


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The 'iconic' outfit has pants. And the beginning armors have all had pants. Merrill seems to be wearing pants. I think we've only seen dude Hawke and Bethany in robes.

Oh, and "Anders."

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I just want to play this game. I dont like to say anything against it without acually being able to say "I've played it" becouse it feels like im just talking out of my ass -.-

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Thanks, Maria. I'd forgotten



Hwy, where did you find the quote in your sig?

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Seriously? We have two girls in Dragon Age 2 that show off a bit of cleavage and the provocative one of those two, dresses provocatively. It's a character trait. Merril, Aveline, and Bethany do not dress in a skimpy way in any way whatsoever. Morrigan was a bit skimpy, but Leliana was found in chantry robes and Wynne was an old woman. Sure the male and female outifts for some mage robes showed off some cleavage, but there were alternatives to those robes.



This is nothing more than social panic. It's being blown way out of proportion.

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I can't wait till March 8th just so I can see all the clothes!!!

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Maria Caliban wrote...

The 'iconic' outfit has pants. And the beginning armors have all had pants. Merrill seems to be wearing pants. I think we've only seen dude Hawke and Bethany in robes.

Oh, and "Anders."


Edit: Wait beginning mage outfits had pants? Do you have any screenies? 

Though do we eventually get the iconic outfit? I hope so.

Merrill's only seen from the waist up though right?

Though on Anders we wouldn't be able to wear something similar to him because of the whole unique armor thing right ? So that doesn't exactly assuage my fears. The same goes for Merrill.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 janvier 2011 - 05:39 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Edit: Wait beginning mage outfits had pants? Do you have any screenies? 

Though do we eventually get the iconic outfit? I hope so.

Merrill's only seen from the waist up though right?

Though on Anders we wouldn't be able to wear something similar to him because of the whole unique armor thing right ? So that doesn't exactly assuage my fears. The same goes for Merrill.



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Dummkopf wrote...


http://ps3.ign.com/d...2105203881.html


Ah I was improperly calling that the commoner outfit. I assumed Hawke had just grabbed whatever while fleeing the darkspawn.

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As a disclaimer I am straight guy, but it pisses me off so much when I equip female characters with armour and it turns out it's just a bikini or something stupid like that. It really takes away the realism of a universe when I see people fighting in armour that should be sold in a sex shop.

Heres an example: Morrigan okay I see she was raised in a forst I understand that and it makes sense but what doesn't make sense is that she's rags in a from what I understand a very cold nation. Espiecally in the wilds. Why wouldn't she be wearing a heavy mage robe to keep warm?

I don't mind nudity in a video game if it makes sense though, an example of this is the lady of the forest if she wore clothes that'd just be stupid.


The female characters in Dragon Age have a male appearance in many ways  and the armour in most cases shows very little, I would prefer to show alittle cleavage or atleast not have broad shoulders like a male player, while Morrigan shows some cleavage it's hardly anything compared to the many games out now.

This is an adult game with adult themes, and do you expect a rogue to be fully covered?, bikini no but not a heavy looking leather oufit with 6 pack abs and showing no skin at all.

Modifié par Majere, 17 janvier 2011 - 05:49 .


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David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.


Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police! :lol:

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

The opposite of skank is not puritan.

I think it's the combination of really huge gazongas barely laced in and the panty shots in battle that takes it from "cute and sexy" into the realm of blatant fanservice.

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wwwwowwww wrote...

My point with Morrigan was simple, if your raised in a secluded envirorment where your free to pretty much do as you please you do not have the inhabitions that others have. Most should be happy that she had that much on if you ask me.

Fair point, but her mother was dressed normally. So can we conclude that the developers wanted to not see old lady boob, and just Morrigan's boobs?

Modifié par maselphie, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:06 .


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maselphie wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

My point with Morrigan was simple, if your raised in a secluded envirorment where your free to pretty much do as you please you do not have the inhabitions that others have. Most should be happy that she had that much on if you ask me.

Fair point, but her mother was dressed normally. So can we conclude that the developers wanted to not see old lady boob, and just Morrigan's boobs?


Flemith was a bit more worldly than Morrigan was she not? 

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Addai67 wrote...

The opposite of skank is not puritan.

I think it's the combination of really huge gazongas barely laced in and the panty shots in battle that takes it from "cute and sexy" into the realm of blatant fanservice.


I don't think Isabela was ever ment to be cute. Sexy sure...but I'm not seeing cute.

Though as long as we don't get any shots of "dat ass" outside of romance scenes I'm happy.

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Really. Do. Not. Want.

(At least not during a scene where I'm discussin family matters unrelated to me and the NPC in question bumping uglies):mellow:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:43 .


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Isabela is fan service.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 17 janvier 2011 - 06:37 .


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Addai67 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.


Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police! :lol:

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

The opposite of skank is not puritan.

I think it's the combination of really huge gazongas barely laced in and the panty shots in battle that takes it from "cute and sexy" into the realm of blatant fanservice.


Isabela strikes me as a "blatant fanservice" kind of gal.

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Addai67 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.


Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police! :lol:

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

The opposite of skank is not puritan.

I think it's the combination of really huge gazongas barely laced in and the panty shots in battle that takes it from "cute and sexy" into the realm of blatant fanservice.


Well, I don't really have much issue with Isabela wearing what she wears (as in, Isabela chooses to wear that and we don't have to) and I am hardly a skank. I don't think you have to be a skank in order to not take issue with others choosing to wear skimpy clothes.

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I don't really consider Isabela to be skanky, honestly.. she's just a liberal woman with a liberal dress sense. What else would you expect from a pirate? She's not trying to say "look at me, I am a skank!" she's just wearing what she's comfortable with. And really, on a ship, with the sun beating down on you all the time.. less clothing sort of makes sense. And those boots.. oh those boots make up for all of it.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Yeah, Ryzaki, I hope so too. My PnP mages always wear pants -- robes are so damned impractical.

(Remember the howling when NWN1 shipped without robes?)


They are...an in the dev vid Hawke was doing this weird walk with his chest pushed out that didn't look right. The robes just made it look weirder.

*has never played NWN*

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Addai67 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.


Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police! :lol:

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

The opposite of skank is not puritan.

I think it's the combination of really huge gazongas barely laced in and the panty shots in battle that takes it from "cute and sexy" into the realm of blatant fanservice.

And why is fanservice considered bad or negative?  Saying you're all puritans because you don't like a provocatively-dressed character is like saying that Dragon Age 2 is full of scantily-clad women.  It's an unfair assumption based on bias rather than actual fact.  It's a broad generalization based on very limited experience with something; in other words a stereotype.  Do some women wear revealing outfits in public on a regular basis?  Yes, some of them do.  Does that make them all "****s"?  No, which is how the "Just because I'm dressed this way..." phrase came about.

I have two friends with natural 38DD breasts.  Both of them are pretty and very nice, but they have very different views on the large bra sizes.  One friend constantly refers to them as "annoying, sacks of back-pains" and wears all manners of loose sweaters and turtle necks to hide them.  The other wears tank tops and blouses that shows off her cleavage and sees it as taking advantage of the way God made her.  Isabela is more like the latter.  She is a gorgeous and sexy woman that embraces the way she looks.  What you may see as "blatant fanservice" could be considered a character trait from a writer's perspective.  Or it could be that too much clothing constricts movement.

Saying Dragon Age 2 is becoming a game "where girl characters are always dressed skimpily" is simply wrong.  It isn't and aside from Morrigan or Isabela, there's very little to suggest that is where Dragon Age, or Bioware is headed.

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M8DMAN wrote...

Isabela is fan service.

In that case, I just became a fan.

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I'm adding "fan service" to my drinking game.

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leonia42 wrote...

I'm adding "fan service" to my drinking game.

I'd do "realism" but I'm quite attached to my liver.

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leonia42 wrote...

I don't really consider Isabela to be skanky, honestly.. she's just a liberal woman with a liberal dress sense. What else would you expect from a pirate? She's not trying to say "look at me, I am a skank!" she's just wearing what she's comfortable with. And really, on a ship, with the sun beating down on you all the time.. less clothing sort of makes sense. And those boots.. oh those boots make up for all of it.

So the Mr. T necklace and boots up to her thighs make sense in hot weather?  Heh.

I don't really care now that I know that our PCs aren't going to look like that.  It's just... in a story-based game, having a neon sign flashing Fanservice is annoying.  And again, it's not any one thing about her, it's the combination of an impossible figure with rather ridiculous clothing.  But, she was made for the men, and as I discovered when innocently perusing Morrigan fanart, some guys get off on the look.  So now it's come out of cheesy fanart and into the game itself.  Progress for them, I guess. LOL

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Addai67 wrote...

I don't really care now that I know that our PCs aren't going to look like that.  It's just... in a story-based game, having a neon sign flashing Fanservice is annoying.  And again, it's not any one thing about her, it's the combination of an impossible figure with rather ridiculous clothing.  But, she was made for the men, and as I discovered when innocently perusing Morrigan fanart, some guys get off on the look.  So now it's come out of cheesy fanart and into the game itself.  Progress for them, I guess. LOL


I've seen people walking around in bikinis even when they probobly shouldn't. Does that mean that they should not be allowed to wear what they feel comfortable with?

Decry all you want, but you can say that Fenris is a fanservice as well, or really any of the companions if you really try hard enough.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 17 janvier 2011 - 07:02 .