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[afhdjs]

Did I hear Cassandra say BS to Varric in the developer's diary on story? Is DA2 like following the rule in North American non-cable TV, where swears are sometimes thrown in if it is used in a sentence instead of out in the open and not directly at somebody? I'd prefer HBO style profanities, but some indirect coarse language is good enough.

[David Gaider]

Our watchwords for profanity are occasional and impactful.

Profanity can be a great tool. It also makes for great meetings -- the one where the writers and editors sat down and drew up a list of what profanity was acceptable and what was unacceptable was probably the most hi-larious meeting I had all year long.

[David Gaider]

nijnij wrote...
Because of different standards I assume ?

David Gaider : okay, let's have the Dwarves use "sod" a lot and give the Warden the option to call Anora a **** a couple of times.

Editor : Er, isn't that a little... How about "you're darn tootin' " ?

Sheryl Chee : F*$k this s%#t, I'm out of here.

You know Sheryl well, I see.

It's not so buch about different standards-- more us deciding what swears come off as being too anachronistic, which ones we were uncomfortable using (and whether that discomfort was just us being fuddy duddies or a legitimate reason not to use them) and which alternatives for swears that we could use that fit a bit better into our lore (such as crude names one might use for an elf or a mage).

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

[David Gaider]

slimgrin wrote...
I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.

And Gaider is silent...

Heh. God forbid I have other things to do. I didn't see this until I came back, but it's too funny not to respond.

Even though we'd obviously been working on DAO for years prior to the Witcher coming out, clearly what happened was we either rearranged everything in our game to be more like the Witcher's awesome... or we should have gone "Oh no! The Witcher has elements similar to ours! If we don't make changes immediately there will be people on the forums rushing in to make superficial comparisons and point out how we copied them! We cannot allow that!"

...or we could simply allow for the fact that both DA and the Witcher have their common roots in fantasy, where nothing is completely new. I'm fine with that, myself, and if someone chooses to believe we were inspired by the Witcher, that's fine. It's a pretty great game, and there are worse things to be compared to. Knock yourself out.

[David Gaider]

Maria Caliban wrote...
There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

Both, actually. There are some uses of the masculine that are considered less offensive than the feminine, but both have their pros and cons regarding usage. Ultimately we decided we're just not dark and edgy enough to use either with a straight face.

[David Gaider]

Avilia wrote...
You could say Everquest ripped off D&D (which it did and admitted to) but where does it all end! *waves hands in air and runs round the room madly*

My understanding is that the rules for the Internet Comparison Game are as follows:

1) You need go no further back than the last game you played (or liked). Anything before that didn't exist.

2) Ignore any differences that don't fit your hypothesis. They are irrelevant.

3) Anything that is similar is a "rip-off" or "cliche", which is bad. Sneer when you invite anyone to prove you wrong.

[David Gaider]

Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place? 

It depends on just how much shock value you're going for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, and in this case there's no in-world reason to use them in a realistic sense-- so would we be doing it just for the giggles? Could it potentially be jarring, or maybe look like we're trying too hard to be edgy? We don't use the f-bomb for the same reason.

[David Gaider]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Did you use euphemisms then? Can I look forward to my Lady Hawke call someone a nugsucker with her English accent?

Euphemisms are fine, and not uncommon even in everyday speech. The only problem with them is that you can start to look like you're going out of your way not to use the "real" language, especially when dealing with characters that are angry and/or lower class. Having some sailor call you a "fuzzy sock sucker" would be amusing, but also lame.

crimzontearz wrote...
by "we" I'm assuming you mean the DA
team......because the ME team uses cluster F-bombs like they7 are going
out of style thanks to jack

Of course. Different creative teams completely. I wish I could use expletives like the ME team can-- but a post-modern setting allows for very different things (and comes with its own limitations, I suppose).

And Jack was ****ing awesome.

Modifié par David Gaider, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:14 .