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[Dhiro]

Risax wrote...

In one of my older threads I talked about Viscount Dumar. And I think he is either a weak ruler that's only there as the Templars puppet, or a ruler that agrees with the way the Templars run things in Kirkwall, giving them the oppurtunity what they want.

If the former of those two is correct, I suspect that Meredith is the true ruling force in Kirkwall.

Templars do have much power in Kirkwall, don't they? It must be nice to be a secret ruler. The official ruler we'll get the blame if you mess things up, after all.

[Meyne]

Totally late to the convo due to sleep and work schedules, but not all templars are bad.

In fact, these ladies (goes to Aimo deviant art) are my heroes. (click forward to the other three parts to see why!)

[Maria Caliban]

filaminstrel wrote...

Ziggeh wrote...

filaminstrel wrote...

What if there were demonic shenanigans?

Well, I assume their were, but I'd assume it would be common knowledge if they were essentially run by demons, as the Chantry is pretty on the ball with propaganda.

Maybe the demons are like Maria and keen on preventing any further persecution of their race, so their secret died with the Imperium.

You think darkspawn are icky and evil, don't you? We don't like them either!

Obviously, we can't be that bad.

[Dhiro]

Meyne wrote...

Totally late to the convo due to sleep and work schedules, but not all templars are bad.

In fact, these ladies (goes to Aimo deviant art) are my heroes. (click forward to the other three parts to see why!)

Hehe.
HEHE.

I love this comic. Nakkid Alistair.

[Risax]

Dhiro wrote...

Risax wrote...

In one of my older threads I talked about Viscount Dumar. And I think he is either a weak ruler that's only there as the Templars puppet, or a ruler that agrees with the way the Templars run things in Kirkwall, giving them the oppurtunity what they want.

If the former of those two is correct, I suspect that Meredith is the true ruling force in Kirkwall.

Templars do have much power in Kirkwall, don't they? It must be nice to be a secret ruler. The official ruler we'll get the blame if you mess things up, after all.

Yes Dumar is probably a figure head.
That, or he is making his own schemes to overthrow the Templars. Though that didn't go well for the Viscount before him...

[Ziggeh]

Ugh. Inappropriate use of their. Now I have to wear the special hat.

[Maria Caliban]

Risax wrote...

Yes Dumar is probably a figure head.
That, or he is making his own schemes to overthrow the Templars. Though that didn't go well for the Viscount before him...

He's obviously gotten into bed with the Templars but that doesn't mean he has no power of his own.

[HolyAvenger]

Risax wrote...

If the former of those two is correct, I suspect that Meredith is the true ruling force in Kirkwall.

There's a brief scene/dialogue in Witch Hunter which refers to Kirkwall as a city ruled by templars doesn't it?

[Risax]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Risax wrote...

Yes Dumar is probably a figure head.
That, or he is making his own schemes to overthrow the Templars. Though that didn't go well for the Viscount before him...

He's obviously gotten into bed with the Templars but that doesn't mean he has no power of his own.

Yes but he doesn't have complete power. And the Viscount before him had power of his own as well. Though that didn't help him much when the Templars came for his head.

[Sharn01]

Ziggeh wrote...

Ugh. Inappropriate use of their. Now I have to wear the special hat.

Heh, you are forgiven, I pretty much ingore proper grammer on the boards and type so fast I leave a ton of typo's.

[Ziggeh]

Sharn01 wrote...

Heh, you are forgiven. I pretty much ignore correct grammar on the boards and type so fast I leave a ton of typo's.

I try to, and am generally forgiving in others, but I pride myself on proper pedantry. Also alliteration.

[David Gaider]

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

[Dhiro]

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Well, there's not much info and we got bored, and then some guy come and said Templar sucks, and I had to defend my Gregoir-baby and his probably lover Irving so... yeah! That's about Meredith.

[Maria Caliban]

David Gaider wrote...

Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked?

Any character connected to the Templars or Chantry will inspire this debate. I recall having it years before the game came out.

Is she your character?

[October Sixth]

Dhiro wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Well, there's not much info and we got bored, and then some guy come and said Templar sucks, and I had to defend my Gregoir-baby and his probably lover Irving so... yeah! That's about Meredith.

Not to side-track a side-track, but where is this implied/stated?

[Dhiro]

October Sixth wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Well, there's not much info and we got bored, and then some guy come and said Templar sucks, and I had to defend my Gregoir-baby and his probably lover Irving so... yeah! That's about Meredith.

Not to side-track a side-track, but where is this implied/stated?

I have a ****ed-up mind, just so you know. In fact, I'm pairing you with Dave of Canada right now.

[Sharn01]

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Good answers, and since I know nothing of Merideth so far other then speculation I actually like the course the thread has taken.  Unforunately I need to get in bed for work tomorrow because I would love to stay here and debate this some more, particuarly since you have taken and interest in the conversation and have more insight into the world then the rest of us.  Maybe I can catch you in this mood again sometime in the future.

[October Sixth]

Dhiro wrote...

October Sixth wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Well, there's not much info and we got bored, and then some guy come and said Templar sucks, and I had to defend my Gregoir-baby and his probably lover Irving so... yeah! That's about Meredith.

Not to side-track a side-track, but where is this implied/stated?

I have a ****ed-up mind, just so you know. In fact, I'm pairing you with Dave of Canada right now.

At least I'm not paired with a smelly American

[Dhiro]

October Sixth wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

October Sixth wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Sharn01 wrote...
Forcing people into a life of imprisonment and slavery is punishment.  I am sure back when slavery was common in the real world there where a lot of slaves who where happy with their lot in life, as I am sure there where as many nice and pleasant masters as there where brutal and abusive ones, that doesnt mean that it wasnt a life forced on them with no choice of their own.

Imprisonment, sure, but I'm not sure you can equate the mages to being slaves. Their life is not their own, but they are not servants to anyone.

Not to mention the fact that the mages are not even allowed to love or have families, they are denied that right, if a relationship is discovered the mages are separated, and if a child is born in is taken from them.

Relationships are only discouraged because fraternization inside such a closed community can make things quite complicated. It's not technically forbidden, though marriages generally aren't allowed. As for families, that's discouraged for the same reason -- not least of which is that it makes the mage much more susceptible to demonic influence. Remember Connor? Manipulating someone through the people they care about is the oldest trick in the book for demons.

In my eyes its a very easy answer,and that answer is that it is punishment.

I'm certain that easy answers to complex problems can never go wrong.

Incidentally, isn't this thread about Meredith? Or is this sort of debate the thing that's going to pop up simply because the templars have been invoked? Not that I mind, it's a decent discussion, but not particularly related to Meredith.

Well, there's not much info and we got bored, and then some guy come and said Templar sucks, and I had to defend my Gregoir-baby and his probably lover Irving so... yeah! That's about Meredith.

Not to side-track a side-track, but where is this implied/stated?

I have a ****ed-up mind, just so you know. In fact, I'm pairing you with Dave of Canada right now.

At least I'm not paired with a smelly American

Oh, I'd show you my Gaider x Sylvius, but I deleted it when I noticed that Dinosaur David was out of character.

Maybe I shouldn't write in the forums at 04:00 AM.

[Calla S]

As someone mentioned it, it does make me wonder. Who wrote Meredith?

[Maria Caliban]

Now that I think of it, maybe Isabela is 'spirit joined.' That would be sort of cool.

Dhiro wrote...

Oh, I'd show you my Gaider x Sylvius, but I deleted it when I noticed that Dinosaur David was out of character.

Maybe I shouldn't write in the forums at 04:00 AM.

Please, it's Sylvius x In Exile (Virgil).

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 janvier 2011 - 07:20 .

[David Gaider]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Is she your character?

Who, Meredith? Absolutely.

[Dhiro]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

Oh, I'd show you my Gaider x Sylvius, but I deleted it when I noticed that Dinosaur David was out of character.

Maybe I shouldn't write in the forums at 04:00 AM.

Please, it's Sylvius x In Exile (Virgil).

Marvellous! I must write this right away! I will give a new meaning to Dungeons and Dragons

[Maria Caliban]

David Gaider wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
Is she your character?

Who, Meredith? Absolutely.

If Cassandra and Meredith got into a fight, would Meredith kick Cass' backside to Orlais and back?