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[_Aine_]

Perhaps great time has passed between the mention in the codex and they have since changed. Maybe this is a branch of their military that simply wears less ( there are some Qunari I have seen completely barechested as well) or perhaps the more lands they conquer the less they wear in a bizarre Qunari drinking game. lol Kidding. Who knows. It may just be that the Codex was written by people who didn't understand the Qunari and so made a few errors. (The " History being written by the victor or angry survivors" deal)

The models may just be so pretty with their muscular definition it was a shame to cover it up. I think they look really cool.

If they decide to have female characters wearing revealing clothes, and it MAKES SENSE, I am all for it. If they are out in the middle of a snowstorm with no pants on, well, that just borders on the ridiculous and I hope they get a slow penalty for that.

Sexualization is different than simply revealing skin though. A person can be fairly undressed and still not be portrayed uncharacteristically sexually. Or vice versa. Sometimes, it is HOW and WHY it is done, not IF it is done.

Besides, there is so much blood and gore in this game, why sexual clothing or nudity is the *biggest* thing people think about is interesting.  

Modifié par shantisands, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:04 .

[John Forseti]

David Gaider wrote...

nijnij wrote...
I mean, I'm not trying to make up flawless explanations but I think that type of minor "retcon" can always be justified with enough imagination.

I'm not sure the popular fan definition of "retcon" has any room for imagination.

Please dont justify it, just say it was always meant to be that way. When Star Trek tried to justify the klingon's ridges... it didn't go well.

[crimzontearz]

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

So... Because the codex mentions an invasion of amored Qunari, this rules out the possibility that Qunari may fight without it, and that this may be because of religion or honour? 

no but it begs the question "why?".

If Qunari forces fought with armor and all Qunari (except the deserters) follow the Qun then why would these Qunari not use armor for a matter of honor or religion?

[ScotGaymer]

I am sorry to the OP but this is clearly and patently UNTRUE.

There is ONE example in Dragon Age of "chainmail bikini" syndrome and that is Morrigan with her robe that MAKES NO SENSE for where she lives.
Considering she isnt portrayed in any of the trailers as the "sexy" female character (thats Leliana) its all the more baffling that she has this showing her bewbage fanservice robe.
But she is the ONLY example of this in Dragon Age.

The other armours and whatnot are all fairly decently done on the whole.

Just fot I would say...

Mass Effect 2 on the other hand... All I can say there is Yikes.

EDIT:
Even in earlier Bioware games like BG, NWN, or KotOR they tended to shy away from this sort of thing.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:07 .

[crimzontearz]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I am sorry to the OP but this is clearly and patently UNTRUE.

There is ONE example in Dragon Age of "chainmail bikini" syndrome and that is Morrigan with her robe that MAKES NO SENSE for where she lives.
Considering she isnt portrayed in any of the trailers as the "sexy" female character (thats Leliana) its all the more baffling that she has this showing her bewbage fanservice robe.
But she is the ONLY example of this in Dragon Age.

The other armours and whatnot are all fairly decently done on the whole.

Just fot I would say...

Mass Effect 2 on the other hand... All I can say there is Yikes.

EDIT:
Even in earlier Bioware games like BG, NWN, or KotOR they tended to shy away from this sort of thing.

good luck with the Mass Effect thing.....people seem to live to climb mirrors and try to justify ME's ridiculous uniforms

[GodWood]

shantisands wrote...
Perhaps great time has passed between the mention in the codex and they have since changed. Maybe this is a branch of their military that simply wears less ( there are some Qunari I have seen completely barechested as well) or perhaps the more lands they conquer the less they wear in a bizarre Qunari drinking game.

I like this.
The qunari are simply playing a friendly game of strip conquer.

[drahelvete]

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

Are you referring to Arrival of the Giants?
It doesn't actually say that qunari soldiers wear their "glittering steel armor" at all times. You wouldn't excpect samurai to wear ō-yoroi instead of kimonos when they're not on a battle field, would you (I'm only using that example because the qunari remind me of the samurai)?
What we see here could very well be traditional/ceremonial clothing.

[crimzontearz]

drahelvete wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

Are you referring to Arrival of the Giants?
It doesn't actually say that qunari soldiers wear their "glittering steel armor" at all times. You wouldn't excpect samurai to wear ō-yoroi instead of kimonos when they're not on a battle field, would you (I'm only using that example because the qunari remind me of the samurai)?
What we see here could very well be traditional/ceremonial clothing.

right..they are armed for battle but wearing ceremonial clothing


just like Jack's manages to keep a constant biotic field around herself (even when unconscious) to protect herself from vacuum environment while naked! -headdesk-

[drahelvete]

crimzontearz wrote...

drahelvete wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

Are you referring to Arrival of the Giants?
It doesn't actually say that qunari soldiers wear their "glittering steel armor" at all times. You wouldn't excpect samurai to wear ō-yoroi instead of kimonos when they're not on a battle field, would you (I'm only using that example because the qunari remind me of the samurai)?
What we see here could very well be traditional/ceremonial clothing.

right..they are armed for battle but wearing ceremonial clothing


just like Jack's manages to keep a constant biotic field around herself (even when unconscious) to protect herself from vacuum environment while naked! -headdesk-

Yes. Because their weapons are their souls (again, very bushido), remember?
European knights would wear their weapons with their casual clothes too. It's not strange at all.

Modifié par drahelvete, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:15 .

[maselphie]

shantisands wrote...

Besides, there is so much blood and gore in this game, why sexual clothing or nudity is the *biggest* thing people think about is interesting.  

Perhaps because blood is a natural, non-discriminating taste, whereas exploitation of a gender is at the expense of half of the world's population, which is known to play this game.

[Steingrimur Steingrimsson]

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

So... Because the codex mentions an invasion of amored Qunari, this rules out the possibility that Qunari may fight without it, and that this may be because of religion or honour? 

no but it begs the question "why?".

If Qunari forces fought with armor and all Qunari (except the deserters) follow the Qun then why would these Qunari not use armor for a matter of honor or religion?

That is certainly right, sir. But as of now, we have little material to go by, all we know is that there are tales of armored qunari and they are half-naked in Kirkwall. There may be a few answers: Their concept changed with the art direction, the Qunari military tradition has changed, this is an elite unit or any other reason, really. My speculation of honour or religion, is due to the Qunari being seemingly cool and collected, yet have a very spiritually side to them as well. I think the only reason they'd do anything as foolish as fight without armour, must be a religious or cultural one.

Modifié par Steingrimur Steingrimsson, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:23 .

[crimzontearz]

drahelvete wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

drahelvete wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Steingrimur Steingrimsson wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I dunno.....honestly if there was an explanation like

"Qunari's skin is as hard as a Krogan's hide.....they are SO badass with it that they do not need armor"

I'd say ok....... but as it is it leaves me wondering

It could very well be that the shirtless Qunari are the result of you launching a surprise sneak attack on their barracks or something.  Or it's Varric exaggerating.  Or maybe they're just hot.  Or they were in the bath.  There could be a fairly simple justification for it that the devs aren't interested in elaborating on at the moment.

From what little we know about the Qunari from DA:O, I am guessing it has something to do with either honour or religion.

the codex begs to differ............

Are you referring to Arrival of the Giants?
It doesn't actually say that qunari soldiers wear their "glittering steel armor" at all times. You wouldn't excpect samurai to wear ō-yoroi instead of kimonos when they're not on a battle field, would you (I'm only using that example because the qunari remind me of the samurai)?
What we see here could very well be traditional/ceremonial clothing.

right..they are armed for battle but wearing ceremonial clothing


just like Jack's manages to keep a constant biotic field around herself (even when unconscious) to protect herself from vacuum environment while naked! -headdesk-

Yes. Because their weapons are their souls (again, very bushido), remember?
European knights would wear their weapons with their casual clothes too. It's not strange at all.

it IS if they are shown cutting a swath through hundreds of guards to get to the "king" of kirkwall like in the trailer/screenshots (notice the crown in one).

they wouldn't have worn freaking ceremonial clothing in such an endeavor

but there is no point arguing, as I said some people find nothing wrong wqith Jack's outfits so......

[drahelvete]

The qunari in the screenshot ARE wearing armor. The one with the red pauldrons doesn't wear much, that is true, but the two in the background seem to be wearing steel.

Modifié par drahelvete, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:22 .

[SnakeStrike8]

I am not certain of the point of this topic. If the OP wanted to know whether or not females in DA 2 wear chainmail bikini, then just go watch some of the gameplay videos. Both of the 'Making of' videos have some, the combat walkthrough does, and the Rise to Power trailer does too.

Why come here and make a topic about it whne one can simply find out for oneself?

[crimzontearz]

drahelvete wrote...

The qunari in the screenshot ARE wearing armor. The one with the red pauldrons doesn't wear much, that is true, but the two in the background seem to be wearing steel.

steel chains only over their shoulders and a mask...the chest is bare

Hell He-Man wore more armor

[Tinxa]

SnakeStrike8 wrote...

I am not certain of the point of this topic. If the OP wanted to know whether or not females in DA 2 wear chainmail bikini, then just go watch some of the gameplay videos. Both of the 'Making of' videos have some, the combat walkthrough does, and the Rise to Power trailer does too.
Why come here and make a topic about it whne one can simply find out for oneself?

You mean like all the people who start threads like "Can I play as a female?", "Who are the companions?" or "I don't know anything about DA2. Fill me in!" and "What place is DA2 set in?" when simply visiting DA2 official site would tell them all these things???
I'm not sure how they manage to find the forums, log in, start a thread and wait for responses and still be too lazy to check the official game site.

Those threads remind me of those lazy school partners you get stuck doing an assignment with and they want you to do all the work for them because they "don't know how to do it" and "need help".

[wwwwowwww]

General Warfield wrote...

As a disclaimer I am straight guy, but it pisses me off so much when I equip female characters with armour and it turns out it's just a bikini or something stupid like that. It really takes away the realism of a universe when I see people fighting in armour that should be sold in a sex shop.

Heres an example: Morrigan okay I see she was raised in a forst I understand that and it makes sense but what doesn't make sense is that she's rags in a from what I understand a very cold nation. Espiecally in the wilds. Why wouldn't she be wearing a heavy mage robe to keep warm?

I don't mind nudity in a video game if it makes sense though, an example of this is the lady of the forest if she wore clothes that'd just be stupid.

Morrigan was scantily clad? was it because she showed her arms? Seriously? This is a joke right? Must be a joke, because without mods there was nobody scantily clad in DA:O that I can remember save for maybe Dalish females but I didn't see nothing really wrong with that at all. Honestly think you just need to relax

[AlanC9]

FitScotGaymer wrote...
There is ONE example in Dragon Age of "chainmail bikini" syndrome and that is Morrigan with her robe that MAKES NO SENSE for where she lives.

How should she have dressed?

[jamirflyd2]

I wouldn’t say Morrigan was dressed like a ****. She’s a witch from a forest and that’s what she likes. I hate it in video games when the amour is not gendered based. Examples in mass effect 2 WHY is a women running around in a giant armor suit when Miranda, Tali, Samara, even Jacob, are wearing skin tight clothing??? Clothes should fit gender, no people’s choices, with the options to also wear out of gender. I am not saying this in negative sense, but for me having a girl run around like a guy is stupid, and everyone would raise hell if a guy ran around dressed like a more female character (complaining only in America). People should have the option to dress their characters in revealing or fully covered clothing.

[John Forseti]

Morrigan was scantily clad? was it because she showed her arms? Seriously? This is a joke right? Must be a joke, because without mods there was nobody scantily clad in DA:O that I can remember save for maybe Dalish females but I didn't see nothing really wrong with that at all. Honestly think you just need to relax

She shows more than her arms;

[jamirflyd2]

John Forseti wrote...

Morrigan was scantily clad? was it because she showed her arms? Seriously? This is a joke right? Must be a joke, because without mods there was nobody scantily clad in DA:O that I can remember save for maybe Dalish females but I didn't see nothing really wrong with that at all. Honestly think you just need to relax

She shows more than her arms;

This is nothing omg! People are crazy! Oh yeah she just a naked little **** my eyes are forever messed up and playing a charcter like this would be so boring!!!

[AtreiyaN7]

Oh hey, look at Cassandra in all that armor.

[Il Divo]

Could she be wearing a bit more clothing? Yes, but I don't think it's a huge deal. Morrigan is a shapeshifter living in the wild, a 'Witch of the Wilds'. She dresses as she pleases and her outfit is very much complimented by her personality, how she doesn't mind using sex to manipulate people. She's not a circle mage and is not going to walk around in a robe just for decency's sake.

[jamirflyd2]

Il Divo wrote...

Could she be wearing a bit more clothing? Yes, but I don't think it's a huge deal. Morrigan is a shapeshifter living in the wild, a 'Witch of the Wilds'. She dresses as she pleases and her outfit is very much complimented by her personality, how she doesn't mind using sex to manipulate people. She's not a circle mage and is not going to walk around in a robe just for decency's sake.

You said it better than I could lol it is what it is!!!

[John Forseti]

jamirflyd2 wrote...

This is nothing omg! People are crazy! Oh yeah she just a naked little **** my eyes are forever messed up and playing a charcter like this would be so boring!!!

I'm not trying to make a value judgement of her "wardrobe" I just agree that calling it modest, or saying "it just shows a bit of arm" is a bad description.