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Thane a plot shortfall in Mass Effect 2?


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Thank you for coming to my defense!!!

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Am I wrong in finding Thane to be one of the most interesting characters in the game?

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xXSnak3Eat3rXx wrote...

Am I wrong in finding Thane one of the most interesting characters in the game?

I don't think you are. Depends on what you like. Drell seem like an extreamly interesting species in general. Also, his "loyality" mission is interesting. But it's true - he's not to relevant to the Collectors plot.

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I think the problem is more that the OP didn't understand Thane more than anything. Thane is a deep emotional character that doesn't talk to you in childs english and speaks many words of wisdom. Also some people found Thane to be their favourite character. Just because you didn't enjoy it OP. That's why there are different characters for everyone. You don't have to get to know them all and save them all.

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Drew Karpyshyn was fired?



Oh god, is ME3 even worth getting?

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You spelled "favorite" wrong.....

Just sayin if your going to insult the forum poster get your spelling right.

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Shavon wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn was fired?

Oh god, is ME3 even worth getting?


Yes if you like turd person shooters....
You know i got banned for that old forum too....

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Mr. Karpyshyn was not fired as far as I recon - he was moved to Austin, to work on TOR.

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This isnt unknown to me but is beside the point...

The fact he was kicked off the project he ultimately created is enough to deter most fans from held out faith..

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As far as the topic goes, everyone has a character they don't like or think is pointless. Mine is Jacob, generally. TBH, if it were not for Thane, I would not be able to enjoy ME2 any where near as much as I do.

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Kicked out =/= given a most likely better work oportunity.

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He is a big SW fan who previously wrote two SW novels, so maybe he wanted a change of scenery.



And, OP, you be trollin big time. lol

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Drew wasn't fired, he is just no longer working on the Mass Effect trilogy. I imagine the outline for the entire trilogy was drawn while he was still around, Walters and the rest are just filling in the details.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Kicked out =/= given a most likely better work oportunity.



Better than finishing "the greatest story ever told in a video game,period"?
One that he wrote?
We all know he was kicked off the project.

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mangeo wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Kicked out =/= given a most likely better work oportunity.



Better than finishing "the greatest story ever told in a video game,period"?
One that he wrote?
We all know he was kicked off the project.


I can see why you were banned before

As for Thane, I thought he was well done and found him quite interesting. 

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Better than finishing "the greatest story ever told in a video game,period"?




Drew wrote Planescape: Torment?!

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Thane has the best entrance into a game ever, the way he assassinated them and the music in the background, it was just awesome

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I have mixed feelings about Thane, on one hand he is a rather deep character with a lot of insightful wisdom, on the other... he is inconsequential to the overall plot and far too bishie for my tastes.

He's mostly there to be mr. fanservice, like most Asari ar ms fanservice, and I really don't like that.

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Awesome character, surprisingly deep, and in my opinion, the best romance in ME2. I love doing his romance with my FemShep; it takes me to another world. Absolutely magical and very beautifully written.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 19 janvier 2011 - 04:30 .


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Wow, never thought I'd see an OP go so quickly off topic in his own thread. No ulterior motive there, of course :P



Anyway, Thane. If the only characters you care about are the plot-important ones, then it's your prerogative to have a party of only Liara, Ash or Kaidan, Miranda, and Mordin come ME3. *shrug* Or just cease playing BioWare games if you don't like having non plot essential characters around.

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ZachForrest wrote...

Thane's awesome. You might argue he's a bit one note, but compared to the likes of Jacob/Jack he's a regular Odysseus.

How do you get banned twice?!


Probably by using a more inflammatory means to convey his opinion.

And one can argue all day long that Thane's character is defined by his mortality but you'll never convince anybody.

Just accept that he's a good sniper and move on.

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Shavon wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn was fired?

Oh god, is ME3 even worth getting?

He wasn't "fired", Shavon. He just moved to work on Star Wars for his own reasons.

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I have mixed feelings about Thane, on one hand he is a rather deep character with a lot of insightful wisdom, on the other... he is inconsequential to the overall plot


Sums up my thoughts on Thane rather well. I like Thane. I like his loyalty mission. I like having him on missions for his comments sometimes. But beyond that, I can't help but feel a bit of "What was the point of recruiting this guy?". Nothing engaged his specialties in the Suicide mission. Granted, all you really *need* for the suicide mission to be successful would be a tech. expert, a strong biotic, and a squad of Marines. Doubly granted, you had no way of knowing this before going through the Om4 Relay, so it's understandable to vary your squad a bit, but still...

As interesting as he was, he just seemed very inconsequential to everything. I mean, Tali is pretty much a Quarian hero (despite, or maybe even including, her trial fiasco), and ignoring that, she is an old comrade of Shepard's. Garrus is also a close comrade of Shepard. Grunt is quite possibly the future of the Krogan. Samara is an Asari Justicar. Jack may be the most powerful human biotic in existance (at least active in the game world). Jacob and Miranda at least have the story linkage of being Cerberus operatives. Kasumi has the greybox data (assuming you keep it; otherwise she becomes inconsequential as well). Zaeed is just a merc, so he's supposed to be inconsequential. Legion is a means of communicating with and negotiating with the Geth. Mordin is needed for defense against the seekers.

And Thane is... well, he's just there because he wants to help and try to make the universe "a little brighter". Not a bad thing, but... Well, he could be anybody.

Again, this isn't a complaint about Thane himself. Like I said, I like the character. It's more of a testament to the poor overall story-telling of ME2. Individual characters and their individual stories were fine. Integrating them all into the larger story was not done very well, IMHO.

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As a matter of fact, Mordin is the only plot-integral squadmate; that is to say, the plot wouldn't continue without Mordin's presence (i.e. Horizon and seeker swarm countermeasures). Miranda is involved in the plot, but she's in no way important or crucial like Mordin. Say all you want, but every single squadmate other than Mordin IS irrelevant as far as the ongoing plot goes. It's not just Thane.

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adam_grif wrote...

What bothered me about Thane was how irrelevant he was to the outcomes. He was supposed to be a master assassin, really sneaky etc. But then he was just another front line soldier in your party. He was not useful in any of the specialist slots, so he just holds the line and maybe escorts your crew back. None of his special skills came in handy.


That's what I always thought, his skills were worthless for the teams efforts against the collectors. He was basically a sniper, but we already have Garrus and Legion (and Zaeed) for that, but with biotics which we have Samara/Morinth and Jack for.