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rodgerage

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Meredith Stannard is the Knight-Commander of the Templars of Kirkwall and the main antagonist.

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Her hatred for mages: When Meredith was younger, her sister developed magical talents but her family decided to shield her from the Chantry. One day, Meredith's sister was possessed by a demon, turned into an abomination and killed the rest of her family save for Meredith, who survived. The Templars eventually slew her sister, but not before the Abomination killed 70 villagers. This experience led to Meredith's harsh view on magic and why mages must be treated as people with a curse.

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Sharn01 wrote...
I am getting kind of tired of the overstated dangers of magic.  At some point in Thedas's history the first mages came about, they had no one to teach them and no organization to keep them in check and yet somehow the world didnt end, somehow these mages learned their magic and taught it to new mages.


That is, of course, ignoring the fact that the world back then was a much more dangerous place. An abomination tearing up the countryside was simply something that happened and needed to be dealt with. You also had an empire ruled by mages that oppressed everyone else, and (if Chantry dogma is to be believed) started the Blight.

I think an argument can definitely be made that magic is inherently dangerous, yes.

You cant punish people for what they can possibly do, you have to punish people based on what they actually do.


I guess it depends on what you consider punishment. The Chantry looks on the Circle as a mercy -- what is the alternative, after all? The mages would say "let us watch ourselves", but then we're back to the specter of the magisters. And what if there are mages who don't care for the idea of other mages coming after them, either? Would that not place them in the position of being oppressed, as well?

There is no easy answer, here, which is just as I like it. :)

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Sharn01 wrote...
Should I be locked up because I know how to do this, or should law enforcement at least wait until I have posed some threat before arresting me?


That's an argument with blood magic, yes, but not with abominations. The mere fact that you possess this knowledge does not mean you will go on a killing rampage against your will. The problem with mages is that even those with the best intentions can still present a threat. It complicates the issue precisely because there is no set criteria for who is at risk.

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Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.


Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.


Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.


I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong. ;)

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
Is she your character?


Who, Meredith? Absolutely.

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Maria Caliban wrote...
If Cassandra and Meredith got into a fight, would Meredith kick Cass' backside to Orlais and back?


To Nevarra and back, maybe. Meredith is not to be ****ed with.