Arijharn wrote...
I think there could be limitations as to some sort endeavours their performing and their actual relevance to the Reaper threat. Say they are looking at more efficient car engines to make the next hovercar a result of human 'triumph' in an industry otherwise monopolized by the Asari... how does that benefit Shephard's mission?
They just going to throw one in the hold of the Normandy and occupy the spare shuttle port?
I kinda think they should. It would be nice if Shepard didn’t have to take a taxi everytime he’s on Illium. I’m just sayin’.
There’s a limit to the technical detail any sane commander would want to know about the equipment he uses. There is still a difference between top-level access and full-access.
To stick with the same example, should an aircar be delivered to the Normandy, Shepard should have the right/ability to access full technical schematics on the thing and to contact the team in charge of producing said aircar to ask any questions.
If such an aircar is not on the Normandy, Shepard should be informed only that the project exists in the most general sense. One sentence, half a sentence even “automotive research ongoing.”
You missed my point. Shephard is in the spotlight. Why would a secret organisation want to also be in the spotlight? I know Jacob says something about the collector mission might mean that Cerberus is remembered differently (however; looking at the responses on this forum I would imagine the answer is quite obviously to the contrary) but Jacob also isn't the head of Cerberus.
OH, I see what you’re saying.
The shadows have served Cerberus and TIM well for years and years, but the idea of forever remaining in the shadows while at the same time fending off a Reaper invasion seems… problematic.
In that case don’t take it as a condemnation, but as a challenge! A challenge for Cerberus to become what we all know they can and should become: a champion of humans everywhere!
And when the Council and their ilk shriek with cries of “terrorist!” and “criminal!” Throw it right back in their faces! Not their misdeeds, but your heroism. Remind them of the lives you’ve saved (including theirs), and how the weapons that will save them will come from Cerberus’ efforts.
To misquote Wrex, Cerberus must say to the asari, turians and salarians (and the Alliance ftm): “We will drag your people to survival whether they like it or not!” If Cerberus is to have a future, this should be it.
I agree that he wont necessarily reveal everything about his operations, but because the Reapers also represent an existential threat to him and his operations, I think he will reveal pertinent information. I don't need to know, for example, if one Cerberus cell is researching ways to make the O-E compound more effective unless the Reapers started to mass deploy Biotics... in which case I will only need to know about the compound, how to use it, and where to pick up more of it. He does not need to know about the logistics or whatever. Compartmentalisation!
Good point, let me think about this some more.
He needs to know about things as they become relevant, but not beforehand. TIM needs to tell Shephard about Cerberus' activities as they pertain to the Reapers, but Shephard doesn't need to know anything else about Cerberus' activities.
If you are a military officer responsible for the tactical planning of an assault on the Korean peninsula, do you also need to know anything about tactical planning of say the Middle East? I would imagine you wouldn't, and you'd only become aware of said planning if your higher ups thought it was relevant to your operations. Of those things you could become aware of though; I doubt it would be minutiae details however, which, unless I'm reading you wrong, seem to be what you're suggesting.
Such is the way of our kind that we can never truely know what another is thinking. As the whole purpose of this forum is to exchanage(and to form) ideas on Mass Effect, I see nothing wrong with clarifying or asking for clarification for anything.
To use the same example, military commanders in one theatre are routinely kept abreast of the movement of forces into and out of other theatres, since it affects the forces/resources available to them. Not at a tactical level mind you, but a strategic one. But keeping all senior leaders informed of the general disposition of forces is par for the course as I understand.
In order to be proactive military commanders MUST know about things before they become relevant.
My point being however, is that I can not trust Shephard's full intentions as much as he can't trust mine. This is true, even if Zulu was Commander Shephard. Why? Because even in this case Zulu isn't an actual Cerberus employee. He hasn't signed the NDA, he hasn't signed the employee contract so to speak. He is an associate. I trust zulu to get the job done, and I'd pass him all the information I think is relevant... but I also have to assume that many stuff isn't relevant, and that he doesn't need to know about them.
This isn't the same thing though as thinking 'hmm, xyz, is relevant but I don't want to tell Shephard because he uploaded Rawling's data to Shephard's private data terminal on the Normandy as opposed to just forwarding it to Cerberus Command' and it doesn't presuppose that I can't change my mind either if more information comes to light.
It's the reason why you are only notified about the Derelict Reaper operation after Horizon, as opposed to beforehand, despite the fact that obviously the DR as an operation has existed for quite some time.
You can trust TIM when he says he wants to defeat the Reapers. Should he not, at a minimum, extend to you the same level of trust and include you on the plans to thwart the Reapers?
Regardless, let me ask you this: At the start of ME2, when Shepard and TIM are first forming their relationship, whose the senior partner of the two, 'who's holding all the cards?'
I have to say it's TIM. As such, does the onus not fall more on him to build a strong relationship?
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