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[Osena109]

 they want to eat his brains and gain his knowledge

[William Adama]

Voods07 wrote...

Its a simple straight-forward reason. Shepard was responsible for the the Destruction of Sovereign...a reaper. AKA....he was responsible for killing a reaper, so the rest want to take him out solely so he doesn't screw up the "cycle".

In essence, Shepard "knows too much" about the reapers, and it irritates them(Reapers).

Reapers have been destroyed before... look at the Derelict. Do you think that the Reapers were interested in the race responsible for that also?

And Shepard didn't destroy Sovereign, the Alliance did. HUMANS beat 1 Reaper, Shepard defeated Saren.

[SalsaDMA]

William Adama wrote...

Voods07 wrote...

Its a simple straight-forward reason. Shepard was responsible for the the Destruction of Sovereign...a reaper. AKA....he was responsible for killing a reaper, so the rest want to take him out solely so he doesn't screw up the "cycle".

In essence, Shepard "knows too much" about the reapers, and it irritates them(Reapers).

Reapers have been destroyed before... look at the Derelict. Do you think that the Reapers were interested in the race responsible for that also?

And Shepard didn't destroy Sovereign, the Alliance did. HUMANS beat 1 Reaper, Shepard defeated Saren.

It's quite possibly that one of the reapers are in fact remnants of the species that put a giant slug through and killed a reaper previously. No-one knows, but it is certainly a possibility

[JamieCOTC]

Both Shep and the Allaince killed Sovereign.

Saren killed himself, then out of desperation Sovereign transported his consciousness into the Robothopper. Saren was dead. All organic matter not replaced by tech was destroyed when Sovereign seized control. Shepard fought Sovereign and killed him. Had Sovereign merely been controlling the RobotZombieSaren then why did Sovereign collapse when the robothopper died? It makes no sense. Sovereign should have simply severed the connection and still been able to wipe out the Alliance. That is unless he had transported his consciousness into the Saren.

In this event Shepard killed Sovereign's consciousness and the Alliance killed Sovereign's body. They both did it.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 18 janvier 2011 - 05:40 .

[William Adama]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Both Shep and the Allaince killed Sovereign.

Saren killed himself, then out of desperation Sovereign transported his consciousness into the Robothopper. Saren was dead. All organic matter not replaced by tech was destroyed when Sovereign seized control. Shepard fought Sovereign and killed him. Had Sovereign merely been controlling the RobotZombieSaren then why did Sovereign collapse when the robothopper died? It makes no sense. Sovereign should have simply severed the connection and still been able to wipe out the Alliance. That is unless he had transported his consciousness into the Saren.

In this event Shepard killed Sovereign's consciousness and the Alliance killed Sovereign's body. They both did it.

But Reapers are each a legion. How can Shepard destroy Sovereign entirely... they have millions of programs running in the machine at once. I find it hard to believe that Soveriegn was entirely located within the robot hopper! Why not just use projection like Harbinger did?

[Bluko]

I think we all know Harbinger has a bit of a man crush on Shepard.



Harbinger: "SHEPARD... I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS!"

Modifié par Bluko, 19 janvier 2011 - 05:00 .

[Aglazzboi]

Beacause,



Shep, Garrus, Wrex>Reapers



Simple.

[GIJooTheWarHero]

The Reapers believed themselves to be nigh invincible. They might have lost a few in their eons of genocide but they always ended up winning.



Shepard made the Machine Gods bleed. He made them die.



The Machine Gods feel fear.

[Kakistos_]

GIJooTheWarHero wrote...

The Reapers believed themselves to be nigh invincible. They might have lost a few in their eons of genocide but they always ended up winning.

Shepard made the Machine Gods bleed. He made them die.

The Machine Gods feel fear.

The Reapers do not believe that they are invincible. If that was the case then Sovereign would have just attacked the Citidel as soon as it realized that something was wrong with the Keepers. The whole point of the involvement of Saren and the Geth was because Sovereign knew it standed little chance of victory on it's own.

[GIJooTheWarHero]

Invincibility in numbers. Of course they don't think they can take anyone by themselves. Being sentient, near-omnipotent war machines can give you a super sense of security.

[Display Name Owner]

I don't think the Reapers are particularly concerned with Shepard. He's an insect to them, just like everyone else. The only reason Harbinger and the Collectors has an interest was because of the Cipher. Didn't Liara say that somewhere, too? Was it mentioned in Redemption or somewhere (I never read it)? Anyway, don't remember where, but I do remember hearing that the Collectors wanted to run tests on Shep because of the Cipher.



And I think people give Shepard too much credit. He didn't singlehandedly take down Sovereign. Don't get me wrong, he enabled Sovereign's defeat by using the tools the Protheans left behind, and he killed Saren-Husk, which is what seems to have allowed the fleet to destroy Sovereign, but the point is that there were other people involved. If the Reapers cared about that, then why not go after Shepard's old squaddies as well? Especially Liara, since she's the one who basically made Shep able to comprehend the Cipher.

[thedaghdha]

Shepard knocked up harbinger's daughter, and they're out for revenge/child support

[William Adama]

Does anyone else think that Shepard may have the ability to indoctrinate his/her followers because of the Cipher? Think of it... Shepard didn't really have any influence on people until Eden Prime, where the beacon was discovered and used. Shepard gathers allies from ALL the council races in one mission to take down Saren/Sovereign. Fast forward to ME2, same thing happens again in shepards quest to stop the collectors.



Here is the kicker... The Cipher given to Shepard by the Thorian allowed him/her to think like a Prothean, but the Protheans were all indoctrinated and repurposed by the Reapers after the last extinction. Enter the Collectors. The Collectors were all being controlled by Harbinger (Reaper)... could the power of indoctrination have leaked into Shepards brain somehow because of the link Shepard has with the Reapers via the Protheans (Collectors)?



Is that why the Reapers are so afraid of Shepard? Because he/she has the ability to unite ALL the galaxy under one banner against the Reapers? Or maybe Shepard can indoctrinate the Reapers...



Also, what is the role of the Illusive man? What disturbs me about him are his eyes... they are the exact same implants that both Saren and Shepard had/have (ME2). One difference, Shepards eyes can be RED, never BLUE. Does this mean something?

[William Adama]

This explanation could also be used for WHY Shepard can use his/her persuasion skills to overcome impossible situations ie: Sarens end. Because we (Shepard) have the ability to INDOCTRINATE people just like the Reapers, albeit a little more subtle.



This could be why Shepard is so important to everyone... especially the Reapers.

[GalacticTHOR]

Mr.Kusy wrote...
Because everything tells them to jump to that conclusion. Mass Effect 2 nearly whiped the storyline blank when it comes to the whole Reapers idea. You don't learn anything from ME2 and the cipher is not mentioned even once... considering it was the whole axis of the first game, I think it should have been.

It is mentioned kind of, there is a side mission in ME2 where Shepard comes across a fully working Prophean beacon and activates it. He is given a full vision, it is the same vision as in ME1 except SPOILER kinda this one has Collectors in it.

[GalacticTHOR]

The Reapers are interested in Shepard for one very specific reason.... He/She is a badass motherf*cker! Simples!

[Myrmedus]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Both Shep and the Allaince killed Sovereign.

Saren killed himself, then out of desperation Sovereign transported his consciousness into the Robothopper. Saren was dead. All organic matter not replaced by tech was destroyed when Sovereign seized control. Shepard fought Sovereign and killed him. Had Sovereign merely been controlling the RobotZombieSaren then why did Sovereign collapse when the robothopper died? It makes no sense. Sovereign should have simply severed the connection and still been able to wipe out the Alliance. That is unless he had transported his consciousness into the Saren.

In this event Shepard killed Sovereign's consciousness and the Alliance killed Sovereign's body. They both did it.

I always interpreted Sovereign not pulling out of Saren as him being too pissed off and making a bad call - you hear it in Sovereign/Saren's voice when he says "I am Sovereign and this is MY station" that he's angry.

Too vested in the fight and trying to kill Shepard, too arrogant and proud = gets pwned.

[Neoleviathan]

The Reapers did not seem very interested in capturing Shepard alive/dead until even after Cerberus brought him back to life, so I always felt it was something Cerberus did with Shepard that caught their attention. But in the third game seems nothing was really revealed about their reasons for wanting him yet, & I think the Cerberus mission even killed some of the ideas of Shepard being tampered with in a real plot changy kind of way. Oh well. Maybe Omega will have the answer?

[RebelTitan428]

i just finshed playing ME and ME2 over again, and considering how the trilogy ends both ME and ME2's story are pointless.

umm why when the reapers move the citadel over earth did they not shut down the relay network like it was said they did when they gain control of the citadel?. Why did they not at that point isolate individual systems? that would have ensured Shepard and the galaxy's fleet never made it to earth, hense never made it to the beam.
im sure the reapers knew the fleet was coming, considering they had sleeper agents in every race...