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Coarse language in DA2?


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Kimarous

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drahelvete wrote...

... Or some good medieval swear words like "zounds".

Alas, "zounds" is unlikely to appear. The word is a corruption of the expression "God'(s wounds)", referring to Christ being nailed to the cross. The closest equivalent to that is Andraste's burning, so it would likely be some kind of corrupted reference to fire. That or something straight-up profane like "Andraste's flaming t*ts!"

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I think it's best in fantasy when half the characters swear randomly in a cockney accent. That's how you can tell it's dark and mature.

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By the way, **** is used in every sentence nowadays it seems. It is so bad, that in films portrying an elder era, they use the word although it was not in use at that time

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I was sensored.. f**k

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drahelvete

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Kimarous wrote...

drahelvete wrote...

... Or some good medieval swear words like "zounds".

Alas, "zounds" is unlikely to appear. The word is a corruption of the expression "God'(s wounds)", referring to Christ being nailed to the cross. The closest equivalent to that is Andraste's burning, so it would likely be some kind of corrupted reference to fire. That or something straight-up profane like "Andraste's flaming t*ts!"


Yes, I know, it was just an example.
"Andraste's flaming teats". Good one. Definitely blasphemous enough.

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Ziggeh wrote...

I think it's best in fantasy when half the characters swear randomly in a cockney accent. That's how you can tell it's dark and mature.


Please. I can think of a certain other title that has already done this.  :whistle: 

Wonder if Dragon Age 2 will follow suit. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:13 .


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SoleSong wrote...

By the way, **** is used in every sentence nowadays it seems. It is so bad, that in films portrying an elder era, they use the word although it was not in use at that time


Depends on what era. It was pretty common in 17th century poetry.

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Kimarous wrote...
That or something straight-up profane like "Andraste's flaming t*ts!"

This should be used, although maybe drop the flaming. Much better than Makers breath.

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scyphozoa wrote...

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I'd prefer HBO style profanities


Ooh, I want Hawke to be voiced by Larry David!

I would buy five thousand copies if this happened.  Happens.  Is happening.  NOW, BIOWARE, GDI!

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SoleSong wrote...

By the way, **** is used in every sentence nowadays it seems. It is so bad, that in films portrying an elder era, they use the word although it was not in use at that time

Which era are you talking about? It, and other forms of profanity, goes back a long way.

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Each f-bomb out of Bobby Knight was special.

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Ailith430 wrote...

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Did I hear Cassandra say BS to Varric in the developer's diary on story? Is DA2 like following the rule in North American non-cable TV, where swears are sometimes thrown in if it is used in a sentence instead of out in the open and not directly at somebody? I'd prefer HBO style profanities, but some indirect coarse language is good enough.


So you prefer swear words being used ALL the time like in Deadwood?

When they're used that much they tend to lose their power and it becomes a bit hilarious.


Everything should be more like Deadwood.  Or at least have Swearengen pasted into it somewhere.

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David Gaider wrote...

Our watchwords for profanity are occasional and impactful.

Profanity can be a great tool. It also makes for great meetings -- the one where the writers and editors sat down and drew up a list of what profanity was acceptable and what was unacceptable was probably the most hi-larious meeting I had all year long.

I demand juicy details!

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David Gaider wrote...

Our watchwords for profanity are occasional and impactful.

Profanity can be a great tool. It also makes for great meetings -- the one where the writers and editors sat down and drew up a list of what profanity was acceptable and what was unacceptable was probably the most hi-larious meeting I had all year long.


Because of different standards I assume ?

David Gaider : okay, let's have the Dwarves use "sod" a lot and give the Warden the option to call Anora a **** a couple of times.

Editor : Er, isn't that a little... How about "you're darn tootin' " ?

Sheryl Chee : F*$k this s%#t, I'm out of here.

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Ailith430 wrote...

So you prefer swear words being used ALL the time like in Deadwood?

When they're used that much they tend to lose their power and it becomes a bit hilarious.

The Thick Of It is a solid case in point.

edit: that link could probably use a warning. Much profanity ensues.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:25 .


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Play the Witcher is you want it, The witcher is really awesome anyways so you cant lose :P

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I'd love a companion who really knows how to dish out some flowery insults. Doesn't have to be "coarse", just inventive. Someone like Edmund Blackadder or Edwin Odesseiron from the BG games (was he based on Blackadder by any chance?).

Modifié par drahelvete, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:34 .


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nijnij wrote...
Because of different standards I assume ?

David Gaider : okay, let's have the Dwarves use "sod" a lot and give the Warden the option to call Anora a **** a couple of times.

Editor : Er, isn't that a little... How about "you're darn tootin' " ?

Sheryl Chee : F*$k this s%#t, I'm out of here.


You know Sheryl well, I see.

It's not so buch about different standards-- more us deciding what swears come off as being too anachronistic, which ones we were uncomfortable using (and whether that discomfort was just us being fuddy duddies or a legitimate reason not to use them) and which alternatives for swears that we could use that fit a bit better into our lore (such as crude names one might use for an elf or a mage).

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

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David Gaider wrote...

nijnij wrote...
Because of different standards I assume ?

David Gaider : okay, let's have the Dwarves use "sod" a lot and give the Warden the option to call Anora a **** a couple of times.

Editor : Er, isn't that a little... How about "you're darn tootin' " ?

Sheryl Chee : F*$k this s%#t, I'm out of here.


You know Sheryl well, I see.


I'd put a b****s of mother*****s in the end. For emphasis.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...

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When they're used that much they tend to lose their power and it becomes a bit hilarious.


I wouldn't mind there being a comic-relief style character (preferably one with an Irish or Scottish accent), who swears with every third word, but personally I just find this style hilarious, especially when they're mad and they proceed to basically hose down the world with the f-bomb.  There's a point at which it ceases to be offensive at all and just becomes silly incoherent spewings.


Sebastian? ;)

Modifié par Blackout62, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:36 .


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Those discussions should be recorded, and thrown in with collector editions of future games.

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I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

Modifié par slimgrin, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:49 .


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slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.


That's great, and I'ma let you finish but Baldur's Gate II had the best course language of all time, of all time! :?

/Yawn.

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Aeducan : Out of my way, you casteless c*$# !



Editor : Now, wait a minute...

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slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

The Witcher was the first game to use curse words?