Worst possible plot twist in ME3?
#101
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 12:24
But don't forget ME3 will encompass everything from one and two plus it also written
As a trilogy and there is the cerberus news network and the comics novels and dlc's. So for us
To try and predict ME3 we have to understand content given.
#102
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 12:47
#103
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:17
This.Alaethyr wrote...
Worst possible twist you say?
your LI dies at some point >.
#104
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:19
Followed by this.james1976 wrote...
Worst possible plot twist for me....
Despite all you've done, the drama, the missions, the romance....you still die in the end.
#105
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:21
#106
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:26
#107
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:27
bluewolv1970 wrote...
the virmire "death" comes back as a boss battle
The game doesnt event explain it at all, Its as if Shepard knew all along. Epic final fight ensues.
#108
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:28
Either that or.....
Reapers turn out to have some arbitrary weakness that we use to kill them all (I think someone mentioned a virus earlier...)
#109
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:36
The Flame Knight wrote...
In order to save the galaxy, Shepard must do the horizontal mambo with Udina.
And I have to say, though she might be Paragon, my Shep would seriously consider letting the galaxy burn, if only for a moment.
#110
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 01:52
annihilator27 wrote...
bluewolv1970 wrote...
the virmire "death" comes back as a boss battle
The game doesnt event explain it at all, Its as if Shepard knew all along. Epic final fight ensues.
exactly - kaiden/ashley the uber husk with the entire prothean knowledge in them, possessing every class and power...shepard learns this because the prothean ruin from eden prime is still talking with him...he will 'clarify" with Liara who will then faint and be unavailable for the final battle as she needs to see Dr Chakwas (who due to the dramatic events on the collector base is now addicted to a dangerous combination of medi-gel and ice brandy)...
#111
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 02:05
#112
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 02:12
- Tali dies duo to a hole in her suit.
- Thane dies because of his illnes.
- Jack can't cope with reality and shoots herself in the head.
- Jakob overdoes on steroids and dies.
- Mordin dies out of old age.
- Grunt dies out of old age - it shows up he's aging 1000x faster than a regular Krogan.
- Miranda dies due to a silicon boob implants blocking her arteries after a gunshot.
- Dr. Chakwas drinks herself to death.
- Zaeed shoot himself in the head (again) while cleaning up his precious rifle.
- Kasumi died of hunger because she escaped reality in her graybox.
- Garrus dies during calibrations - his hand got stuck in a cannon.
- Liara shows up to be an Ardakt Yaksomething (check next point).
- Samara goes after Liara and they both die in a battle.
- Legion get's infected with spyware while browsing the extranet and dies.
- Kelly can't stand the post collector trauma and hangs herself naked in Shepard's cabin.
- Joker dies because he broke a rib... OR ALL OF THEM... and one pierced his lung.
- Edi formated herself because she couldn't live without Joker.
- TIM accidentialy swallows a cigarrete and chokes to death.
- Vermire survivor shows up to be a first boss and gets killed by Shepard.
- THEN Shepard dies, gets resurected by the Reapers and then John was a Zombie.
#113
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 02:46
morrie23 wrote...
It was all a dream.
Nothing more to add
#114
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 02:52
#115
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 03:34
I'll throw some randy Alliance/Turian/etc ships to the wolves Destiny Ascension style. I'm heartless like that
#116
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 03:39
#117
Posté 19 janvier 2011 - 05:06
Mr.Kusy wrote...
- Kelly can't stand the post collector trauma and hangs herself naked in Shepard's cabin.
Part of me wants to see this, in front of the dead fish tanks.
What if Shepard turns into a liberal and begins to negotiate a truce with the Reapers?
Modifié par KenLyns, 19 janvier 2011 - 05:09 .
#118
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:08
Alienmorph wrote...
Undertone wrote...
If Shep or LI and bunch of companions don't die at the end I will be pissed.
If there's an "everyone makes it" ending it would be pretty retarded.
Why? It should be the hardest ending to achieve, sure, but not impossible. I'd like to see another Virmire situation eventually, but losing necessairy Shepard and/or 1/2 of the squad during the story's development would be awful...
Uhm simply no. For the same reason why ME2 shouldn't have had "everyone makes it". What's so suicidal about a suicide mission in which everyone makes it. Nothing. It was actually harder to die (or have companions die) then to make it without any casualties.
It's a bloody war and if all the crew makes it without considerable casulties I will be severely dissapointed. This isn't fantasy. And ending in which everyone makes it is ridicilious. And if there is such ending it should be nearly impossible to be done. Also L.I as well as Shepard should have a very good likelihood of not making it and not just having plot armor for the sake of teenage hormon driven fandom. A sacrifice to save the galaxy makes it much more significant and deeper. If everyone survives in ME3 the Reaper invasion would become a total joke.
#119
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:15
Undertone wrote...
Alienmorph wrote...
Undertone wrote...
If Shep or LI and bunch of companions don't die at the end I will be pissed.
If there's an "everyone makes it" ending it would be pretty retarded.
Why? It should be the hardest ending to achieve, sure, but not impossible. I'd like to see another Virmire situation eventually, but losing necessairy Shepard and/or 1/2 of the squad during the story's development would be awful...
Uhm simply no. For the same reason why ME2 shouldn't have had "everyone makes it". What's so suicidal about a suicide mission in which everyone makes it. Nothing. It was actually harder to die (or have companions die) then to make it without any casualties.
It's a bloody war and if all the crew makes it without considerable casulties I will be severely dissapointed. This isn't fantasy. And ending in which everyone makes it is ridicilious. And if there is such ending it should be nearly impossible to be done. Also L.I as well as Shepard should have a very good likelihood of not making it and not just having plot armor for the sake of teenage hormon driven fandom. A sacrifice to save the galaxy makes it much more significant and deeper. If everyone survives in ME3 the Reaper invasion would become a total joke.
I see your point, that's why I'm not against another Virmire, as I said. Some lossess or defections? Fine, there's a big guddamn war incoming, but forcing us in the endig in something like Save Shepard but Kill Most of the Team vs Kill Shepard and the LI to Save the Others, would be p!ssfull.
#120
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:26
#121
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:29
MysticMage44 wrote...
Shep being a robot of some kind.
Shep sacrificing his life to save the galaxy.
Shep having to choose between saving the earth or his LI.
Shep finding some sort of magical item that lets him defeat the reapers in one shot. (ie a virus, some sort of prothean tech, etc)
Apart from the robot one I'd say the other three are likely.
They may kill of Shepard, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a possibility anyway.
I am not sure if it would be Earth or LI, but the decision to save LI or save many seems a possibility.
Considering how hard a single Reaper is to kill with an entire fleet, I don't see how they can destroy thousands of them otherwise.
Undertone wrote...
This isn't fantasy.
Yes it is... it's fiction.
Granted if everyone survives then it'd be that much harder to suspend the disbelief. I don't think killing off a LI just for the sake of drama would be any better than having them survive to please the fans.
Killing off beloved characters is the most cliche way of creating tension and drama in any fictional setting. It's what the creators of Gears of War 2 and Halo 3 couldn't grasp. Killing them didn't magically make the story any deeper because their deaths made very little sense and didn't fit in with the story overall.
I agree some should die, but only if it truly fits in with the story.
Modifié par Machines Are Us, 20 janvier 2011 - 10:41 .
#122
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:39
#123
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:43
In this case, we agree. I'd like to see Shepard heroically rise from the ruins of the battle with most of the team still with him (or at least with the LI) but as I said first of all should be the hardest ending to be achieved, and secondary even in that case I don't wanna a Star Wars like-ending with everyone happy and smiling while fireworks explodes in the skyUndertone wrote...
Obviously there should be choices towards who dies and when. But if everyone makes it, it would be ridiculous. Kind of like ME2 suicide mission. Luckily I can kill some (most) of my crew to make it more dramatic. The problem is that it's by my actions, I actually have to work to kill my own companions, put the "wrong" choices on purpose.
Machines Are Us wrote...
MysticMage44 wrote...
Shep being a robot of some kind.
Shep sacrificing his life to save the galaxy.
Shep having to choose between saving the earth or his LI.
Shep finding some sort of magical item that lets him defeat the reapers in one shot. (ie a virus, some sort of prothean tech, etc)
Apart from the robot one I'd say the other three are likely.
They may kill of Shepard, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a possibility anyway.
I am not sure if it would be Earth or LI, but the decision to save LI or save many seems a possibility.
Considering how hard a single Reaper is to kill with an entire fleet, I don't see how they can destroy thousands of them otherwise.
Yep, these are all likely possibilities. One of the thing I'm most scared as hell is Shepard VS LI... if one of them have to die, I wanna make sure that the other will remain at his/her side 'till the end, even if this means that they'll both be doomed.
Modifié par Alienmorph, 20 janvier 2011 - 10:44 .
#124
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 10:43
#125
Posté 20 janvier 2011 - 11:09
Shepard defeats the Reapers with the POWER OF LOVE!
That would be really stupid.





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