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[Vaenier]

CSM31 wrote...

As well as individual choices possibly having bad consequences it is also possible that it is going to be the net effect of several choices that can have really dire consequences, with the most easily forseable being what role the Geth play.

Imagine the following set of choices

Legion: Loyalty mission not done, Dead or sold to cereberus
Tali Loyalty: -Not done or Paragon route with fathers data kept secret advised not to go to war
Project Overlord: Not done or Paragon route, project shut down

With this set of choices it is very likely that the Geth will be on the side of the reapers with no countermeasure, if however the Renegade route is taken in the Tali loyalty or Project Overlord missions then a countermeasure is possible

I have to disagree. I believe the Geth had a fleet ready to attack at that point. Its only logical to have a backup plan. The fleet would incur alot more losses for the Geth though, so they wanted to avoid that with the stealthy Normandy attack. If you dont do that mision, the Geth move in and after a long battle, blow up the station with their ships, destroying the virus. I would also like to add they would have jammed the bases communications, so the virus could not be used as a counter attack. this jamming would also jam their backup ability, and thus actually mean the death of many geth programs in battle.

[Aggie Punbot]

Asheer_Khan wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Do we really need to have this discussion?

it's obvious that our "peace loving" renegades will fell bad if they don't procure thread like this from time to time...<_<

Naw, it's more like evening the field. If we can have a thread titled 'What Renegade choices are likely to bite you in the *** in ME3?' then it's only fair to have one for Paragons. Nothing more, nothing less.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 18 janvier 2011 - 12:06 .

[ZachForrest]

Definitely blowing up collector base. Woulda kept it if i wasn't gona get a load of earache from the crew about it.

[Prince of Kemet]

Letting Rana Thanoptis go..............AGAIN!!!

[Destroy Raiden_]

Oh! Virmire girl! I was so disappointed to see her at her old ways again if I find her again in ME3 in a questionable line of work after getting all the info I can out of her BW can I shoot her? At least let me give her a nasty wound that will remind her always that she needs out of her questionable views of helping and charity.



Sparing Melon



Protecting Tali and her father I imagine Xen goes crazy and uses her father’s research to hack the geth and put the Quarians inches from total war and Shep has to stop her and save both parties.



Recruiting Jack I just broke a convict out of prison and she’ll most likely run off and do more illegal things in ME3.



Not letting Thane’s son to kill that politician



Electing Udina



Letting that Eclipse girl get away ( the one crying in a hidden room)



Working for TIM sure not my choice but that’s gotta count in ME3



Destroying the geth



Allowing Kasumi to keep her box but hey I keep the data on Cerberus for myself for blackmail purposes!



Not killing Miranda

[flem1]

aryon69 wrote...

It isn't like we let loose the most vile criminals

Well, there's Jack.  And that Batarian.

[InvaderErl]

To answer the question posed destroying the Collector base seems the most obvious.

My "theory" is that there will be a score of all the major decisions and if you made all the "right" ones it'll make the final battle against the Reapers easier.

Saving the Council would raise your score while Destroying the Collector base would lower it for example.

Saving the Rachni is +, but saving the Heretics would lower the score

Things like that.

And the penalty for having too low a score is that Shepard is still able to defeat the Reapers but at major cost (his life perhaps).

Modifié par InvaderErl, 18 janvier 2011 - 07:14 .

[jma2286]

Killing the Council is the stuff of civil wars. While Shepard is just a Spectre who advised the Alliance to go one way or the other, xenophobia runs in all race's engines. Their leaders being killed when they could have been saved is considered a coup d'etat. If you save them, you're a damned hero regardless of how many heads you crush.



Blowing up the base might be because of the fact that Cerberus would open up and learn everything about the base and its technology. That doesn't change the stability or lack thereof of using technology that is designed to mind-control organic beings and decompose them into shock troops or reaper construction serum.



Everything else is just semantics.

[Sandbox47]

Boom of the bug base. And leaving Miranda alive.

[starkiller559]

i have a feeling that the true geth are going to have a huge role in ME3

[lovgreno]

I got the feeling that Shepards a** won't be severily bitten whatever paragon or renegade choices we make.

But to answer the question: Helping Legions geth may have very severe consequences, especialy for the quarians. Keeping the Genophage cure may also have bad consequences for everyone getting in the way of the krogan hordes, but that is probably a problem in the longer perspective than ME3.

[Suron]

like I said in the other thread. NOTHING. Anything that is mentioned from previous game choices will be FLAVOR ONLY.



they're not going to make something from a game, much less 2 games, back be the defining factor in ME3.



At BEST you'll get a more favorable cutscene/dialogue...that's IT..the END OUTCOME WILL BE THE SAME.



you've lost your mind if you think saving the Rachni/Collector base (or any other decision from ME1-2) is going to have a defining outcome in ME3 that will mean the difference between winning or losing against the Reapers. Lost. Your. Minds.

[Sajuro]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Do we really need to have this discussion?

Yes, it is but a prelude to the butthurt that will occur when Paragons are not punished for everysmall thing they have done in ME3
mark my words well (there's a bookmark function )

[Jzadek72]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Do we really need to have this discussion?

it's obvious that our "peace loving" renegades will fell bad if they don't procure thread like this from time to time...<_<

Naw, it's more like evening the field. If we can have a thread titled 'What Renegade choices are likely to bite you in the *** in ME3?' then it's only fair to have one for Paragons. Nothing more, nothing less.

That one was stupid too. This isn't evening the fields, it's ****** for tat, and that's even more childish than the thread would be otherwise.

[Aggie Punbot]

Sajuro wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Do we really need to have this discussion?

Yes, it is but a prelude to the butthurt that will occur when Renegades are not punished for everysmall thing they have done in ME3

Fixed that for you.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:28 .

[Spectre_907]

The only paragon choice I can see directly coming back to haunt you, specifically, is destroying the Collector's base. Anything else that could have negative consequences seem irrelevant or too ambiguous to tell.

[JuicElawl]

should have punched that damn reporter.

[Aigyl]

Never quite got the Paragon vs. Renegade wars. I mean, they're both really fun to play. Paragon gives you warm fuzzy feelings and funny Charm options, Renegade gives you cool feats of badassery and hilarious one-liners.

Anyhow, to play ball I'm betting keeping the Greybox is a mistake. I really wanna know what's on there but it's not going to do any favours for Kasumi. More people may come after her and there's signs she might start to just live in the past with the memories of her dead lover.

[Nerevar-as]

Letting Balak go. Capturing him is the only major Renegade choice I made sometimes in ME1.

Destroying the Collector Base. Besides using it to make other Reapers, anything is better than the alternative.

Rewriting Geth. No idea, they could have switched P/R options here as they are both rather bad.

I have doubts with the Krogan cure. But it´s a good prize to convince the Krogans to defend Earth, more even if Wrex is dead.

About the Greybox, if bad consequences for the Alliance result from this they are likely deserved. My guess it that it´s the data on Sovereign from the Revelation novel.

[azerSheppard]

Saving private Conrad. He turns out to be an intergalactic agent of a reaper known as Galactus, who eats pieces of "chocolate" like the milky-way for breakfast.

[Lunatic LK47]

Sparing the Rachni may be bad due to Indoctrination. Hope it doesn' happen, otherwise the choice is meaningless.

[Zubie]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Do we really need to have this discussion?

Yes, it is but a prelude to the butthurt that will occur when Renegades are not punished for everysmall thing they have done in ME3

Fixed that for you.

I doubt most paragon players would care.

[Vinix Tea]

The best guess is really that you won't know for sure until you play ME3. In my personal case, i was super confused about what to do with what, specifically with destroying the Genophage data [i did], Re-writing the Geth [i did], and blowing up the Collector base [i did]. The best I could think of was to just play through on many different accounts, and see what happened when I finally got ME3. [I love the game enough, and have that much free time on my hands, to do that.] With varying options, like destroying everything, keeping everything, and then different variations of what i should do. A long process, but fun to experiment with, nonetheless. For me it was either do that, or be completely and totally unsatisfied with what i did in my ME2 games and start all over. But i guess in the end, it really depends.

[Arijharn]

I want consequences for my paragon and renegade to be sure... there shouldn't be such a thing as a 'perfect' outcome.



For paragon though; I would definitely like to see Corporal Toombs as a nice fitting consequence. You free him from Dr. Wayne's 'tender ministrations' and I'd like him to go crazy and try to kill you in ME3... bonus marks if he attempts it several times, but eventually it gets to a point where he either kills you or you kill him, because he can't trust anything you say anymore since you turned out to be a 'Cerberus lackey' anyway.

[Bluko]

Rewriting the Geth seems like a bad idea.

I've doubt we've seen the last of the Heretics. Would be hilarious if that one decision had a mjaor blowback for Paragons as all the Geth become Heretics. Well that is unlikely, but I'm guessing there will be rogue Geth to deal with still even in ME3.

Modifié par Bluko, 19 janvier 2011 - 03:36 .