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[jamirflyd2]

David Gaider wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...
Oh, what I'm trying to say is, maybe some people are shocked to see more provacative women in DA2? In DA:O, we only really had Morrigan, and Morrigan's outfit wouldn't have been quite so shocking if Bethany and re-visioned Isabela had been there! So, while it's great that we have more females who are comfortable with their bodies and want to show them off, I can understand where some people think it's taking different turn from DA:O.

Personally, I only feel uncomfortable when I look at Bethany, since I'm supposed to play her older brother or sister! In real life, when my little sisters dress provocatively, I always say something, or encourage them to wear sweaters... Of course, this only encourages them to take off even more clothing, so maybe I'll just let Bethany dress the way she wants, haha.

More provocative women in DA2? Based on what?

Isabela is certainly showing some skin, no question. Bethany shows some cleavage, but not even that much (unless you're going strictly by the exaggerated version of her) and certainly no more than your average character in Origins. Beyond that you've seen Merrill and Aveline, who are about as un-provacative as I imagine one could be. The only other female character we've shown is the female templar, who is just as heavily armored as Aveline is.

Come to think of it, I think this exact same thread popped up when we revealed Morrigan the first time. Isabela is no more representative of how women dress in DA2 than Morrigan was for Origins.

This is a genius response I mean it's David Gaider he rocks!!!  I think the the girls rep who they are!!!

[wwwwowwww]

John Forseti wrote...

Morrigan was scantily clad? was it because she showed her arms? Seriously? This is a joke right? Must be a joke, because without mods there was nobody scantily clad in DA:O that I can remember save for maybe Dalish females but I didn't see nothing really wrong with that at all. Honestly think you just need to relax

She shows more than her arms;

OMG your right! Who would of thought that a woman who was brought up in the wilds would not be so constrained by the worlds inhabitions around her and have a vast wardrobe to cover herself up with! Thank you for bringing this outrage to my attention!

[Dhiro]

David Gaider wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...
Oh, what I'm trying to say is, maybe some people are shocked to see more provacative women in DA2? In DA:O, we only really had Morrigan, and Morrigan's outfit wouldn't have been quite so shocking if Bethany and re-visioned Isabela had been there! So, while it's great that we have more females who are comfortable with their bodies and want to show them off, I can understand where some people think it's taking different turn from DA:O.

Personally, I only feel uncomfortable when I look at Bethany, since I'm supposed to play her older brother or sister! In real life, when my little sisters dress provocatively, I always say something, or encourage them to wear sweaters... Of course, this only encourages them to take off even more clothing, so maybe I'll just let Bethany dress the way she wants, haha.

More provocative women in DA2? Based on what?

Isabela is certainly showing some skin, no question. Bethany shows some cleavage, but not even that much (unless you're going strictly by the exaggerated version of her)

Wait. Wait. W-a-i-t. In the exaggerated version Bethany uses a robe. She doesn't show anything. You're saying that her white outfit is actually her exaggerated outfit?

[rabidhanar]

EDIt: i hate it when younger siblings go onto my forums *sigh

Sorry about that...must remember to log off next time.

Modifié par rabidhanar, 17 janvier 2011 - 04:37 .

[Ziggeh]

rabidhanar wrote...
For the record: i do not condone the Copout that Isabela is a ghost therefore she does not need armor.

Wait, what?

[SirOccam]

I don't think anyone in DA2 is dressed provocatively at all, aside from Isabela.

I mean, Bethany? She shows a little cleavage in some shots, but it's well within typical fantasy standards. Even tame, I'd say. Go look at some Vallejo or something to see how it could have been.



Merrill? Uh, just no. We've only seen one waist-up shot of her, and unless she's going pantsless like Isabela, I think we're pretty safe here (especially considering her rumored personality).



I don't think we even need to mention Aveline.


So that leaves Isabela. No one will argue she's not dressed provocatively, but then again she's...Isabela! Of course she'd be dressed provocatively. She has at least as much reason to do so as Morrigan did, given her personality/lifestyle.

So we pretty much have a single provocatively-dressed character, and it's one who totally fits that style. Is that really such an outrage?

Edit: wow, that apparently took a while to type up. 'd 11 minutes ago by Gaider.

Modifié par SirOccam, 17 janvier 2011 - 04:44 .

[KawaiiKatie]

David Gaider wrote...
Bethany shows some cleavage, but not even that much (unless you're going strictly by the exaggerated version of her) and certainly no more than your average character in Origins.

I guess that's fair to say. Come to think of it, we did have all those female Dalish elves runnign around in middrift-showing light armour, right? I'd forgotten about them. When I think of female NPCs, I think of the Chantry sisters and those neck-high peasant dresses... but I guess it's not fair to site nameless people when we're talking about female leads.

I suppose when I said that I was seeing more provcatively-dressed women in DA2 versus DA:O, I was specifically thinking of Morrigan versus her female party memebers Wynne and Leliana, who come to the party dressed conservatively... but you know, you're right, Bethany isn't all that bad. There really aren't all that more provacatively-dressed women in DA2 than DA:O, is there? And if there are, it's by a small margin, and there's certainly enough conservative women to balance it out.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 17 janvier 2011 - 05:02 .

[Addai]

I have to say, the early shots had me pretty worried, but with femHawke looking normal, all is well. Maybe there will be a rivalry path option where you can comment on Isabela's taste in clothing. lol

[jamirflyd2]

@SirOccam you my friend are also a smart! I mean the NPC's are dressed by the way they act and how they lived so all the haters get off thier backs!

[David Gaider]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.

Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police!

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

[mellifera]

wwwwowwww wrote...
OMG your right! Who would of thought that a woman who was brought up in the wilds would not be so constrained by the worlds inhabitions around her and have a vast wardrobe to cover herself up with! Thank you for bringing this outrage to my attention!

And why should it matter if a woman brought up wherever wants to do the same? It's an individual's prerogative to dress as they like. It's laughable you'd think a woman who IS A PIRATEgives a flying frak about what society's opinion on her outfit, or that somehow women not raised in a forest by their crazy mom don't show any cleavage. Morrigan could have chosen to add a few more strips of cloth to her shirt but she didn't because she didn't feel like it.

jamirflyd2 wrote...
I love David Gaider! He is all about making everyone happy!

LOLLLLLL

Modifié par yukidama, 17 janvier 2011 - 04:44 .

[KawaiiKatie]

AlanC9 wrote...
Leliana probably spent most of most people's games in one of those bare-midriff light armor outfits.

I always thought Leliana looked stunning in Scale Armour, for some reason....
......oh, but that's pretty off-topic, huh? Oops...

[wwwwowwww]

yukidama wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
OMG your right! Who would of thought that a woman who was brought up in the wilds would not be so constrained by the worlds inhabitions around her and have a vast wardrobe to cover herself up with! Thank you for bringing this outrage to my attention!

And why should it matter if a woman brought up wherever wants to do the same? It's an individual's prerogative to dress as they like. It's laughable you'd think a woman who IS A PIRATE gives a flying frak about what society's opinion on her outfit, or that somehow women not raised in a forest by their crazy mom don't show any cleavage. Morrigan could have chosen to add a few more strips of cloth to her shirt but she didn't because she didn't feel like it.

huh? Perhaps you missed all the sarcasm dripping off my statement, or perhaps you just don't understand what I just wrote. I dunno, either way my question to you is the same, huh? 

[Ryzaki]

David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.

Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police!

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

Unnecessary much? Thinking someone not wearing pants is silly =/= Puritan

[rabidhanar]

I can see her ankle...I am now scarred for life.



Seriously people, why does it matter how this one individual decides to dress. Unless you are going to pursue a romance with her similar to how many people chose to romance Jack (I know that the reason is totally because of her personality *sarcasm) it should not affect your game. If your immersion is broken by one fighter not fighting in massive armor then please kindly look into the reason that massive armor is now no longer in use.



Massive armor = impedes movement

Woman with no armor + rapier/scimitar beats soldier wearing massive armor in combat. As long as the weapon is a piercing weaon (as Isabela's weaponry is sure to be) armor is almost a nonissue.

[mellifera]

wwwwowwww wrote...

yukidama wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...
OMG your right! Who would of thought that a woman who was brought up in the wilds would not be so constrained by the worlds inhabitions around her and have a vast wardrobe to cover herself up with! Thank you for bringing this outrage to my attention!

And why should it matter if a woman brought up wherever wants to do the same? It's an individual's prerogative to dress as they like. It's laughable you'd think a woman who IS A PIRATE gives a flying frak about what society's opinion on her outfit, or that somehow women not raised in a forest by their crazy mom don't show any cleavage. Morrigan could have chosen to add a few more strips of cloth to her shirt but she didn't because she didn't feel like it.

huh? Perhaps you missed all the sarcasm dripping off my statement, or perhaps you just don't understand what I just wrote. I dunno, either way my question to you is the same, huh? 

LOL. Sarcasm does not always translate well over text  My point still stands, though. It's not like I haven't seen people making the exact argument.

Modifié par yukidama, 17 janvier 2011 - 04:46 .

[KawaiiKatie]

David Gaider wrote...
Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

You mean I can't control what my little sister wears?
Darn, this is like real life!

[jamirflyd2]

Are we not in 2011 anymore I mean did I jump into the future??? *_*

[David Gaider]

Ryzaki wrote...
Unnecessary much? Thinking someone not wearing pants is silly =/= Puritan

Why is it silly? Is a short skirt or a tunic dress silly? Every comment I've seen regarding her so-called lack of pants either has a puritanical streak behind it or takes the view that she's not wearing enough armor-- as if adding a pair of pants to her current outfit would make her sooo much better protected?

Yeah, I'm going with puritanism. Thankfully, she doesn't care.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

David Gaider wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...
The only problem I have with Isabela is that she has no pants.. I mean, wtf.

Oh no! A character in a tunic dress! Someone inform the Puritan Police!

Honestly, the fact that Isabela is always going to dress like Isabela, and someone can't switch her out into a dowdier set of armor just because is probably the thing I like most about the new inventory system.

I hope she at least puts some short shorts on in one of her other outfits so her butt cheeks aren't flying out when she's doing a  attack.

[Ryzaki]

For the record I didn't overly care about Morri's outfit. I was far more irritated by the fact that my PC's chest was huge and in certain robes had ridiculous cleavage. (Easily solved by playing a warrior and using mod robes) but in Vanilla boy was that annoying.

[pizoxuat]

I prefer to play Barbie Dress-Up with my companions in RPGs, but I have no problem with the actual look of the mandatory outfits they've given to the female characters in DA2. I do want the option to roll my eyes at Isabela's outfit at some point during the game, but it feels appropriate for her.

[DaggerFiend]

David Gaider wrote...

tunic dress

Just want to take a moment to thank you for this confirmation. I always thought it was just a really short dress, not a shirt, explaining why she doesn't wear pants with it, but had not evidence to back it up. Now I can just refer to this post.

[Ryzaki]

David Gaider wrote...

Why is it silly? Is a short skirt or a tunic dress silly? Every comment I've seen regarding her so-called lack of pants either has a puritanical streak behind it or takes the view that she's not wearing enough armor-- as if adding a pair of pants to her current outfit would make her sooo much better protected?

Yeah, I'm going with puritanism. Thankfully, she doesn't care.

Frankly I think it just look riduclous. Nothing to do with "puritan" views or needing more armor. And I also wonder how comfortable she'd be sitting on something wooden that could potentially give her a splinter but regardless.

And how is that outfit a short skirt? 

And I am unaware of what a tunic dress is. It simply looks like she's wearing a long shirt with a slit near the thigh with a scarf tied around her waist. That said I'm not saying it's not a dress.

(For someone supposedly so open why the necessity of the scarf? ) 

Really though making the assumption that everyone who finds it eh is because some sort of realism/puritian remark is just off to me. I mean just shallow and shortsighted. It's like choosing the easiest target to go "haha" at to belittle their opinion even if the person you quoted didn't mean it in that context.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 17 janvier 2011 - 04:55 .

[pizoxuat]

Ryzaki wrote...

(For someone supposedly so open why the necessity of the scarf? ) 

It gives a pop of color that draws the eye to her hips, which are magnificent and should draw attention.  Duh.