Hence the "pike twirling" comment in Origins?David Gaider wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?
Both, actually. There are some uses of the masculine that are considered less offensive than the feminine, but both have their pros and cons regarding usage. Ultimately we decided we're just not dark and edgy enough to use either with a straight face.
David Gaider wrote...
Avilia wrote...
You could say Everquest ripped off D&D (which it did and admitted to) but where does it all end! *waves hands in air and runs round the room madly*
My understanding is that the rules for the Internet Comparison Game are as follows:
1) You need go no further back than the last game you played (or liked). Anything before that didn't exist.
2) Ignore any differences that don't fit your hypothesis. They are irrelevant.
3) Anything that is similar is a "rip-off" or "cliche", which is bad. Sneer when you invite anyone to prove you wrong.
Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:05 .
Kane-Corr wrote...
I think Sandal should swear if you deny him his enchanment offering.
Sandal: "Enchantment?"
Hawke: "Not now boy, I have fiends to slay!"
Sandal: "Bloody hell you just say?"
Hawke: O.O
Sandal: "I'm sick of this sodding %$#@"
Coarse indeed. Welcome to the dark world of Hawke...
Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place?
Xebioz wrote...
Kane-Corr wrote...
I think Sandal should swear if you deny him his enchanment offering.
Sandal: "Enchantment?"
Hawke: "Not now boy, I have fiends to slay!"
Sandal: "Bloody hell you just say?"
Hawke: O.O
Sandal: "I'm sick of this sodding %$#@"
Coarse indeed. Welcome to the dark world of Hawke...
He also needs to have Mr. T as the VA when he snaps. Cannot get better than that, FOOL!
David Gaider wrote...
Both, actually. There are some uses of the masculine that are considered less offensive than the feminine, but both have their pros and cons regarding usage. Ultimately we decided we're just not dark and edgy enough to use either with a straight face.Maria Caliban wrote...
There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?
by "we" I'm assuming you mean the DA team......because the ME team uses cluster F-bombs like they7 are going out of style thanks to jackDavid Gaider wrote...
Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place?
It depends on just how much shock value you're going for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, and in this case there's no in-world reason to use them in a realistic sense-- so would we be doing it just for the giggles? Could it potentially be jarring, or maybe look like we're trying too hard to be edgy? We don't use the f-bomb for the same reason.
Haha, and that's where Hawke shoots a stream of electrical current into the guy in "The Story" Dev Diaryyogolol wrote...
I want someone to get really pissed at Hawke and just cuss him off.
Wait, so Bioware ripped off something that they inspired? Holy carp, it's video game incest!Drizzt ORierdan wrote...
I dont think theres anything wrong with being inspired by smthg when its clearly good and quality material.
One thing is to be inspired by smthg one very different is to make a CLONE.
CDP RED (the Witcher's team) always say they were originally inspired by the great RPGs of Bioware like the Baldurs Gate series, of which they considered themselves fans...
Maria Caliban wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
Both, actually. There are some uses of the masculine that are considered less offensive than the feminine, but both have their pros and cons regarding usage. Ultimately we decided we're just not dark and edgy enough to use either with a straight face.Maria Caliban wrote...
There are two c-words. The feminine and the masculine. To which are you referring?
Did you use euphemisms then? Can I look forward to my Lady Hawke call someone a nugsucker with her English accent?
In this case they fit Jack perfectly.crimzontearz wrote...
by "we" I'm assuming you mean the DA team......because the ME team uses cluster F-bombs like they7 are going out of style thanks to jackDavid Gaider wrote...
Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place?
It depends on just how much shock value you're going for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, and in this case there's no in-world reason to use them in a realistic sense-- so would we be doing it just for the giggles? Could it potentially be jarring, or maybe look like we're trying too hard to be edgy? We don't use the f-bomb for the same reason.
Malanek999 wrote...
In this case they fit Jack perfectly.crimzontearz wrote...
by "we" I'm assuming you mean the DA team......because the ME team uses cluster F-bombs like they7 are going out of style thanks to jackDavid Gaider wrote...
Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place?
It depends on just how much shock value you're going for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, and in this case there's no in-world reason to use them in a realistic sense-- so would we be doing it just for the giggles? Could it potentially be jarring, or maybe look like we're trying too hard to be edgy? We don't use the f-bomb for the same reason.
Maria Caliban wrote...
Did you use euphemisms then? Can I look forward to my Lady Hawke call someone a nugsucker with her English accent?
crimzontearz wrote...
by "we" I'm assuming you mean the DA
team......because the ME team uses cluster F-bombs like they7 are going
out of style thanks to jack
Modifié par David Gaider, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:14 .
That's a good point, but I'd still love to see some random graffiti that reads, "Andraste is a nugsucker". Just in tiny letters, somewhere. Like on the chantry board.David Gaider wrote...
Euphemisms are fine, and not uncommon even in everyday speech. The only problem with them is that you can start to look like you're going out of your way not to use the "real" language, especially when dealing with characters that are angry and/or lower class. Having some sailor call you a "fuzzy sock sucker" would be amusing, but also lame.Maria Caliban wrote...
Did you use euphemisms then? Can I look forward to my Lady Hawke call someone a nugsucker with her English accent?
Modifié par legbamel, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:14 .
I completely agree.David Gaider wrote...
Euphemisms are fine, and not uncommon even in everyday speech. The only problem with them is that you can start to look like you're going out of your way not to use the "real" language, especially when dealing with characters that are angry and/or lower class. Having some sailor call you a "fuzzy sock sucker" would be amusing, but also lame.Maria Caliban wrote...
Did you use euphemisms then? Can I look forward to my Lady Hawke call someone a nugsucker with her English accent?
Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:18 .
David Gaider wrote...
Of course. Different creative teams completely. I wish I could use expletives like the ME team can-- but a post-modern setting allows for very different things (and comes with its own limitations, I suppose).
And Jack was ****ing awesome.
David Gaider wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
I played DA after I played TW1. Sorry, but the similarities are too apparent to ignore. I actually hope both sequels are good; I'm no fanboy.
And Gaider is silent...
Heh. God forbid I have other things to do. I didn't see this until I came back, but it's too funny not to respond.
Even though we'd obviously been working on DAO for years prior to the Witcher coming out, clearly what happened was we either rearranged everything in our game to be more like the Witcher's awesome... or we should have gone "Oh no! The Witcher has elements similar to ours! If we don't make changes immediately there will be people on the forums rushing in to make superficial comparisons and point out how we copied them! We cannot allow that!"
...or we could simply allow for the fact that both DA and the Witcher have their common roots in fantasy, where nothing is completely new. I'm fine with that, myself, and if someone chooses to believe we were inspired by the Witcher, that's fine. It's a pretty great game, and there are worse things to be compared to. Knock yourself out.
Pretty good.scyphozoa wrote...
Ooh, I want Hawke to be voiced by Larry David!
Come on now- A Dwarven Commoner Thug/ Crime Lord voiced by Ian McShane, spouting off filthy language would be pure gold.David Gaider wrote...
Euphemisms are fine, and not uncommon even in everyday speech. The only problem with them is that you can start to look like you're going out of your way not to use the "real" language, especially when dealing with characters that are angry and/or lower class. Having some sailor call you a "fuzzy sock sucker" would be amusing, but also lame.
Modifié par Brockololly, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:30 .
And yet some people (my mother included) would be completely offended by the use of the word "damn." It's all relative, which is why we (society, collectively) should just call the whole thing off. Allow everything. Stop caring. Words only have what power we give them.HolyAvenger wrote...
I don't think you particularly need coarse language to make points/emphasise emotions- usually if the writing/VA is up to scratch, I'll never notice it.
My favourite piece of non-coarse swearing in a BioWare game? This of course:
"OK, I've just about had my FILL of riddle asking, quest assigning, insult throwing, pun hurling, hostage taking, iron mongering, smart arsed fools, freaks, and felons that continually test my will, mettle, strength, intelligence, and most of all, patience! If you've got a straight answer ANYWHERE in that bent little head of yours, I want to hear it pretty damn quick or I'm going to take a large blunt object roughly the size of Elminster AND his hat, and stuff it lengthwise into a crevice of your being so seldom seen that even the denizens of the nine hells themselves wouldn't touch it with a twenty-foot rusty halberd! Have I MADE myself perfectly CLEAR?!"
Took the words right out of my mouth.David Gaider wrote...
And Jack was ****ing awesome.
David Gaider wrote...
Jazharah wrote...
Wouldn't the intent of using them be to skew faces in the first place?
It depends on just how much shock value you're going for. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, and in this case there's no in-world reason to use them in a realistic sense-- so would we be doing it just for the giggles? Could it potentially be jarring, or maybe look like we're trying too hard to be edgy? We don't use the f-bomb for the same reason.
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