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Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.
Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 17 janvier 2011 - 08:36 .
Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.Ryzaki wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
Isabela's outfit is so silly it actually takes away from her character by turning her into a parody of herself.
....Why do you think that?
Just curious is all.
Tyrael02 wrote...
because prudes like wynne aren't exciting lol
Apparently I was giving historical literary critics too much credit.distinguetraces wrote...
Centuries? Are you quite sure?Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Centuries of literary criticism hold that the work of an author is no longer the author's to control once it is in the hands of the reader, and that any impression the reader can draw from the literature is legitimate.
What advantages would that be, getting people to have sex with you?Count Viceroy wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.
Maybe that is the image Isabella herself would like to promote at a glance? I can certainly see a lot of advantages to that.
Did you never listen to Morrigan describe men's reaction to a pretty girl?Atakuma wrote...
What advantages would that be, getting people to have sex with you?
Tyrael02 wrote...
because prudes like wynne aren't exciting lol
TheMadCat wrote...
Sigil_Beguiler123 wrote...
Certainly there can be changes but I think those should be matched by actual relevance in what the character is thinking. If you could change clothing and there be comments, dialogue, etc. to showcase this change in thinking then I be perfectly cool with us having complete control over it but since there isn't. I much prefer leaving it in the hands of the developers to craft a story where if there is changes that influence clothing changes that is acknowledged.
But my point is is it necessary to evolve and portray that character? Because that's what it comes down to, the benefit of allowing us to customize and control our companions to the strength of evolving them throughout the story. Does it have some impact, sure. But is it any greater then minimal? I don't think so. You can portray the same character and show their development and growth regardless of the clothes they wear.If you have a friend you have known a long time and they suddenly changed their entire style you would take not of that. There would likely be a reason behind, etc.
The first question being is it internal or external reasoning, 90% of the time it'll end up being external. New job, new lover, new found wealth, etc.Steffen wrote..
Sure personality is one of the things that
makes us unique, but its so much more then that, its also choice and
action, personality is reflected in the way we move, the way we talk,
and the way we act
the choice of clothing is still deeply affected
by who we are, you have one style, i have another, otherwise everyone in
dragon age might aswell be dressed the same, should make the devs. jobs
a hell of a lot easier.
It's also affected by peer pressure, ease of access, necessity, enviorment and climate, culture, requirments, etc. Clothing is not always, a matter of fact very rarely, deeply decided by who we are.
While I would agree with that, I don't see why the players aren't permitted to decide who the characters are through how they dress.Steffen wrote...
No, clothing almost always depicit who we are, examples: the person that succombs to peer pressure, and dresses the way other people want him/her to, the guy/girl that tries so hard not to fit in instead of figuring out who they are, the guy/girl that is comfortable with who they are even if they feel the need to not wear pants. Two of these indicates internal struggle to figure out who they are, struggle that creates interesting characters, and appeal.
Surely any attempt to express their vision of a character leads to limitations? In which case it's simply a matter of degrees.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Guide? Sure. Limit? Absolutely not.
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Apparently I was giving historical literary critics too much credit.distinguetraces wrote...
Centuries? Are you quite sure?Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Centuries of literary criticism hold that the work of an author is no longer the author's to control once it is in the hands of the reader, and that any impression the reader can draw from the literature is legitimate.
Some quick research traces the Intentional Fallacy to 1946. Okay, so several decades - certainly any study the BioWare writers did of literary criticism would have covered it.
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Tyrael02 wrote...
because prudes like wynne aren't exciting lol
Putting her in the Chasind robes was an odd experince to say the least.
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
While I would agree with that, I don't see why the players aren't permitted to decide who the characters are through how they dress.Steffen wrote...
No, clothing almost always depicit who we are, examples: the person that succombs to peer pressure, and dresses the way other people want him/her to, the guy/girl that tries so hard not to fit in instead of figuring out who they are, the guy/girl that is comfortable with who they are even if they feel the need to not wear pants. Two of these indicates internal struggle to figure out who they are, struggle that creates interesting characters, and appeal.
To me, it's kinda skanky simply because every time she's going to pull off some kind of fancy attack involving kicking/jumping (like in the trailer) she's going to flash the world. All the fashion blogs I frequent would call it a gyno-dress, which is not a term of endearment, and make cracks like there might as well be a big arrow pointing down labeled "check out the goods!" It's just not chic, people.AngelicMachinery wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.Ryzaki wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
Isabela's outfit is so silly it actually takes away from her character by turning her into a parody of herself.
....Why do you think that?
Just curious is all.
I really don't see how her outfit suggests she's a skank? She;s essentially wearing a shirt/skirt combination with booths that might as well be pants.
Modifié par Minxie18, 17 janvier 2011 - 08:58 .
Sure it does. Whether something is present within the text has no relation at all to whether the author intended it be in the text.distinguetraces wrote...
The idea of the intentional fallacy does not, at all, suppose that the reader/critic can draw whatever interpreation they choose from a text, and that all are equally valid.
That doesn't stop us from doing it in DAO.Steffen wrote...
Because the characters are preconcieved no?
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Sure it does. Whether something is present within the text has no relation at all to whether the author intended it be in the text.distinguetraces wrote...
The idea of the intentional fallacy does not, at all, suppose that the reader/critic can draw whatever interpreation they choose from a text, and that all are equally valid.
The simplest example would be the typographical error.
Atakuma wrote...
What advantages would that be, getting people to have sex with you?
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 17 janvier 2011 - 09:00 .
So Isabela is trying to look like a ho? Is she financing her ship with some side business?Count Viceroy wrote...
Atakuma wrote...
The outfit only highlights a single aspect of her character. By designing the outfit the way they did, it gives of the impression that Isabela is all about sex, which just serves to inflate the "skank" persona she's been given on these boards.
Maybe that is the image Isabella herself would like to promote at a glance? I can certainly see a lot of advantages to that.
I'm not. I don't see the difference.distinguetraces wrote...
Don't kid a kidder, chum.Sylvius the Mad wrote...
The simplest example would be the typographical error.
They don't have to be, certainly, but why can't they be? Why create this restriction? It seems malicious.crimzontearz wrote...
sylvius.....
they are not your characters
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