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[Mercuriol]

It should also have a romance scene like Attack of the Clones...

[CroGamer002]

^And some stupid kid ruining franchise!

[thegreateski]

And then both TIM and Shepard would bow to their dark master, Revan.

[klossen4]

and have Tim screeming POWER ULTIMATE POWER!!!!

[Ahriman]

thegreateski wrote...

And then both TIM and Shepard would bow to their dark master, Revan.

Shepard is Revan.

Anyway would be funny to see this:

Councilor Velarn: Thank you for what you've done for us, and sorry for all that.
Shepard: Ah, forget it. Order 66.
Asari councilor: Accepted.
Councilor Velarn: What the ...
*gunshot*
...
Shepard: Citizens, Turian councilor was a Reaper agent and tried to kill me...

[Saren100]

The only thing that would suck is if in the next game spinoff they make it so cannon revan I mean shep became good again. Like in the old republic game.

[klossen4]

which they will trust me

[GnusmasTHX]

But... What about the younglings!

[Saren100]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

But... What about the younglings!

Every single biotic is now an enemy of the republic.

[Ahriman]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

But... What about the younglings!

Shepard: Garrus, take those geth and do what you must.

[Fixers0]

Shepard speech at the End of ME 3 To the Alliance,

The war is over. The Reapers have been eliminated. And the Alien rebellion has been foiled.

We stand on the threshold of a new beginning The remaining Aliens will be hunted down and defeated.Any collaborators will suffer the same fate.

These have been trying times, but we have passed the test. The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed. But, I assure you, my resolve has never been stronger.

In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Council will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire for a safe and secure society.

Anderson, Udina and Hackett applauding

Modifié par Fixers0, 19 janvier 2011 - 07:32 .

[Saren100]

Fixers0 wrote...

Shepard speech at the End of ME 3 To the Alliance,

The war is over. The Reapers have been eliminated. And the Alien rebellion has been foiled.

We stand on the threshold of a new beginning The remaining Aliens will be hunted down and defeated.Any collaborators will suffer the same fate.

These have been trying times, but we have passed the test. The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed. But, I assure you, my resolve has never been stronger.

In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Council will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire for a safe and secure society.

Anderson, Udina and Hackett applauding

Thats a good ending too

I still like mine more though


Shepard strides into tims room on his unnamed space station.
TIM - Shepard im glad to see you, we need to talk
Shep - Yes we do
TIM - We have a great opportunity shepard, a chance to re write the mistakes of the past
Shep - Im listening
TIM - X years ago you let the council die and then you and ambassador Udina did your best to take over the council, unfortunatly you failed then, humans gained control but it didnt change much we have the chance to re write that mistake.
Shep - What do you have in mind?
TIM - The coalition of fleets you assembled was wiped out in the final battle with the reapers our ships managed to slip away we still have a large force of loyal troops where as the council does not. If we move now no one could stop us.
Shep - How many soldiers do we have here because C sec...
TIM interrupts - you will have more then enough slowly but surely humans have been putting themselves into many positions within c sec they will not hinder you. I will tell the captains that the aliens have tried to turn on humanity they will order there men to wipe out the remaining aliens in csec as well as any specters on the citadel.
Shepard - Sounds good but what happens after.
TIM - We form a united Empire much like the protheans once were an empire which will be led by me and you.
Shepard - We better get started soon before the council can reorganize
TIM - I already have my private fleet waiting at the arcturas relay ready to jump to the citadel they await my orders.
Shepard - I want the Normandy to lead that fleet.
TIM - Well you better hurry up then
Shepard - I will talk to you soon

Cutscene ensues showing shepard and crew leaving the station and flying to the nearest relay.

Shepard stands in the bridge awaiting the jump when the team comes up to him.
Mordin - Shepard whats going on?
Grunt - Yea shepard where are we going now?
Tali - Im also curious...
Shepard - TIM has given me a new mission we are going to the citadel, their is about to be a major restructuring in the way the galaxy is run.
Mordin - How So? What are we doing?
Shepard - We Mordin? sorry this mission involves no aliens.
Tali - What do you mean shepard?
Shepard signals cerberus troops
Samara - What are we doing commander?
Shepard - We are taking over... Cerberus is taking over...
Garrus - WHAT?
Shepard - We are flying to arcturas to meet up with the cerberus fleet then we will storm the citadel.
Tali - Its not true... Its Impossible.
Shepard - Either your with me... Or your my enemy.
Garrus - I will join you shepard, you are my friend and ally
Tali - I am also with you shepard.
Grunt - You are my battlemaster I will go where you go.
Samara - I cannot fight my own kind I will not join
Mordin - I concur it would be most unwise for me to betray my species
Thane - This isnt the right path shepard
Miranda and Jacob - Were with you and the Illusive man Shepard.
Zaeed - I might as well go along with you, Im in.
Kasumi - Im with you shep.
Legion - Geth support this shepard.
Samara/Mordin/Thane all start backing away from the group
Shepard signals the cerberus troops to fire
The three aliens drop dead
Shepard - Any more questions
Miranda - None Commander.
Shepard - Good then get ready

Cutscene continues Normandy joins up with the fleet they go through the relay to the citadel
cutscene continues them boarding the citadel
Get to council chambers

Udina - Shepard whats going on
Shepard - Were doing something you failed to do all those years ago, Were taking over
Udina - What do you mean?
Shepard - join us or die.
Udina - fine I will join you.
Shepard - Good I didnt want to have to shoot you

Shepard and troops then continue to citadel cutscene happens showing shep and soldiers marching up the stairs to the council chambers.

Turian Ambassador - Whats happening
Asari - The humans are attacking
Salarian - But why?

Shepard - No time for answers, he shoots them all in the head.

Cutscene happens showing c sec and cerberus forces wiping out aliens left and right.

TIM is waiting shepards message, Shepard appears to tim on the holograph platform.
TIM - Has everything gone to plan.
Shepard - The councils gone, Udina has joined our side
TIM - Good, I will be releasing a broadcast to every species and planet telling them whats happened and what will happen if they dont submit.

Cutscene occurs showing TIM speaking his message across many alien worlds viewing screens.

Game ends with shepard standing over the bodies of the dead council

Now the real work begins...

End game

Modifié par Saren100, 19 janvier 2011 - 10:21 .

[FOZ289]

Shouldn't have come here.



And let's not talk about Revenge of the Sith.

[Mr. Sniper Rifle]

But... Revenge of the Sith was ...terrible...

[pprrff]

maw ha ha. Very good idea, except dark side Shepard should pay heavy prices for this ending, he will have to fight off most of his crew.



The only ones that would even follow Shepard by default should be Legion, Grunt and Morinth. Maybe you LI will follow you but only if you have previously hardened them into accepting your action.

[James2912]

Come on guys this doesn't have to be Revenge of the Sith Redox. what I mean is a bad ass coup ending for renegades.



And pprff I like how you think!

[Vaenier]

Why does overthrowing the council mean you have to make an evil human empire? Why cant you overthrow the council and start a galactic republic to bring equality and freedom to the masses. The council is too stupid to live. But replacing them with an oppressive dictatorship is dumb.

Also, why do so many people want Renegade to be evil? Are humans all just dicks on the inside who would do evil acts if they were free from repercussions?

[Mr. Sniper Rifle]

Vaenier wrote...

Why does overthrowing the council mean you have to make an evil human empire? Why cant you overthrow the council and start a galactic republic to bring equality and freedom to the masses.

You mean like the freedom the masses have now under their current governent, with the Council in a diplomatic oversight position?

Truly the Council is the most dangerous threat this galaxy has ever faced! /sarcasm

Modifié par Mr. Sniper Rifle, 19 janvier 2011 - 11:24 .

[Vaenier]

Mr. Sniper Rifle wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Why does overthrowing the council mean you have to make an evil human empire? Why cant you overthrow the council and start a galactic republic to bring equality and freedom to the masses.

You mean like the freedom the masses have now under their current governent, with the Council in a diplomatic oversight position?

Truly the Council is the most dangerous threat this galaxy has ever faced! /sarcasm

Ignoring Geth. Being racists to Quarians. Not allowing other races any say in galactic decisions. Stagnation. Using races like Krogan so their own races dont have to die. Not helping other races defend themselves. Pushing humans to colonise a unstable region of the galaxy because they want the good planets for themselves. Outlawing things like AI and genetic engineering because of their own ignorance and fears. Inability to defend themselves from know threats. Zero oversight of their activities.

[Saren100]

Vaenier wrote...

Why does overthrowing the council mean you have to make an evil human empire? Why cant you overthrow the council and start a galactic republic to bring equality and freedom to the masses. The council is too stupid to live. But replacing them with an oppressive dictatorship is dumb.
Also, why do so many people want Renegade to be evil? Are humans all just dicks on the inside who would do evil acts if they were free from repercussions?

The question is why cant we be evil?

The game allows us freedoms of choice and if we want our sheps to be evil we should be allowed.

[Mr. Sniper Rifle]

Vaenier wrote...
Ignoring Geth. Being racists to Quarians. Not allowing other races any say in galactic decisions. Stagnation. Using races like Krogan so their own races dont have to die. Not helping other races defend themselves. Pushing humans to colonise a unstable region of the galaxy because they want the good planets for themselves. Outlawing things like AI and genetic engineering because of their own ignorance and fears. Inability to defend themselves from know threats. Zero oversight of their activities.

In order:
1) The geth were basically forced out of Council space, and while not the best move, they haven't seen a resurgence of geth activity. They also don't have the resources to wipe out the Geth still beyond the Veil.
2)The Council actually listens to evidence provided by a quarian funnily enough. I think your misinterpreting politiccal distancing for racism.
3) There are ambassadors from the other races, and they can adress the Council when necessary. The Council doesn't make totally unilateral decisiions.
4) Wish you would explain what that meant.
5) remember, during the Rachni wars there were no turian peace keeper fleets on patrol. The krogan were necessary to stop the rachni. not pretty , but pragmatic.
5)The Council can't send a fleet after every threat, it assists where it can. But it does expect those who have fleets to defend themselves.
6) And yet humans were able to colonize a system in the Serpent nebula. The Berkenstock/stein system i believe. Very affluent i remember. The Alliance colonizes the Terminus because that's where the unexplored worlds are.
7) You are aware genetic egineering is relatively common in the galaxy in Mass Effect. now extreme engineering is outlawed, but they haven't outlawed it totally. There's a whole sub quest in ME 1 where you discuss it with an expectant mother. And so far AI's have proven for the most part to be incredibly dangerous, geth, the Presidium A.I., and the moon base V.I. that became self aware. They are aware of the risks and act accordingly.
8) Depends on how you define that. if you mean Saren getting into the Citadel, only Shepard knew about that. The fact that a Reaper led the assault on the Citadel, combined with an infiltration by geth didn't help.
9) The Councilors are still beholden to their own governments.

[pprrff]

Vaenier wrote...

Mr. Sniper Rifle wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Why does overthrowing the council mean you have to make an evil human empire? Why cant you overthrow the council and start a galactic republic to bring equality and freedom to the masses.

You mean like the freedom the masses have now under their current governent, with the Council in a diplomatic oversight position?

Truly the Council is the most dangerous threat this galaxy has ever faced! /sarcasm

Ignoring Geth. Being racists to Quarians. Not allowing other races any say in galactic decisions. Stagnation. Using races like Krogan so their own races dont have to die. Not helping other races defend themselves. Pushing humans to colonise a unstable region of the galaxy because they want the good planets for themselves. Outlawing things like AI and genetic engineering because of their own ignorance and fears. Inability to defend themselves from know threats. Zero oversight of their activities.

While I hate to play defense for the council, I think some of charges you leveled are not really fair.

1) The council isn't some cabal that decide fate for everyone. They are like a exclusive club for the big boys (Asari, Turian and Salarian). So it might be more fair to blame the turian or the asari for certain things than to blame the council.

2) Being racist toward Quarian isn't a council problem, it's not as if council official decided an official policy that fanned the hatred, it's more likely that everyone gotten pissed at quarian first and the council reacted to popular pressure.

3) Pushing human to colonize unstable region is actually the only solution. Other speices has been colonizing for century before human came to scene, the good places has probably all been claimed or settled, the council can't exactly evict people to make room for human.

4) Outlawing genetic and AI engineering might be stupid, but it might also be prudent. You lose some of the benefit sure, but you might have also avoided certain disaster. But then again if majority of the people are against genetic and AI engineering, the council might just following the people's wish.

5) The war with Rachni and Krogan proves that council can defend themselves, by various means (open warfare, diplomacy, subterfuge and what not).

6) In practical terms, the domination of the galactic space by a few council species might just be the natural order of things. If human + turian + asasri + salarian combo accounts of vast majority of galactic economy, scientific and military power, then effectively the council does represent everyone that matters.  

Modifié par pprrff, 19 janvier 2011 - 11:49 .

[Suron]

Winterfly wrote...

This is interesting. To see Cerberus capture the citadel when the Council races is in a weakened state after the reaper war.

more like stupid.  The Citadel is a symbol and whatnot...Cerberus would have to take it and KEEP it...sure them taking it back would be hard but what and why would he do this? everyone would magically follow Cerberus? Everyone in the galaxy hates them and doing this would only turn more against humanity as a whole.

dumb idea.  even worse if it happens.  Makes no sense....Cerberus can take it over all they want but they're a relatively small force and they'll be fighting humanity (through the alliance) and the rest of the council races.

think before you barf

[Vaenier]

Mr. Sniper Rifle wrote...

Vaenier wrote...
Ignoring Geth. Being racists to Quarians. Not allowing other races any say in galactic decisions. Stagnation. Using races like Krogan so their own races dont have to die. Not helping other races defend themselves. Pushing humans to colonise a unstable region of the galaxy because they want the good planets for themselves. Outlawing things like AI and genetic engineering because of their own ignorance and fears. Inability to defend themselves from know threats. Zero oversight of their activities.

:lol:In order:
[Yay numbers]

1. I dont expect them to have won, or even to be on the offensive at this point. But they act like they already won and dont even bother to check first. Defensive and struggling and with military propaganda would have been awsome.
2. Quarians are not allowed to have an embasy. That is racist. Those who have made the mistakes of the Geth are long dead, but they hold a grudge against the current Quarians because they are quarians.
3. But they have no voting power, no way to fight a dicision, no other courses of political moves. The council decides everything, they just get to make requests of the council.
4. 2500 years and they barely got anything done. humans come on the scene and threaten them in not even a century of time.
6. I think the writers just dont remember what they are doing. How did a human colony appear on a perfect world in the Citadel cluster itself...
7. medigel is technically illegal. Genetic augmentation of soldiers are so limited, much better effects are not allowed. ai are hostile because organics are hostile to them first. geth were all nice and friendly till quarians decided to kill them all. and the ai on the citadel was hostile because organics made ai illegal. it wanted to leave because organics would kill it. it knew that it would never be allowed to survive if found out.
8. The citadel fleet was unable to defend against a geth fleet it knew was coming. Saren closing the citadel and Sovergein hiding the entire battle does not change this fact that they could not defend.