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[upsettingshorts]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Ya know if you had been in front of me just then I would have slapped you for that bit of casual racism and ignorance.

You mean kind of like how nearly everyone in Europe refers to Americans as "Yanks?"

[ScotGaymer]

moilami wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

moilami wrote...

Saibh wrote...
And, again, play RtO.

Why?

Becaust Ostagar is covered in snow?

So what?

When Morri meets PC there is no winter. There is no signs of winter coming, so there is not even fall. After the fight in Ostagar there is nothing to see about winter.

And I have playet RtO. Was third DLC I played. Or fourth.

Right do you have absolutely no perception of the passage of time in a game or something?

It is well documented that Dragon Age Origins takes place over a FULL YEAR; therefore WINTER happened at some point during the game. Alright?


@Upsettingshorts.
A little like that yes.

I'd never do that because I am not an ignoramous; I know the difference between a Yank and an American lol.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:07 .

[Saibh]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

And?

You havent actually refuted what I said and I dont see the point in your post.

Ferelden may be in the southern hemisphere does not preclude the possibility that its climate is UK like - its climate IS UK like. And as you go south from Ferelden into Korcari and then into the Chasind territories the more and more Scotland/Iceland/Norwegian like the climate gets until you hit the antarctic circle of Thedas.

No, but I wasn't arguing. Clarifying, but not arguing.

[ScotGaymer]

Saibh wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

And?

You havent actually refuted what I said and I dont see the point in your post.

Ferelden may be in the southern hemisphere does not preclude the possibility that its climate is UK like - its climate IS UK like. And as you go south from Ferelden into Korcari and then into the Chasind territories the more and more Scotland/Iceland/Norwegian like the climate gets until you hit the antarctic circle of Thedas.

No, but I wasn't arguing. Clarifying, but not arguing.

Oh hehe.

Sorry. I fot you were arguing with me; well at least I clarified my point from it heh. ;-)

[moilami]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

moilami wrote...

And UK is not a cold country (LOL). Northern Russia and (Northern) Scandinavia are cold.

Ya know if you had been in front of me just then I would have slapped you for that bit of casual racism and ignorance.

The United Kingdom does not just Equal England; England is a fairly temperate country; but guess what? the UK includes a country called Scotland and Scotland is on the same latitude as MOSCOW in, where?, NORTH RUSSIA.

And let me just let me say that there are many indications that Ferelden is approaching winter around mid game time; including the RTO DLC. So unless you are actu\\\\ally willing to read and listen to what people opposing you are saying instead of just whitewashing it because it isnt what you think then you should just probably just stop typing.

Hahaha, slapped and called me rascist! Why so emo? And is it so that novadays lolling and saying UK is not cold equals to Rascism? Come on, take a break, deep breath, and chill some. UK and Northern UK and Eire are not cold.

And if you state that because Moscow is on the same latitude as Scotland and therefore it is as cold in Moscow as it is in Scotland, then you are TOTALLY clueless about climate. You people have that thing called Golf Stream which makes a huge difference to the weather.

[Count Viceroy]

When the player was at ostagar the first time, it was still temperate, early fall perhaps. The possible presence of snow at a much later date (ie in the winter) means nothing.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:10 .

[ScotGaymer]

moilami I am going to stop talking to you because you clearly do not want to listen at all.

You seem to think that you know better than a native of the country that we are speaking of.

Arrogant, ignorant, and yes casually racist for what you said.

EDIT:
My point was that England is the temperate Scotland and Northern Ireland is not; they are cold. I live in Scotland so I do know.
Just because my country doesnt get as cold as the arctic circle does not mean that it does not get cold; and does not mean that its perfectly safe for Scots people to  run about as scantily clad as Morrigan in the dead of winter!

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:14 .

[The Elder King]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Ya know if you had been in front of me just then I would have slapped you for that bit of casual racism and ignorance.

You mean kind of like how nearly everyone in Europe refers to Americans as "Yanks?"

Don't know in another countries, but in Italy nobody refers to Americans as "Yanks"
By the way, is yanks the same of yankee? If isn't hoow the Americans of the South (the ex-Confederation) calls the Northen Americans?

[Count Viceroy]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

moilami I am going to stop talking to you because you clearly do not want to listen at all.

You seem to think that you know better than a native of the country that we are speaking of.

Arrogant, ignorant, and yes casually racist for what you said.

Can barely see you up there, on top of that high horse of yours.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:14 .

[upsettingshorts]

hhh89 wrote...
Don't know in another countries, but in Italy nobody refers to Americans as "Yanks"
By the way, is yanks the same of yankee? If isn't hoow the Americans of the South (the ex-Confederation) calls the Northen Americans?

Yanks is short for Yankee, yes.  And yes, if it refers to anyone in the US it's basically North-Eastern Americans.  Or the professional baseball team.

Didn't know that about Italy specifically.  I should have just stuck with UK and Commonwealth countries.

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Arrogant, ignorant, and yes casually racist for what you said.

The Gulf Stream does exist and does effect the climate of Great Britain and Ireland.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:14 .

[Saibh]

Count Viceroy wrote...

When the player was at ostagar the first time, it was still temperate, early fall perhaps. The possible presence of snow at a much later date means nothing.

"Now I wish I was staying. It's damn cold in the south this time of year."

I think that indicates winter is coming.

It's ridiculous that this was brought up because I mentioned that Morrigan's outfit must be cold. And then someone had this Whole Big Thing about it.

[ScotGaymer]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Can barely see you up there, on top of that high horse of yours.

I am sorry you think that.

I was only speaking of my perception of him reading his last half dozen posts in the thread; he doesnt seem to actually be listening to any of the points that anyone opposing his viewpoint are making. Thats quite arrogant.

Telling someone that lives in Scotland that their country isnt cold when you dont come from said country is arrogant.

Presuming that because England is temperate that the rest of the UK must be the same. Is ignorant. And doing the UK=England thing is racist.

Sorry wasnt getting on my high horse about it; but we Scots are very sensistive about the whole England=UK issue which it doesnt.

EDIT:
@upsettingshorts.

Yes I know but that doesnt mean that it isnt a cold country or that it has cold winters which was my point. This winter for example there was parts of Scotland that was buried under 5 to 6 feet of snow; and this isnt really an odd occurance either.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:20 .

[Count Viceroy]

Saibh wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

When the player was at ostagar the first time, it was still temperate, early fall perhaps. The possible presence of snow at a much later date means nothing.

"Now I wish I was staying. It's damn cold in the south this time of year."

I think that indicates winter is coming.

It's ridiculous that this was brought up because I mentioned that Morrigan's outfit must be cold. And then someone had this Whole Big Thing about it.

Relative to Highever, yes, but is it still temperate enough to warrant her outfit?, we don't know.

Also that's the fun part of this place, someone picks up on a very small part of some reply and the whole thread takes a completly different turn. .

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:18 .

[moilami]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

moilami I am going to stop talking to you because you clearly do not want to listen at all.

You seem to think that you know better than a native of the country that we are speaking of.

Arrogant, ignorant, and yes casually racist for what you said.

Do you see how hilarious that is when you contradict yourself?

Supposedly you are Scottish and not Russian. Still you claim it is as cold in Scotland as it is in Moscow, something what can be said to be not true right away with very little knowledge.

Casually racist (sic)? Because of what I said? You mean I should had said "errr, me has not be in Scotland so me guesses it is as cold in Scotland as it is Moscow." Or "Me has not been UK so me can't know, not even guess, what is common language in there. Me can't read."

[ScotGaymer]

moilami wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

moilami I am going to stop talking to you because you clearly do not want to listen at all.

You seem to think that you know better than a native of the country that we are speaking of.

Arrogant, ignorant, and yes casually racist for what you said.

Do you see how hilarious that is when you contradict yourself?

Supposedly you are Scottish and not Russian. Still you claim it is as cold in Scotland as it is in Moscow, something what can be said to be not true right away with very little knowledge.

Casually racist (sic)? Because of what I said? You mean I should had said "errr, me has not be in Scotland so me guesses it is as cold in Scotland as it is Moscow." Or "Me has not been UK so me can't know, not even guess, what is common language in there. Me can't read."

Again you arent listening or reading

No where did I say that Scotland was as cold as Moscow; i merely noted that it is on the same latitude as Moscow and as a result it is a cold country in spite of the gulf stream.

Neither did I imply you were an idiot as you seem to be infering; I said you being being ignorant and casually racist - which you are. Because you seem to be equating temperate England/South England with the UK, which it is not. Again England does not equal UK.

This is my last post to you, cos I dont want this thread locked.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:28 .

[TheMadCat]

Saibh wrote...

What? No. There are references in Commentarii de Bello Gallico, The Histories, and other various accounts. If it was a fabrication, it's an old and well documented one.

The problem is the whole myth originated from a Greek named Poly- something, I can't honestly remember his name but he was the author of The Histories, a chronicler in the Roman Empire whose done quite a bit of bending the truth on the Celts; ranging from the claim that the men actively and openly desired other men (Which to a degree was also true in Rome, apparently Rome's society centered around the love for women and men were pleasure) and their inferior weapondry, which ironicly was the same weapondry used by the Roman's, to their lack of stamina compared to Roman troops and inability to last more then one charge. And the only battle he claimed it to be was a battle in the Po Valley. On the flip side we have evidence of the Celts wearing a form of armor as early as the 5th century BC with some warriors being buried in it, we have histories stating they did fight armored.

So yeah, I also tend to go with the whole myth thing as well seeing as it was started and perpetuated by a cultural snob who ripped on Romans who acted in a manner he deemed outside their social status. Ancient propoganda maybe, someone who simply looked down on anything below the upper enchelon of society, I don't know. It may have happened in a few very rare cases, but that would be far outside the norm and seemes more likely it was done because they could procur no armor rather then a desire to go into battle naked.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:24 .

[Xewaka]

Weevilbits wrote...
Odds are the Qunari just attacked Kirkwall by sea.  If you are the baddest living warrior from a culture designed largely around producing said warriors, you might trust to your inherent badness to keep sharp pieces of metal out of your chest.  And if that fails, at least you fell in combat as befits a warrior of your badditude.  If your ship gets sunk on the way in, no amount of badness is going to keep you from sinking like a stone if you've got a cast-iron stove retrofitted to your chest.  There's no space in Qunari Valhalla for a warrior who fell in combat vs. water.
Note that there's a pretty obvious similar explanation for people who wonder why someone who makes their living as a pirate might be reluctant to armor up.

Of course! They have to either do the whole travesy in armor or battle naked. To imagine that there could be a lookout announcing: "Land. Shoring in a quarter hour. Warriors suit up" is preposterous an illogical.
Considering that land combat and sea combat require for different priorities is equally flabbergasting.
If the sarcasm doesn't get through: What you posted is a clear example of a poor thought out, poorly executed excuse. I want a proper reason.

[Count Viceroy]

Xewaka wrote...
. I want a proper reason.

Because it looks cool.


I think that's about as far as Bioware went on this one.

[Addai]

moilami wrote...
So what?

When Morri meets PC there is no winter. There is no signs of winter coming, so there is not even fall. After the fight in Ostagar there is nothing to see about winter.

And I have playet RtO. Was third DLC I played. Or fourth.

Dude, just play the human noble origin or look up the conversations with Fergus.  The PC can say "have fun marching... in the cold" and Fergus mentions the cold.  Ferelden is, generally, a cold country.  Just because it always looks like summer in the game (apart from RtO, where they clearly decided it was time to change that) doesn't change the lore.  There was no way to show a regular progression of seasons because people could do quests pretty much in any order, and because they didn't want to show people in furs.  Read the novels.

The Ashes temple is different because it's on the top of a mountain and thus always snowy.

I think the Sacred Ashes version of Morrigan's robe is sexier, anyway.  Still shows some cleavage.  Like I've been saying, IMO a little goes a long way.  Now that Isabela gets her own rig, "a little" has turned into watermelons.

[Saibh]

Are women always skimpily dressed in DAII? --> No, except sometimes. -- >Well, that's just fanservice. --> Women don't get fanservice! --> Morrigan was fanservice! --> Morrigan's outfit is cold. --> The history of the Celts.

Modifié par Saibh, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:28 .

[Xewaka]

Saibh wrote...
Are women always skimpily dressed in DAII? --> No, except sometimes. -- >Well, that's just fanservice. --> Women don't get fanservice! --> Morrigan was fanservice! --> Morrigan's outfit is cold. --> The history of the Celts.

Wikiwalk at its best.

Count Viceroy wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
. I want a proper reason.

Because it looks cool. 
I think that's about as far as Bioware went on this one.

Guess what? It does NOT look cool. So let me reiterate:

Xewaka wrote...
 I want a proper reason.

Modifié par Xewaka, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:29 .

[Ryzaki]

Saibh wrote...

Are women always skimpily dressed in DAII? --> No, except sometimes. -- >Well, that's just fanservice. --> Women don't get fanservice! --> Morrigan was fanservice! --> Morrigan's outfit is cold. --> The history of the Celts.

And that's why I love these forums.

[Count Viceroy]

Xewaka wrote...
Guess what? It does NOT look cool. So let me reiterate:I want a proper reason.

In your opinion

Let me rephrase what I said .

Bioware thinks it looks cool, that's all the reason they need.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 18 janvier 2011 - 06:33 .

[moilami]

When you explain how women in Scandinavia and nothern Russia can wear miniskirt and women style socks in winter and only miniskirt during spring and fall but Morri can't wear what she wears, I consider listening this nonsense whining about Morri's clothing.



After that I am all ear to listen nonsense how it is cold winter in Ostagar without any visual evidence supporting the claim, and will begin to RP it would be darn cold winter!



The OP robe I got from some DLC I will give to Morri at once also from this on and RP Morri would get a fly otherwise!



RP sloves are problems!



So long!

[Xewaka]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
I want a proper reason.

Let me rephrase that then.
Bioware thinks it looks cool, thats all the reason they need.

As tempting as it is, I will not retort with the first answer that came to my mind, as it could be considered flaming. Let me only say that I'd expect the creative people at Bioware to know that verisimilitude and "coolness" are not mutually exclusive: quite the opposite, a lack of verisimilitude devaulates the "coolness" of the product.