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[Addai]

KBomb wrote...
If you’re talking about the realism of usefulness as a fighter because her breasts aren’t tied down, then that is a different argument. I would say that not everything in a video game has to be based off realism. At least I would hope not since I like the Survival horror genre. I guess it’s how the individual person views it. If her cantaloupes having free range impede your ability to enjoy playing the game, then I can understand your problem. In my view, however, it’s a very miniscule issue. As long as I can dress my character the way I wish, within the confounds of what Bioware gives me to wear, then I am happy.

Not impede my enjoyment of the game as a whole probably, but of that character.  Like with Miranda.  I thought she was a decent character and had good abilities, but while playing along and every minute or two thinking "ugh, pantsuit"... finally I just stuck her back on the Normandy.  If I'd have been able to put her in some decent armor, I probably would have used her more.

[Sjofn]

KBomb wrote...
I can see your point, but in my opinion it’s still a small issue. You’re not forced to bring Isabela along, I don’t even think you have to even meet her in the game at all if you choose not to.

And as a fellow boobed-american ( I lol’d at that btw) I understand the physics of it isn’t possible, but a lot of things in video games aren’t ( like having sex with your LI outside the tent at camp, possible, but creepy) and I think you have to just bite the bullet and choose your battles. If you let the little things like isabela’s boobs interfere with her being a companion, you might miss out on a very unique and interesting character that could add tremendously to you having a great gaming experience.

Oh, I agree with the "pick your battles" thing. I'm not going to not play or anything, but it's just one of those things that makes me sigh and roll my eyes and wonder if any women work in the art department. And replying to people saying "man what" to no pants by sneering that people only have an issue with lack of pants because they're "puritans" makes me almost pull an eye rolling muscle.

Dunno if Isabella will be a constant companion. Depends on if one of my Hawkes romances her probably, I tend to stick the LI in my party no matter what, because I am sappy like that. If not, she might get Sten'd. A character I like a lot but tend to leave at home because sorry, you happen to be really redundant.


EDIT: Oh man, Miranda's initial outfit bugged me. No way she wasn't picking her catsuit out of her butt every two seconds. The black one wasn't nearly so bad in making me go "argh that looks so uncomfortable," though, so I tend to do her loyalty mission as soon as I possibly can.  And even then it wouldn't have been so bad if we didn't suddenly go to Leer Cam anytime we spoke to her in her office.

Modifié par Sjofn, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:08 .

[moilami]

FitScotGaymer wrote...



Presuming that because England is temperate that the rest of the UK must be the same. Is ignorant. And doing the UK=England thing is racist.

I have no idea how the word "rascism" has eveloved, but for me all the people in UK are equal with all the people in the world. 

You have offended me greatly by calling me rascist and jerk etc. and acted very violently and hostile including a physical threat. That is the reason why I reported all your posts to the moderators. Hopefully you will get some punishment because of your totally inapropriate behaviour.

Please keep your promises and never talk with me.


Edit: And in order to not hide behind this virtual identity I give the address of my blog to you. You can go there calling me whatever you want, or even try to arrange we meet in person.

moilami.weebitila.org/blog

Modifié par moilami, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:21 .

[Addai]

moilami wrote...
 If it would had been winter in Ostagar, then it would had been natural to make the graphics show snow. Now there is summer graphics, and that makes it safe to conclude there was summer, and Morri's robe was perfectly fine. Period.

And Fergus in heavy armor, no doubt with wool padding underneath it, is complaining of the cold because he's just a delicate flower.  LOL  Ok dude, you prefer your alternate reality, we'll stick with what's actually the context of the game.

[KBomb]

Sjofn wrote...

Oh, I agree with the "pick your battles" thing. I'm not going to not play or anything, but it's just one of those things that makes me sigh and roll my eyes and wonder if any women work in the art department. And replying to people saying "man what" to no pants by sneering that people only have an issue with lack of pants because they're "puritans" makes me almost pull an eye rolling muscle.

Dunno if Isabella will be a constant companion. Depends on if one of my Hawkes romances her probably, I tend to stick the LI in my party no matter what, because I am sappy like that. If not, she might get Sten'd. A character I like a lot but tend to leave at home because sorry, you happen to be really redundant.


EDIT: Oh man, Miranda's initial outfit bugged me. No way she wasn't picking her catsuit out of her butt every two seconds. The black one wasn't nearly so bad in making me go "argh that looks so uncomfortable," though, so I tend to do her loyalty mission as soon as I possibly can.  And even then it wouldn't have been so bad if we didn't suddenly go to Leer Cam anytime we spoke to her in her office.

Miranda’s outfit didn’t make me question her ability to fight beyond wondering how she could concentrate on anything other than pulling her suit out of her butt crack. Still, I liked her outfit. Maybe it’s just me lol. Perhaps my entire argument is tied to the fact I like seeing skin, and form-fitting clothes on women. I wonder what Freud would say about that. I remember playing Mass Effect 2 and thinking that my female Shepard looked clunky and how I missed the light armor from ME1.
I guess it all makes me wonder how much of the arguments from others are because of a realism issue, or a personal one that is being disguised as a realism factor. I catalog myself into this as well, since fenris not having shoes bother me. Not because of a realism thing, but because I have a personal issue with dirty feet. That being said, if he is romanceable, I can over look it.

[KBomb]

Addai67 wrote...

moilami wrote...
 If it would had been winter in Ostagar, then it would had been natural to make the graphics show snow. Now there is summer graphics, and that makes it safe to conclude there was summer, and Morri's robe was perfectly fine. Period.

And Fergus in heavy armor, no doubt with wool padding underneath it, is complaining of the cold because he's just a delicate flower.  LOL  Ok dude, you prefer your alternate reality, we'll stick with what's actually the context of the game.

When you first meet Morrigan, and she takes you to meet Flemeth, Daveth (I think), shows hesitation about going with her, something about her cooking them or something along those lines and Ser jory mentions how cold it is and if it were warmer than the wilds, he would happily go. So, I would say it was winter, or a cold part of fall So, Addai67 is correct about it being cold.

[moilami]

Addai67 wrote...

moilami wrote...
 If it would had been winter in Ostagar, then it would had been natural to make the graphics show snow. Now there is summer graphics, and that makes it safe to conclude there was summer, and Morri's robe was perfectly fine. Period.

And Fergus in heavy armor, no doubt with wool padding underneath it, is complaining of the cold because he's just a delicate flower.  LOL  Ok dude, you prefer your alternate reality, we'll stick with what's actually the context of the game.

Alternate reality? In fantasy world where people are in flames every now and then in combat, you whine Morri's "robe" sucks because she would get cold

You talk about "context" and all you have in your hands is one posh saying it is cold Maybe Fergus had flu or something. You put far too much weight on Fergus and totally ignore facts showing there is summer, Morri is not whining of cold, and none else than Fenris is whining.

But if Fenris is your prophet, so be it. In my "alternate reality" Morri is fine with his "robe" as she is fine with her new similar robe possibly crafted by her "momma". And that "alternate reality" happens to be the reality the game designers has done. So it very much seems it is YOU who desperately want to have alternate reality, and more, you want to mock those who does not accept you alternate reality based on delusional posh Fenris.

[Ryzaki]

Eh. I had more problems with them shoving Miri's ass in my face than with her outfit.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:39 .

[upsettingshorts]

I had a problem with the fact her outfit contradicted her character. I do not have such issues with Isabella.

[ErichHartmann]

All Isabela really needs is a pair of shorts!    

*digs out picture from another *game I played as example*

Edit: *Vindictus 

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:48 .

[Ryzaki]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I had a problem with the fact her outfit contradicted her character. I do not have such issues with Isabella.

Yes there was that as well.

Frankly I really don't mind Isabela's outfit (shocking I know given my comments) as long as I don't get needless ass shots/boob shots.

Edit: @Erich: what game is that?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:45 .

[ScotGaymer]

moilami wrote...


Edit: And in order to not hide behind this virtual identity I give the address of my blog to you. You can go there calling me whatever you want, or even try to arrange we meet in person.

moilami.weebitila.org/blog

Look stop trying to derail the thread.

I am not the only person who thinks you are being a jerk here; at least two other folks have expressed the same sentiment and yet no one has said the same thing to me.

So thats enough thank you very much.

@ErichHartmann

What game is that from?

[Addai]

KBomb wrote...
When you first meet Morrigan, and she takes you to meet Flemeth, Daveth (I think), shows hesitation about going with her, something about her cooking them or something along those lines and Ser jory mentions how cold it is and if it were warmer than the wilds, he would happily go. So, I would say it was winter, or a cold part of fall So, Addai67 is correct about it being cold.

Right, Daveth mentions the witch cooking them in a pot and Jory says "if it's warmer than this forest..." etc.  And then there is the fact that in TST the marshes are associated with a cold mist.

But why bother with facts when there's sideboob to be had. 

Modifié par Addai67, 18 janvier 2011 - 09:54 .

[CitizenThom]

You have two options... big bossoms in modestly fitting garb, or more modest sized bossoms in skin tight garb... wait you have three options... the third being not to recruit any female NPC's who possess either of the previous two qualities.



My opinion in the end is, that I like looking at aesthetically pleasing things. Doesn't everyone? I like well detailed armor, well detailed weapons, beautiful landscapes, awe-inspiring architecture, and of course the female form. If a female NPC should have some aesthetically superior armor, I'll recruit her just to envy the armor she's wearing, but if it's easier to design an aesthetically pleasant female body than it is to design stunning armor and fearsome weapons, I don't think the designers should leave out any opportunity to provide a game that's pleasing to the eye.



Likewise for anyone who appreciates the male form I imagine. If they could make a truely pleasing to look at male NPC, would you really ask the developers not to bother making the game more pleasant to look at?

[Sjofn]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh. I had more problems with them shoving Miri's ass in my face than with her outfit.

Yeah, the Leer Cam was reeeeeeally obnoxious. I hope Isabella doesn't get the same treatment, that would be sad.

[lv12medic]

Hmm... I was in the shopping/money thread and I got to thinking. Maybe people are looking at Isabela's outfit all wrong. I propose it says more about her financial status than anything else. There is a well known corrollary of a inverse relationship to the amount of material and functionality in a female's outfit to the cost of the outfit. I think Isabela is flaunting her enormous wealth.

[Addai]

CitizenThom wrote...
Likewise for anyone who appreciates the male form I imagine. If they could make a truely pleasing to look at male NPC, would you really ask the developers not to bother making the game more pleasant to look at?

Do you really need them huge and hanging out for that?  Don't answer that, it's rhetorical!

I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but I really love the concept art for Triss from Witcher 2.  It's unique, it's fairly practical, it's not that much different from Geralt's get-up, and she's still gorgeous.  Likewise the latest images of female Hawke are super.

So, I know, variety is the spice of life etc.  I just put Isabela farther down the list.  Much farther.

[Ryzaki]

Triss looks great. Sexy but covered up.



I don't know why people automatically think boobs and ass hanging out is automatically sexy. Sometimes it's just a turn-off.

[Drizzt ORierdan]

I think that the coolest part is that she (Triss) gets naked "desintegrating" her cloths into thin air... Talk about remaining in character. :-)

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:19 .

[CitizenThom]

Addai67 wrote...

CitizenThom wrote...
Likewise for anyone who appreciates the male form I imagine. If they could make a truely pleasing to look at male NPC, would you really ask the developers not to bother making the game more pleasant to look at?

Do you really need them huge and hanging out for that?  Don't answer that, it's rhetorical!

I'm gonna get in trouble for this, but I really love the concept art for Triss from Witcher 2.  It's unique, it's fairly practical, it's not that much different from Geralt's get-up, and she's still gorgeous.  Likewise the latest images of female Hawke are super.

So, I know, variety is the spice of life etc.  I just put Isabela farther down the list.  Much farther.

I think that's a very good point though.... variety is really the important thing. I don't mind so much the female mage picture early in the thread, but if every single female character in the game had the same identical form (as much of Origins did) any aesthetic impression gets diluted really quick. Part of the appeal would be the uniqueness of such a figure rather than just it's dimensions in my opinion. I don't think anyone wants to see a world (real or fantasy) populated with one bust size and shape. At the same time I don't think exaggerated forms are such a bad thing, so long as they are set a context in which they can be seen as an exaggeration. If exaggerated forms are the norm, they lose any punch that the exaggeration could create.

In my humble opinion, the concept art you linked is pleasant, I'd make the hair so that their a few more random tendrils of hair loose, it just seems to go more with the characters appearance. The portrait of the character is wonderful... and in some ways you'd distract from that if the costume was showing to much flesh, was too tight, etc. Hair could be just as effective as figure in making an aesthetically pleasant character.

[Count Viceroy]

Triss does look better this time around.



Shame the The witcher was crap though. Geralt was (and I presume will be again) about as interesting as a brick.

[Joy Divison]

So in a GAME where people conjure fireballs, scream and knock back all enemies 20 meters (while somehow not effecting allies), instantly heal mortal wounds, get shot by 20 arrows with absolutely no physical impairment at all, must fight demons made of fire, the walking dead, and a corrupted old god, we are going to draw the line of realism that a ****ty woman who uses sex as a weapon could not possibly wear revealing clothes because it's cold outside.





Right...

[Rohx]

i hope they at least we have a range of options for people like the OP that likes covered girls.
And me that i like skimpy female characters. love them as a kid a love them as a 28+ year guys.
what can i say i like the Chain mail Bikini.
What i want is choise, and the more we have the better!

Modifié par Rohx, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:45 .

[AlexXIV]

I think we should make a poll whether people want skimpily/sexy clad girls/guys in the game or rather 'realisticly properly armored' ones. I know what I would vote for.

[CitizenThom]

AlexXIV wrote...

I think we should make a poll whether people want skimpily/sexy clad girls/guys in the game or rather 'realisticly properly armored' ones. I know what I would vote for.

Can I vote for both?