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[Kusy]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Remember kids! Nit picking = Intelligence. Show everybody you have a big brain.

Or do the same by witty attempts at insulting them?

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Remember kids! Nit picking = Intelligence. Show everybody you have a big brain.

Or do the same by witty attempts at insulting them?

No, it is just nit picking.

[Kusy]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Remember kids! Nit picking = Intelligence. Show everybody you have a big brain.

Or do the same by witty attempts at insulting them?

No, it is just nit picking.

Hmm... ok, sounds legit.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Remember kids! Nit picking = Intelligence. Show everybody you have a big brain.

Or do the same by witty attempts at insulting them?

No, it is just nit picking.

Hmm... ok, sounds legit.

I appreciate your seeing reason.

[SithLordExarKun]

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Annoying is an understatement. ME1 RPG purists are even worse than the shooter fans imo seeing how they think their more intelligent than anybody that even slightly enjoys shooters.

Certein ME1 fanboys has a copy of ME1 shoved up so deep in their arse that they can't even reason properly and construct proper arguments.

[Maestro975]

Yet another blowhard who aspires to be the Richard Blackwell of the VG or ME community. And he's clearly NEVER read any of the novels (at least neither of the ones featuring TIM).

[Kusy]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Annoying is an understatement. ME1 RPG purists are even worse than the shooter fans imo seeing how they think their more intelligent than anybody that even slightly enjoys shooters.

Certein ME1 fanboys has a copy of ME1 shoved up so deep in their arse that they can't even reason properly and construct proper arguments.

You insult me personaly with your generalisations, as I consider myself a Mass Effect 1 fanboy yet I don't shove such items up my arse. I also enjoy a good shooter game and do not consider FPS fanbase less inteligent than myself. DERP.

[The7Sins]

padaE wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Why? Because they were first, or because most of the time they are right about thigns that got magicaly erased from the franchise... because they noticed those things?

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No, because they whine about changes that made the game much better using arguments that are most of the time horrible. 

I'd argue a lot of those changes did not make the game better.

[Tin Soldier]

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Too specific.

[Pedro Costa]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Annoying is an understatement. ME1 RPG purists are even worse than the shooter fans imo seeing how they think their more intelligent than anybody that even slightly enjoys shooters.

Certein ME1 fanboys has a copy of ME1 shoved up so deep in their arse that they can't even reason properly and construct proper arguments.

Can we *not* go into this again?

If anyone says ME2 is superior in every possible aspect, they're idiots and deserve to be removed from the gene pool.
If anyone says ME1 is superior in every possible aspect, they're idiots and deserve to be removed from the gene pool.

Each game had their strong points and weaknesses.
Mass2's gameplay and class diversification is insanely superior and more enjoyable.
That said, magic-popping cover areas break immersion, and lack of more powers decrease character buils' quality.

Mass1's poorly handled inventory was just annoying, Mass2's lack of a proper inventory was equally annoying.

Mass1's overheat wasn't bad, heat sinks aren't either. Each present a different gameplay experience.

Mass1's recolorings provided an illusion of diversity while not really providing said diversity (c'mon, let's not fool ourselves, by the second playthrough we were all wearing Colossus/Predator X's and Spectre Gear X), Mass2's lack of proper combat attires for the squad broke immersion.

Mass2's plot wasn't as deep or as well handled as it could have been, Mass1's plot had a more clear focus and sense of wonder by simply being the first installment.

Mass2's weapons are by and far more diverse and provide a wider range of combat strategies, Mass1's weapon mods made them feel more like "our" own, fine-tuned weapons.

Mass2's loading times were faster, but its loading screens and mission complete screens severely injured player immersion.

I guess that, the best conclusion we can reach about both games is that while Mass1 excells in delivering a coherent, immerssive and engaging plot, Mass2's strong points relly on its characters, gameplay and visual appeal, with both games needing to find a common ground on issues like inventory, planetary exploration (the Mako itself wasn't the problem, the UNCs were), squad + PC powers and squad costumisation.

Just my 2 cents, tho.

[snfonseka]

This need to move into the "spoiler" section.

[habitat 67]

If I see the word retcon again I will scream.

Modifié par habitat 67, 19 janvier 2011 - 03:55 .

[Gemini1179]

All true and made me laugh. The only problem is really with Conrad as that is a known glitch.



The one thing that absolutely drove me nuts about Mordin's loyalty mission that smudboy only touches on is the fact that if you choose all the Paragon dialogue choices throughout the mission, you basically continually call Mordin one of the worst perpetrators of genocide and murder ever and that he never should have done what he did. Then in a nice bizarre 180, Shepard then scolds Weyland (?) on the lack of ethics in creating a cure.



Say what you want about thermal clips, he's dead on. They are, simply, a game mechanic put in to broaden the combat appeal of the game. Period. I'm pretty sure I can't out DPS someone if I can't fire my gun due to a lack of thermal clips where before all I had to do was possibly wait 5 seconds.



The only other nitpicky thing might be his critique of "Mass Effect Fields" as designed by the codex. I was under the assumption that it referred to personal shielding only.

[Bluko]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

NO!!!! WHAT DID YOU DO??? YOU OPENED THE GATES OF HELL!!!!

Shepard: This looks interesting.


Yeah but seriously OP you're kind of asking trouble. Smudboy is not the most popular user. And most of us have had this debate/seen the vids.

[Gibb_Shepard]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Annoying is an understatement. ME1 RPG purists are even worse than the shooter fans imo seeing how they think their more intelligent than anybody that even slightly enjoys shooters.

Certein ME1 fanboys has a copy of ME1 shoved up so deep in their arse that they can't even reason properly and construct proper arguments.

Not going to take sides here, but the ME1 purists seem to always have well thought out arguments. Just sayin'

[SithLordExarKun]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...



Not going to take sides here, but the ME1 purists seem to always have well thought out arguments. Just sayin'

In your opinion, yes, in the eyes of reality no. So saying ME1 is the holy grail of gaming is a well thought argument?

[Techo Angel]

ZachForrest wrote...

It's a smart critique no doubt, and i agree with all the points. But is there any 'value' in it?

Pointing out things Bioware may want to clear up if they descide keep expanding this Massively growing universe as they goes threw ME3 and possibly beyond? I mean we all know the Unverse of Mass Effect will more likely then not be going away even as we see the end of Shepards Story. While maybe no Value in it, it helps point out the little things some what that could the little pinpricks that slowly tear into a great over all story and the vase and near endless potental of the Universe. While I say most of what he points out is really of no value he does have points that are things which do seem like poor choices to change if one looks at not the games themselves as much as the universe that has been created for both.

[Gleym]

padaE wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

padaE wrote...

The guy is clearly a ME1 fanboy, and damn, they are annoying.

Why? Because they were first, or because most of the time they are right about thigns that got magicaly erased from the franchise... because they noticed those things?

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No, because they whine about changes that made the game much better using arguments that are most of the time horrible. 

Just like Twilight made vampires better. Or 4th Edition made DnD better. Or how Spider-Man: One More Day improved the franchise.

Oh wait, all these changes effectively reamed those things up the backdoor and served to do little else than ****** off pre-established fans of those things while reducing them to shallow mockeries of what they once were, just to appeal to a current crowd that would either a) otherwise never be interested in it in the first place unless it wasn't catering to their tastes, or wouldn't have really noticed or cared in the first place.

Modifié par Gleym, 19 janvier 2011 - 06:44 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Thanks for the vids, OP.

[Gibb_Shepard]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...



Not going to take sides here, but the ME1 purists seem to always have well thought out arguments. Just sayin'

In your opinion, yes, in the eyes of reality no. So saying ME1 is the holy grail of gaming is a well thought argument?

lol

No one has ever said that, even the most die hard ME1 fans. You're over-exaggerating. No one thinks ME1 is the holy-grail.

[Jorina Leto]

Great Vids.

[Gleym]

Silly, Gibb. ME2 zealots HAVE to say that, otherwise they lose all foundation for their baseless argument that a dumbed down game is better than a game that, in spite of its flaws (which nobody denies there were) had a whole lot more going for it, but was evidently ultimately too complex for someone who can't work outside of 'press button to win' mechanics.

[DaringMoosejaw]

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Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 19 janvier 2011 - 07:01 .