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[Cuthlan]

slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

Coarse.

And The Witcher was not the innovator of this. Nor is it the topic of these forums.

[drahelvete]

slimgrin wrote...



I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

What are you trying to say?

Did The Witcher invent coarse language? Is it the first fantasy CRPG to use coarse language? No and no.

Sounds a lot like the "Dragon Age has elves just like WoW? Dragon Age is a total WoW rip-off" arguments.

[heretica]

wulfsturm wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

That's great, and I'ma let you finish but Baldur's Gate II had the best course language of all time, of all time!

/Yawn.

[DragonRacer13]

David Gaider wrote...

nijnij wrote...
Because of different standards I assume ?

David Gaider : okay, let's have the Dwarves use "sod" a lot and give the Warden the option to call Anora a **** a couple of times.

Editor : Er, isn't that a little... How about "you're darn tootin' " ?

Sheryl Chee : F*$k this s%#t, I'm out of here.

You know Sheryl well, I see.

It's not so buch about different standards-- more us deciding what swears come off as being too anachronistic, which ones we were uncomfortable using (and whether that discomfort was just us being fuddy duddies or a legitimate reason not to use them) and which alternatives for swears that we could use that fit a bit better into our lore (such as crude names one might use for an elf or a mage).

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

To have been a fly on the wall...

[crimzontearz]

Atakuma wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

The Witcher was the first game to use curse words?

but of course.........did you not know?..the witcher is the BEST game ever! It even inspired Bioware romances!!!!!

I swear to god I hope TW2 fails worse than killzone

Modifié par crimzontearz, 16 janvier 2011 - 11:57 .

[slimgrin]

I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.

And Gaider is silent...

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 janvier 2011 - 12:04 .

[Shifty Assassin]

Im hoping theres more swear words in da 2 then origins makes things intresting when characters unexpectedly drop the word F*** especially now that theres the new dialouge wheel

[wulfsturm]

slimgrin wrote...

I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.

And Gaider is silent...

...

Are you implying that BioWare copied CD Projekt?

Really?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Etc.

[slimgrin]

wulfsturm wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.

And Gaider is silent...

...

Are you implying that BioWare copied CD Projekt?

Really?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Etc.

Yep. That's what I'm implying. Or they looked at the same source material. Again, I'll shut up as soon as Gaider proves me wrong.

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 janvier 2011 - 12:09 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Xebioz wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

"female dog"

huh?

The term for "female dog" is "b***h"

Ooohreally?

You never knew this? 

What do you think?

[crimzontearz]

slimgrin wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.

And Gaider is silent...

...

Are you implying that BioWare copied CD Projekt?

Really?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Etc.

Yep. That's what I'm implying. Or they looked at the same source material. Again, I'll shut up as soon as Gaider proves me wrong.

it does not matter, right, that DAO had been in the works for five years?

[wulfsturm]

slimgrin wrote...

Yep. That's what I'm implying. Or they looked at the same source material. Again, I'll shut up as soon as Gaider proves me wrong.

I think this applies to you:

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php

Oh, and have you ever heard of innocent untill proven guilty? It is up to the accuser (you) to bring the evidence (which there is none) to support your case. Just saying.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 17 janvier 2011 - 12:13 .

[Xebioz]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Xebioz wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

"female dog"

huh?

The term for "female dog" is "b***h"

Ooohreally?

You never knew this? 

What do you think?

Hmmm, you didn't? 

[DPB]

slimgrin wrote...

Yep. That's what I'm implying. Or they looked at the same source material. Again, I'll shut up as soon as Gaider proves me wrong.

This was answered several times years ago in one of the many tedious 'DA plagiarised TW' threads. I'm sure David & co are a bit fed up by now of being accused of plagiarism. Both were in development at the same time (both were first announced at E3 2004), and no, the writers hadn't read any of the novels - by the time they were released in English (2007/08) DA had already been worked on for years.

Modifié par dbankier, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:15 .

[nijnij]

You just explained Origins' "Pure **** Braid" item to me (English isn't my first language)! I always assumed it meant something like "Awesome F*$!ing Braid", which seemed okay in the context of a reward from an optional boss (the High Dragon) you've been trying to bring down for half an hour. Well, I still think it's a nasty word . Words aren't offending because of where they come from but because of how they've been used in history.

[Xebioz]

nijnij wrote...

You just explained Origins' "Pure **** Braid" item to me (English isn't my first language)! I always assumed it meant something like "Awesome F*$!ing Braid", which seemed okay in the context of a reward from an optional boss (the High Dragon) you've been trying to bring down for half an hour. Well, I still think it's a nasty word . Words aren't offending because of where they come from but because of how they've been used in history.

I can see how you could make that assumption 

[Maria Caliban]

David Gaider wrote...

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

[crimzontearz]

Maria Caliban wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

I believe he was referring to the feminine

[Maria Caliban]

slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

As we all know, the words f**k and s**t never appeared in games or fantasy literature prior to the Witcher. NEVER.

Obviously, if characters in Dragon Age swear, it's another thing they've ripped off from that game.

crimzontearz wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

I believe he was referring to the feminine

Why do you believe that?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:21 .

[GodWood]

I was under the impression that ASoIaF was Dragon Age's main source of inspiration not 'The Witcher'.

[Maria Caliban]

GodWood wrote...

I was under the impression that ASoIaF was Dragon Age's main source of inspiration not 'The Witcher'.

Yet Gaider & Co. have provided us with nothing as giggle worthy as 'his fat, purple mast' or 'buried in her steaming, Moorish swamp.'

[Cuthlan]

Maria Caliban wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

I believe he was referring to the feminine

Why do you believe that?

Because the masculine "C" word, assuming you mean the alternative name for a rooster, is not generally very offensive. So I doubt a conversation about it would be all that interesting. Maybe, though.

Actually, I think it is silly that either would be considered offensive, but the feminine "C" word is certainly offensive to some women, especially in the States. I think it must have something to do with the actually mechanics of the word striking a strange chord with them mentally... there are other words that mean essentially the same thing, yet that word somehow upsets them more.

[crimzontearz]

Maria Caliban wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I hate to rain on the parade here, but The Witcher did everything 'course' before Dragon age did.

As we all know, the words f**k and s**t never appeared in games or fantasy literature prior to the Witcher. NEVER.

Obviously, if characters in Dragon Age swear, it's another thing they've ripped off from that game.

crimzontearz wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The c-word debate was particularly awe-inspiring.

There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?

I believe he was referring to the feminine

Why do you believe that?

a combination of factors

as a straight up insult the Male-C would have to be associated to another word in order to make sense....and it is usually a sexually oriented insult. It can also be replaced with a more useful D-word which was also used before by Bioware (in Mass Effect 2 as well). Female-C word can be used as more of a 1 word insult without the need to sexualize it.....it would be more "malleable" an instance to be put in in nearly any context.

of course it could just be me

[drahelvete]

GodWood wrote...

I was under the impression that ASoIaF was Dragon Age's main source of inspiration not 'The Witcher'.

Yes. ASoIaF and Frank Frazetta.

And Dragon Age was announced in 2004. Years before The Witcher.

[Maria Caliban]

Cuthlan wrote...


Because the masculine "C" word, assuming you mean the alternative name for a rooster, is not generally very offensive. So I doubt a conversation about it would be all that interesting. Maybe, though.

I've had interesting conversations about ****. Maybe you just hang out with the wrong group.

Actually, I think it is silly that either would be considered offensive, but the feminine "C" word is certainly offensive to some women, especially in the States. I think it must have something to do with the actually mechanics of the word striking a strange chord with them mentally... there are other words that mean essentially the same thing, yet that word somehow upsets them more.

I see, it's silly for women to be offended by the word c**t.

If someone told you your mother or girlfriend was a c**t, you wouldn't have any problem with this?

crimzontearz wrote...

a combination of factors

as a straight up insult the Male-C would have to be associated to another word in order to make sense....and it is usually a sexually oriented insult. It can also be replaced with a more useful D-word which was also used before by Bioware (in Mass Effect 2 as well). Female-C word can be used as more of a 1 word insult without the need to sexualize it.....it would be more "malleable" an instance to be put in in nearly any context.

of course it could just be me

That's an excellent point. I find myself in agreement.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:41 .