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[LeraG]

 Right at the start of the night fall battle the game will crash to desktop;  It doesn't always crash there sometimes if I make it past that part and enter the castle, right before I enter the Arl's Study where the statues animate to kill, it will crash there also.  All the crashes that I've experienced are only during an onset of a battle.

Specs:

Amd Athlon 64x2 5200+
Clock speed 1004 Mhz

NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT 512MB  (driver version 260.99)

DirectX 11

4 gigs of DDR2

DAOrigins.exe  v1.04

Vista 32bit


Anti-Aliasing-OFF
Vertical Sync-OFF
Frame-Buffer Effects-OFF
Persistent Gore-OFF
Disable Aspect-Ration Correction (Unchecked) 
Graphic Detail Med
Resolution 1680x1050
Full Screen Mode


HELP Please

[RaenImrahl]

Thanks for posting your specs!  I use to have that exact same processor and card combo... it was a while ago.  I can tell you that running a full 4GB of ram on 32-bit Vista can be a challenge.  Windows 32-bit software will usually only recognize 3.5GB of *total* memory... including your video card.  On that system, I ended up swapping out a pair of 2 x 1GB dimms for 2 x 512MB dimms to get under the limit.  (I wonder if you've had crashes in any other programs?)

That said, it's not *always* a problem for everyone.  But Dragon Age is a CPU intensive game... so you could be running into ram issues when the action starts to intensify.

That said, before you start pulling out chips or anything like that, I would suggest two things:

1) You may be experiencing an overheating issue.  This is a major source of system instability.  As the action "heats up", your hardware will do the same... literally.  GPUz is a free program that can tell you how hot your graphics card is getting... it's at http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ .  Other programs, like SpeedFan, can tell you how hot your system is getting.

2) If you're playing at 1680 x 1050, try backing it down to a lower resolution and see if you get crashes. 

Good luck,

RI

[LeraG]

Thanks RaenImrahl,



No other issues with anything crashing, the game use to not crash until I reinstalled and applied the 1.04 patch!!!!!!



My pc is an alienware, I will test the cards heating but I did that when 1.02 patch came out and no issues but you never know. I will also try to lower resolution. Check back ok, I'll report back.

[RaenImrahl]

LeraG wrote...

Thanks RaenImrahl,

No other issues with anything crashing, the game use to not crash until I reinstalled and applied the 1.04 patch!!!!!!

You're welcome.

Personally, I've never had a systems issue with patch 1.04-- only mild frustration at what wasn't fixed (mainly in Awakening).  You might be surprised how much dust can build up inside a machine in just a few months, and it really does affect cooling. 

Good luck!

[LeraG]

Temp was 56 and then 58, lowered resolution and still crashed. How do I turn off the PhysX?

[LeraG]

No not dust, I clean it once a month or more. I am very picky about that! Fans are all clear and working...

[CrustyCat]

LeraG wrote...

Temp was 56 and then 58, lowered resolution and still crashed. How do I turn off the PhysX?

I don't think you can turn off the physx.  Have you tried different versions of nvidia drivers?  Try 258.96.

Modifié par CrustyCat, 17 janvier 2011 - 03:45 .

[RaenImrahl]

LeraG wrote...

No not dust, I clean it once a month or more. I am very picky about that! Fans are all clear and working...

Wow.  Your cleansliness shames me....

Anyway... let's see:  I don't think you *can* turn off PhysX for Dragon Age... I believe DA forces it to run on the CPU (someone out there can correct me if I'm wrong).  The Physx settings are in the Nvidia control panel under "3D Settings"...  I would suggest leaving it on "Automatic".

Okay... while we're there, you might consider going under 3D Settings/Adjust 3D settings with preview/  and select "Let the 3D application decide" (if it's not set to that already).

Some people have said that the newest Nvidia drivers (260 series) are buggy.  There is a beta version of the 265 series online.  You could experiment with that or uninstall the newest driver and roll back to an older one.  Many recommend using a program like DriverSweeper to make sure your drivers are truly uninstalled.

Beyond that, I'm getting into wild speculation here.  I had an issue when I put a newer, DDR5 graphics card into my system with an Athlon X2 6000+ processor... not as many crashes but a lot of "spiky" polygons.  A lot of people had the same problem with older Nvidia cards that came "factory overclocked".  The solution is posted here:  http://social.biowar...8/index/5574840 ... it involves underclocking your GPU's memory a little.

BTW, do you have any mods installed?

I'm about out of ideas right now... These problems can be hard to diagnose, especially when you say the game ran fine sometime in the past.  Lots can change on a Windows machine over the months... as Vista sits there and purrs (or coughs) along, as you update this or that, or download this or that.  And of course, there's still that 32-bit/4GB RAM thing I mentioned. 

Okay... I am starting to wax philosophical.  I would suggest holding off on anything radical for a few days and let others on this board comment if they can.

RI

[LeraG]

Yeah I am not certified PC Techy but I know more than the average and in my early days I've learned what dust can do to a PC. That is why I'm very picky about dust. I also when I had this PC built 3 years ago to install a better power supply. I know I need to upgrade but my pennies are too few now so I have to live with this PC for a while. I keep working on this end...if you can think of anything to check...please stop by and give your suggestions.



Strange, I just reinstalled the game patch, started up the game and got through the redcliffe siege but, soon as I hit where those animated statues are heading to the Arl's study, bam crashed again.



I'm looking at my 3d settings and I noticed where it says Multi-Display/Mixed-GPU acceleration it was set at Global setting (multiple display performance mode) shouldn't that be set at single display performance mode? Also the maximum pre-rendered frames is at 3..wonder if I lower that down to 2 if that would help?



The only thing that has changed was I updated the video driver a few months back.



I do have some mods however the mods I have are the same exact ones that someone I know have and is not experiencing any issues at all. I even got her Chargen file to make sure..most mods are character creator and some equipment. I've also tested them and still crashed. That is what I thought at first it was a MOD, but after at least a week trying to figure this out, I've come to the conclusion it isn't a mod.



I even tried to delete all my characters, and start new. Thinking maybe I have a corrupted saved game. NOPE....I'm baffled by it.

[Scimal]

I'll save you a bunch of time and pain.



The 1.04 patch introduced a lot of "random" crashes. Check out the "Random Crashes" thread on this forum.



From the sounds of it, the moment the game tries to render too many animations at once, or some particularly pretty animations, it chokes and dies.



I can consistently recreate the crash by trying to Paralysis Explosion, and others experience it with Wynn and her abilities. It's something to do with rendering.



Others have tried a bunch of solutions (lowering graphics settings, setting CPU affinity to 1 or lowering/raising the priority of the game, changing drivers, etc.) and a few have been able to (subjectively) prolong the periods between crashes.



Others have had nothing work.



Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's getting fixed before DA:O 2 comes out - the patch was out 6 months ago, and the random crashing hasn't received any special attention.

[LeraG]

well Dang, I have DA2 on pre-order but if stuff like this is with that game too...I'm so done.

[Scimal]

I doubt DA2 will have this, as 95% of the "random" crashes didn't exist until the 1.04 patch. The game ran beautifully (barring a memory leak that lead to increasingly long load times) up until then.



Hopefully they'll patch it once DA2 goes gold.

[LeraG]

I'm about to reinstall, not add awakening/DLC's, and not patch the game. Play through Origins, then install awakening, patch and see if this is the solution. I would rather deal with long loading times then crashing.

[LadyKarrakaz]

LeraG wrote...

I'm about to reinstall, not add awakening/DLC's, and not patch the game. Play through Origins, then install awakening, patch and see if this is the solution. I would rather deal with long loading times then crashing.

Funny, I'm writing a blog entry about problems and installing the game. it's still a bit rough, but maybe it'll be useful for you. Check here. 
 Oh, and to me, I don't think your crashes are  linked to hardware. 

Modifié par Purple Lady, 17 janvier 2011 - 01:12 .

[LeraG]

THank you Purple Lady, just tried to underclock my V card and it still crashed. I don't think it is hardware either.

[LeraG]

Lady I have a question> Can I just save my override folder and the addin folder and after I install place the originals back in minus of course the DLC in my original Addin folder?

[LadyKarrakaz]

I don't recommend this. If the data corruption comes from an addin, you'll import it in your new clean install. Back them up, but try to reinstall all the files anew, and only use the backup if you're stuck in the install (no reason you should be stuck though). And of course, back up your saves!
I'm updating the blog post, will try to add more details.
You don't use mods right? Just DAO, DAA and official DLCs?

Modifié par Purple Lady, 17 janvier 2011 - 02:07 .

[LeraG]

No I have mods, that is why I was asking if I can save the override folder. All the mods I have are the same exact as my friend and she has had ZERO problems with any crashes...hers all work fine. This is why I asked if I can just keep the override. I tell you that DWBH hamburger is confusing as all heck.

[LeraG]

I can reinstall the ones that show up in the Addin folder, but I was wondering if all the basic hair, skin, ect mods in the override if I can just cut and paste that back in.

[LadyKarrakaz]

if they are basics like hair and skin textures, etc, it should be safe, no way it could be a game breaking issue.

[LeraG]

That is what I thought...I'll just install the Dazips that puts stuff in the Addin folder anew using DAO-Modmanager

[LeraG]

Alright time to defrag so I must get off. I'll post an update after I finish it all. *crossing my fingers*

[RaenImrahl]

I'll make a bet... reinstall with no third party mods, roll back your GPU driver, and patch to 1.04... and it will work, as long as you keep the graphics settings low to medium.

[LeraG]

Um, what a pain in the butt. I was cleaning up my pc before I did a reinstall and uninstalled this DVD creator program and it did something awful to my pc to where the CD wouldn't autoplay. Going through the registry, what I needed wasn't even there! Soooooooooo...I did a fresh install of vista. Doing updates right now of all drivers and stuff. I haven't even gotten to installing DAO yet.

[RaenImrahl]

LeraG wrote...

Um, what a pain in the butt. I was cleaning up my pc before I did a reinstall and uninstalled this DVD creator program and it did something awful to my pc to where the CD wouldn't autoplay. Going through the registry, what I needed wasn't even there! Soooooooooo...I did a fresh install of vista. Doing updates right now of all drivers and stuff. I haven't even gotten to installing DAO yet.

Yeah...  But I mentioned in another post... sometimes Windows runs best when it's nuked and reinstalled fresh.   I just rebuild two Windows installs in the last two weeks, so I know your pain.   It's like air travel.  First couple of times you fly on a big commercial airliner, it's exciting.  Now it's just drugery.