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Jesse H. My friend!!! Please look...ME2 huge major flaws, horrid facial emotion during key parts of the game..


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Show exactly what makes them disturbing.. heheh you guys are hilarious. :) You call me an idiot, you say I make ridiculous claims, and that my assertions of half assed.. Yet you don't present one fact....... What does that mean? It means you are afraid.. :)

Ill give you one clue: Read your own posts.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

punt172o wrote...



Show exactly what makes them disturbing.. heheh you guys are hilarious. :) You call me an idiot, you say I make ridiculous claims, and that my assertions of half assed.. Yet you don't present one fact....... What does that mean? It means you are afraid.. :)

Ill give you one clue: Read your own posts.


Same response as before. If you can't present a fact, it means your accusations are baseless. This is pretty rudimentary.. hehe

I'd like to understand you better, but if you don't present something solid, I'll never be able to understand your point of view.

SithLordExarKun,

Let's keep it simple...

Shepard doesn't make eye contact with Jacob. What does this mean to you?

We know from ME1 that Shepard is an alpha, Shepard is dominant, Shepard is a leader........

But Shepard doesn't make eye contact with Jacob?......

Please bro, as a friend.. read this article..

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_contact

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:41 .


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punt172o wrote...



Same response as before. If you can't present a fact, it means your accusations are baseless. This is pretty rudimentary.. hehe

Same response as before: Read your own post.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

punt172o wrote...



Same response as before. If you can't present a fact, it means your accusations are baseless. This is pretty rudimentary.. hehe

Same response as before: Read your own post.


I already responded to your post, with 12 times as many words as your post. 

This means you can't type too fast... What does that say about you? It means you are not very resourceful when it comes to information gathering as the internet is the strongest source of information.

But I won't hold this against you, but I will present this flaw.

Look at our posting timestamps.

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:43 .


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you know i find all the human characters eyes all over the place in ME2 one time i noticed miranda had no pupils

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punt172o wrote...


This means you can't type too fast... What does that say about you?

That I'm not a keyboard warrior whose a loser in real life such as yourself. ;)

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you know i find all the human characters eyes all over the place in ME2 one time i noticed miranda had no pupils


Had I been working for Bioware, that would of NEVER got passed me.

I noticed the same problem in ME1.   You need to always tell the eyes where to look.. And if they don't have any where to look you need to default them to the "look directly in front of you position".. It's obvious they didn't set a default look position so the eyeballs probably kick back into an obscure position.

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

punt172o wrote...


This means you can't type too fast... What does that say about you?

That I'm not a keyboard warrior whose a loser in real life such as yourself. ;)


Is 60wpm too much to ask from you? I will say that your current response was faster than your previous. You're improving based upon my previous challenge. This is good! :)   Believe it or not you are following my alpha leadership patterns. Shepard should show the same patterns by ALWAYS looking into her companions eyes.

Based upon your monitoring of MY thread, I would expect you feel a challenge here. I commend you :)

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:48 .


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Maybe shep has looked away to think for a moment.

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but it also doesn't stop my enjoyment of the game in fact i would have never made a thread about it

Modifié par DinoSteve, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:48 .


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Icinix wrote...

Maybe shep has looked away to think for a moment.


I already took this into consideration. She is always looking down.. :(

I replayed it multiple times. She looks down, with no emotion... :(  *sad*... She should of just stared deep into Jacob's eyes.. Constantly thinking to herself "can i trust him? Can I trust him? WTF Is going on CAN I TRUST HIM???"... Instead her face is mundane, emotionless.. 

The first time you meet someone is always the most important.....
The first time you meet someone is always the most important.....
The first time you meet someone is always the most important.....

It's the little differences that differentiate something from "Great" and "epic". From a 100 rating vs a 92 rating...

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 10:55 .


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but it also doesn't stop my enjoyment of the game in fact i would have never made a thread about it


Good for you. I wish I was you, but I'm not you. I"m someone who has been raised to have a high degree of attention to detail and for me it ruins my immersion.

For you it doesn't because you could care less.. perhaps you only care for combat.. But eye contact is a very important part of my life, yet not important for you..

So don't judge me and I won't judge you.

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Well I don't know if I agree with the first meet being the most important, first impressions sometimes can be incorrect, misjudged even.



Regardless, the only time I noticed it as an issue was when their was a conversation option to choose. Through the general dialogue though I never noticed it rear it's head.

As for the emotion thing, I believe that was more to maintain a neutral Shep to help with the immersion for players, not fight against it. Take for example Alpha Protocol, that game was hard to play through because no matter what you chose, the avatar was a knob.

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punt172o wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

but it also doesn't stop my enjoyment of the game in fact i would have never made a thread about it


Good for you. I wish I was you, but I'm not you. I"m someone who has been raised to have a high degree of attention to detail and for me it ruins my immersion.

For you it doesn't because you could care less.. perhaps you only care for combat.. But eye contact is a very important part of my life, yet not important for you..

So don't judge me and I won't judge you.

While in IRL eye contact is important, i fail to see how eye contact in a game would ruin it for you

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DinoSteve wrote...

punt172o wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

but it also doesn't stop my enjoyment of the game in fact i would have never made a thread about it


Good for you. I wish I was you, but I'm not you. I"m someone who has been raised to have a high degree of attention to detail and for me it ruins my immersion.

For you it doesn't because you could care less.. perhaps you only care for combat.. But eye contact is a very important part of my life, yet not important for you..

So don't judge me and I won't judge you.

While in IRL eye contact is important, i fail to see how eye contact in a game would ruin it for you


Then by that definition you should make all characters in mass effect look straight ahead without focusing on anything and that would be just fine with you.

I'm sorry, but there are people out there with higher standards than you.

You're utter lack of respect for the Mass Effect world is insulting. Unless you say something to push my limits or challenge my intellect, I will no longer respond to you..  Come on bro, give me something to work with here.

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 11:07 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

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LOL HELL YEA... See how interesting that image is? hahaha.. I LOVE IT... This is so interesting, full of emotion and TRUE TO THE WORDS..

didymos1120, you should work for bioware, i'm serious :) You understand :)

Had you been given the chance to control the facial emotion between Jacob & Shepard when meeting for the first time would you of changed anything? ;)  (I'm hoping you've worked with the Dragon Age toolset).

Modifié par punt172o, 18 janvier 2011 - 11:09 .


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i have to laugh at the face shepard makes when garrus tells him about the chick he slept with

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punt172o wrote...

Had I been working for Bioware, that would of NEVER got passed me.


It's 'past' BTW.  Not 'passed'.  Guess that one slipped past you.

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DinoSteve wrote...

i have to laugh at the face shepard makes when garrus tells him about the chick he slept with


So a scene in the game made you laugh.

But when I met Jacob for the first time in ME2, I felt nothing, just the same mundane face I posted in my original threads.

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no not the content of the scene, the facial expression, it looked ridiculous

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DinoSteve wrote...

no not the content of the scene, the facial expression, it looked ridiculous


Then complain until they fix it. Push biowares limits. Post a screenshot until they fix it.  By making your voice heard, they will read and respond. Bioware is good about that kind of thing.

Bioware knows how to man up (except in the case of stereoscopic 3d, they can't handle that ****, hahah)

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meh lifes to short, i enjoyed/enjoy the game that is enough

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it just depends on the scene. Different parts of ME1 had different levels of animation quality. on Feros the exogeni guy is noted as pointing a gun at shepard, yet his hands are empty.



There are parts of me2 that display more emotion as well. shepard's trying to figure stuff out and that's a good explanation for alot of that. Also most of the cutscenes in me1 didn't SHOW the other person so it was simply "implied" they were looking at eachother. ME2 did some great stuff with animation for the dynamic cutscenes and I hope ME3 improves on that even more.

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DinoSteve wrote...

meh lifes to short, i enjoyed/enjoy the game that is enough


Careful, complacency leads to stagnation.