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[Jazharah]

Stammwuerze wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Tramps
****s
Skanks
Hos

Yet still more desirable than narrow-minded idiots on the internets.

Oh nice, here are the name-callings. At least you really provided some mind-blowing
new viewpoint. Very productive. Perhaps I insulted your imaginary girlfriend, for that, I apologize.

I'm not imaginary!

[Stammwuerze]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

So wait
Man has sex with many partners = stud
Woman has sex with many partners = ****
Don't you just love double standards?

Nope, as I stated before, Leliana is doing that on a regular basis. And not because she
likes man A or man B, but because it is advantageos for her goals. 
I am not thinking, a women has to be a sl** because she had many bed partners.
It has nothing to do with double moral standards.

[PsychoBlonde]

Atakuma wrote...

Stammwuerze wrote...

It is a bit exaggerated, but it's part of Leliana's job to sleep with men.
I think that's a bit different from sleeping with a few guys, because she wanted to.

Why exactly is sleeping with men part of her job? I would think sleeping with random dudes is one of the least efficient ways to get things.

Ayup--letting them think you MIGHT sleep with them, maybe.  But actually sleeping with them?  Nah, although you might corner yourself into having to go through with it occasionally if you don't plan ahead.  But Leliana didn't strike me as being that stupid.  Her only former relationship (that you know about for a fact), was with Marjorlaine.

I want to know why people feel it's necessary to use a perjorative term.  I don't care if my partner's had no lovers or fifty--I care about how much I like them and enjoy their company.  But then I'm too lazy to get all hung up on what other people do before I even meet them.

[Guitar-Hero]

Felfenix wrote...

Maybe there will be a virgin puritan LI in DA2 for all the people complaining it's unrealistic or skanky for someone to have had a relationship before the one with you. Oh, and maybe she'll wear a platemail burka, because anyone who doesn't would be unrealistic and a "skank".

Am i the only one who would find that kinda hot
you make it sound like you are choosing between leperci and the plague
the characters have led lives before you find them, lilianna being a bard/spy would ofcourse be trained in the art of seduction, if that saves lifes and keeps her from exposure then it would be the logical choice yes? 

[Stammwuerze]

Jazharah wrote...

Stammwuerze wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Tramps
****s
Skanks
Hos

Yet still more desirable than narrow-minded idiots on the internets.

Oh nice, here are the name-callings. At least you really provided some mind-blowing
new viewpoint. Very productive. Perhaps I insulted your imaginary girlfriend, for that, I apologize.

I'm not imaginary!

You QFT each other on the internet... okay.

[Jazharah]

Steffen wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

Maybe there will be a virgin puritan LI in DA2 for all the people complaining it's unrealistic or skanky for someone to have had a relationship before the one with you. Oh, and maybe she'll wear a platemail burka, because anyone who doesn't would be unrealistic and a "skank".

Am i the only one who would find that kinda hot
you make it sound like you are choosing between leperci and the plague
the characters have led lives before you find them, lilianna being a bard/spy would ofcourse be trained in the art of seduction, if that saves lifes and keeps her from exposure then it would be the logical choice yes? 

Meredith FTW?

[Urazz]

Dave of Canada wrote...

*sigh*

Double-standard here in full effect.

Not quite if said people also considered Zevran to be a tramp as well in DA:O.  Just means they are prudish.

[Images]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Tramps
****s
Skanks
Hos

Yet still more desirable than narrow-minded idiots on the internets. 

I dunno, interacting with either set could get you stuck with a virus.



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But seriously, I don't have too a much of a problem with our followers showing sexual interest. If they don't make it clear that's what they're after, everyone would complain about being ninja-romanced.

[nightcobra]

 now where did i put that quote?

found it:), this seems appropriate.

David Gaider wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...
For the folks that see empowered and equal portrayals of females as a positive thing, you really need to let go of the stigma attached to these words that were once seen as insults. Otherwise the stigma, the judgments and the negative connotations of the behavior never go away. And these roles will never be seen in a truly positive way. You only add to the problem by getting insulted by it.

I'll say this once and once only: you are not in a position to tell someone that they should "let go" of the stigma attached to those words. They are charged for a reason, and that's because they've been historically used as derogratory insults. Telling a woman that she shouldn't be offended by the word "sl*t" because it's factual would be like telling a black person that they shouldn't be offended by the n-word or a gay person that they shouldn't be offended by the f-word. After all, aren't those words just descriptions for something that is true?

Words have power. And misogyny has no place on these forums-- and pretending it isn't misogyny reeks of male privilege. As I've said, Isabela is a fictional character who's not about to be insulted by anything you say, but her gender is very real and you (and others on these threads) need to take this into consideration when you start casually tossing around such words.

Characters in the game (and indeed your own PC) can take various attitudes towards Isabela's sexual proclivities-- but that's in the game. In real life and on these forums you will need to moderate what you say out of respect for your fellow posters or we will need to step in and moderate it for you. That's why these discussions keep getting closed, and pretty soon it'll lead to people being disinvited from these forums if they don't know how to conduct themselves in public.

And that's it. Thanks for your attention.

[Clova]

If all that people are seeing about the characters are their sexuality and how they are with it, and not anything deeper...thats konda sad. Zev i found really good once you got passed his tendency to flirt with anything that had 2 legs and talked. Leli did what she had to do for her mistress and had a conflict of the soul later. Morrigan never had a chance to really be a child and was groomed in her mothers image.



There is more to these guys than sexuality

[Jazharah]

Thanks for quoting that one, Nightcobra! Nicely dug up - I was searching for it but you beat me to it.

[Zjarcal]

This thread is facepalm worthy. What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

EDIT: Also, what does Leliana have to do with DA II? 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 19 janvier 2011 - 12:01 .

[nightcobra]

Jazharah wrote...

Thanks for quoting that one, Nightcobra! Nicely dug up - I was searching for it but you beat me to it.

well it was in the thread i created so i had home field advantage:whistle:

[Jazharah]

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread is facepalm worthy. What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

You mean.. you don't find this funny?

[Zjarcal]

Jazharah wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread is facepalm worthy. What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

You mean.. you don't find this funny?

It was funny the first time. Now it's just annoying.

Scratch that, it was NEVER funny really.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 19 janvier 2011 - 12:02 .

[Images]

Zjarcal wrote...

What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

I suppose the internet's balance between porn and non-porn pages has to be restored somehow.

Modifié par Images, 19 janvier 2011 - 12:02 .

[HolyJellyfish]

These days I've been taking a shot everytime one of these threads go up.



Lately its been daily.

[Guitar-Hero]

Jazharah wrote...

Steffen wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

Maybe there will be a virgin puritan LI in DA2 for all the people complaining it's unrealistic or skanky for someone to have had a relationship before the one with you. Oh, and maybe she'll wear a platemail burka, because anyone who doesn't would be unrealistic and a "skank".

Am i the only one who would find that kinda hot
you make it sound like you are choosing between leperci and the plague
the characters have led lives before you find them, lilianna being a bard/spy would ofcourse be trained in the art of seduction, if that saves lifes and keeps her from exposure then it would be the logical choice yes? 

Meredith FTW?

I'm sorry i've been pondering this reference for a while and at the risk of sounding like a ******, i have no idea who Meredith is.


Ps. does she have a nonnes robe because that would just be.. swell( guess its too late with the ****** thing might aswell go all out)

[nightcobra]

Jazharah wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread is facepalm worthy. What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

You mean.. you don't find this funny?

a facepalm worthy?

cue it fellas:lol:

[Atakuma]

As a tramp myself, this topic is incredibly offensive to the modesty impaired.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

Leliana was one of the best love interest made in a Bioware games, but it's only my opinion.

[The Bard From Hell]

I never found Morrigan a s***. I don't remember she ever actually admiting having f**** around with a lot of guys, unlike Leliana and Zevran. And then there's Alistair, who's virgin (my characters always made fun out of him for that...). Well, concerning characters in general for DA2 we have: ultra-hot-sexy pirate lady, Mr. Chestwood AKA Varric, your siblings, an elf with an aversion to fisical contact (I don't think he qualifies as a tramp, unless he's also sadomasochist), a cute elf girl, and a widow. For real, only two in there I can see as "tramps", and only one is a know romance option.

[Jazharah]

Zjarcal wrote...

Jazharah wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

This thread is facepalm worthy. What I can't get over is how many morons have to post this crap at least once a week.

You mean.. you don't find this funny?

It was funny the first time. Now it's just annoying.

Scratch that, it was NEVER funny really.

[Le_Saboteur]

I didn't even realise any one considered Leliana a sl*t. She certainly never struck me that way. She was an ex-bard, that's all. It's not like she was a prostitute.

In real life, adults have sex with other adults for a number of reasons, not just for 'twue wuv'. A game should reflect that. If you want virginal, go for Alistair next time you play DA:O. I'm sure there'll be a similar character in this game.

Also, that's an excellent quote from Gaider, there.

Modifié par Le_Saboteur, 19 janvier 2011 - 12:07 .

[Irkalla]

In my home country we have this saying that loosely translates as: A tramp is a woman who sleeps with everybody except you. I hope the irony didn't get lost in translation.