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[Whanmakt]

So was goin to buy 800 bioware points, so i could buy Lair of the Shadowbroker for PC,  when i saw they cost $72:60. Kinda turned me off. For the same ammount of money i can either buy the new PS3 edition, or 2½ Collectors Edition PC versions here in Sweden. No way im paying this price for a DLC. Any plans on lowering the price?

[EDIT]After goin past the first page where the prices is stated in $ just before placing order it seems its 72:60 SEK per 800 points. So display error on first page i guess.. Will try order at home later with just 100 SEK on card.

Can now comfirm that the first page showing $ is wrong my cc was charged the correct ammount in SEK.

Modifié par Whanmakt, 17 janvier 2011 - 07:20 .

[Virre85]

So, wondering as a fellow Swede, how much is 800 bioware points in SEK? How much will I be charged?

[Stensig]

I can confirm this.

At the main page its says that 400 points cost 25 $. But if i continue to next page, it makes it to 25 DDK (danish). So i guess its a display bug. I haven't tried ordering yet, but i will tomorrow. I'll update about the actually charge amount.

[Zinras]

It's a display bug and one that might be costing them a lot of money in missed sales. I was talking to my aussie friend while showing him this and it was 12 dollars or whatever for 800 points, while mine displayed 51.90 dollars (Which equals 288 DKK, assuming US dollars).

After going to verification it shows the actual amount in DKK:

"Order Total: 51.90 kr"

So Bioware or EA might want to fix this before they'll be completely unable to sell DLC to anyone that doesn't natively use dollars

Modifié par Zinras, 20 janvier 2011 - 07:39 .

[Stensig]

yeah, just tried buying 400 points. I only get billed for 25 DDK. So its a pure display bug.



But i agree, BW will lose quite some money if they don't fix it, since if its the first time ppl buy a DLC they won't know that it wasn't always showed to be that expensive, therefore properly won't try to google it, thus just not wanna buy it.

[Fazzan]

Yeah lucky I found this thread 'cause it said 145 dollars for 1600 points. A price that is just INSANE. But yes it changed to local currency once I chose what payment method to use.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:22 .

[Loerwyn]

mkig39 wrote...

Anyway, the price is still high. I have bought PC version of Mass Effect 2 for 14.99 euros. The price of 1600 points is the same and allows me to buy just two of the three big DLCs. If I compare what does the original game offer and what does two DLCs offer, the result is that those DLCs are either overpriced or not worth the money.

Or you could just not compare the price of DLC with a full game. They're different things.

Modifié par OnlyShallow89, 30 janvier 2011 - 01:41 .

[Lumikki]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Or you could just not compare the price of DLC with a full game. They're different things.

X hour for entertaiment cost Z and if You get Y hour enterteiment, then you just calculate how much it should cost.

Y*Z/X = cost of Y


How ever, this thread was about visual money error in web-page caused by local country setting when dealing different currency. Meaning it shows $ even if the amount is in local currency.

Modifié par Lumikki, 30 janvier 2011 - 02:04 .

[Loerwyn]

Lumikki wrote...
X hour for entertaiment cost Z and if You get Y hour enterteiment, then you just calculate how much it should cost.

Y*Z/X = cost of Y

No, because DLC isn't a game. There's different costs to be considered, not to mention that it sells to a smaller audience so to break even on the cost of making DLC, the price often has to be higher. 

Either way, my point is you can't base the price of DLC on the price of a game. It doesn't work like that at all.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:22 .

[Loerwyn]

mkig39 wrote...

Yeah, DLC is not a game. It is just additional content, so is should be much more cheaper than the full game. Just because you dont have to build new world, new graphics, new tools for programmers and you dont have to pay big advertisement. And the time of gameplay is also much shorter. You cant deny that.

Yeah, they just have to rehire the voice actors, write it, create the new objects for the world (A lot of the ME2 DLC does use original content ontop of existing parts), make sure it's balanced, test it, bugfix it, market it. Yeah, cheap as chips, really.

DLC is cheaper than the full game, quite a lot so. The price of DLC isn't fluid though, unlike game prices. ME2 released for £30 on PC, and I can easily pick up a copy for £13 or less. Doesn't mean the DLC has 'lost value', though.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:22 .

[Loerwyn]

BioWare don't 'use' EA. BioWare are part of EA, and as such the DLC would be published by.... EA! And you seem to forget that with extra content comes extra support, so that needs to be factored into the cost. The cost of bandwidth and online storage comes into it, too. Yes, some DLC is done alongside the game in terms of recording, but not all. They might need to rerecord lines, they might have come up with a bunch of scripts that need recording for future DLC releases - Either way, the voice talent needs to be paid.

Point is DLC costs what it does, and if you don't like the price then don't complain about it. There's almost always a complete edition a year or two after release, and if money is that important to you then you should just wait for that.

[Lumikki]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Lumikki wrote...
X hour for entertaiment cost Z and if You get Y hour enterteiment, then you just calculate how much it should cost.

Y*Z/X = cost of Y

No, because DLC isn't a game. There's different costs to be considered, not to mention that it sells to a smaller audience so to break even on the cost of making DLC, the price often has to be higher. 

Either way, my point is you can't base the price of DLC on the price of a game. It doesn't work like that at all.

I don't really get you point. You can buy game and get maybe 30 hour entertaiment with cost of Z. If you buy DLC and it extend that entertaiment for 2 hours, why I can't compare the prices?

DLC cost little bit more than full game when you compare what you get. When you buy something, you allways compare what you get for you money. That's how it is. Not repeating , they aren't same. Of course they aren't same, but in both cases they value is in they entertaiment value as how good and long it is for money payed.

Modifié par Lumikki, 30 janvier 2011 - 04:35 .

[Loerwyn]

Lumikki wrote...
I don't really get you point. You can buy game and get maybe 30 hour entertaiment with cost of Z. If you buy DLC and it extend that entertaiment for 2 hours, why I can't compare the prices?

DLC cost little bit more than full game when you compare what you get. When you buy something, you allways compare what you get for you money. That's how it is. Not repeating , they aren't same. Of course they aren't same, but in both cases they value is in they entertaiment value as how good and long it is for money payed.

DLC and Games are two different products and both are subject to different markets, that's why you can't compare them like you are.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:21 .

[Tenshinhan91]

Most of the Dlc, such as Kasumi and Zaeed, and probably Lair of the shadowbroker too, was created at the same time as the main game.

[Loerwyn]

mkig39 wrote...

To different markets? I thought that they were intended for those who bought ME2. I havent noticed that they were stand-alone for those who didnt bu original game. And I still dont understand that "different products". In the end, both are games, DLC is just not a stand alone game, but that does not matter.

DLC sells to a smaller market than a game. A game might sell 3 million copies, but the DLC might sell 700k copies. You should compare DLC to DLC in terms of the market, you shouldn't compare it to the game itself. Because DLC sells to a smaller market and is non-essential to the game, you can't hold it to the same standards as a game. ME2's DLC is worth the money relative to other DLC on the market.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:21 .

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:21 .

[Loerwyn]

mkig39 wrote...
Why are all shops offering discounts? Because their products are not selling well and they want to increase the number of sold products.

You really don't understand sales and marketing, do you?

[hawat333]

mkig39 wrote...

I have recently read that some decisions in Lair of the Shadow Broker might have consequences in ME3, so I would be more careful in using "non-essential".

There wasn't any real decisions to make there.
Of course, if someone romanced Liara in ME1, it can be continued, and there's the injure the hostage or talk it through decision, but they're minor ones. Non-essential, if you like.
Otherwise there were only attitude-decisions, not event ones.

[mkig39]

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Modifié par mkig39, 27 novembre 2011 - 03:21 .