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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

mangeo wrote...

Mangeo asks!!!

Does anyone else believe that Thane was an unneeded character?
I thought his character was a bit hollow & a complete waste of your game machines life span.
Even though the desighners kept trying to give him backstory i just didnt care if he lived or died at
the end of the game.Does any one agree?
      Oh & a note to the moderator:i have no clue if this thread is to simalar to another so please dont bann me a third time!!!

Yes I do. Thane is a stupid character and completely irrelevant. Should have just cut him out and spend the resources on things that actuelly needed it.

[Diokletian600]

I found the whole warrior monk thing he had going sort of interesting, minus his claim that he is not responsible for his killings since his body is his contractor's vessel, but I must admit that on the whole I found his whole addition rather unnecessary.



Admittedly this can be said about many characters, since the vast majority of them are not really connected to the plot. As has been said, only Mordin is really plot relevant, since you need his countermeasure thing on Horizon (and somehow you can't upgrade it for the "suicide mission"), but at least Jacob and Miranda make sense since they are your Cerberus watchdogs.



Not to mention that a good deal of his story is just another repeat of Carth (dead wife, son about to go bad, female protagonist is his psychiatrist and gets compared with his dead wife). I wonder what would happen if Femshepard and Thane made love and suddenly he had one his hallucinations where he relives exactly the same act with his dead wife and starts killing out her name...wait, let's not focus on that.



But then again in general I would have preferred a smaller squad - I think there is a video somehow on youtube where suggestions are made for several characters to be cut and others to be combined. I don't agree with everything voiced there, but it goes into the right direction.



So, yeah, they could have cut him and I don't the game's quality would have suffered. Why are we hiring an assassin when there's no specific target to assassinate (then again, why are we hiring anyone on the list of specialists when we have zero idea and zero intel on what we are actually going to do and what lies beyond the Omega 4 relay - hell, unlike the SB, we did not even send reconnaissance probes through it, ah, stop ranting now)?

[Ramirez Wolfen]

For characters that I find relevant, here's what I think (storywise):

Mordin (Relevant) - He's needed to make a defense against the Collector swarms, also might help with genophage

Garrus (Relevant) - I think he's mostly there so Shepard can have someone he's familiar with and trusts

Grunt (Relevant) - He's needed for the tough fights where there's really tough enemies. Also connections with Urdnot to help against the Reapers

Jacob (Irrelevant) - He was just head of security on the Lazarus Project. Why did he need to join you?

Miranda (Relevant) - She helped bring Shepard back to life and is a connection with Cerberus resources

Kasumi (Irrelevant) - Her skills serve you no purpose at all

Zaeed (Irrelevant) - Skills serve you no purpose except for combat ability

Jack (Irrelevant) - Why have Jack when you can have Samara, who's a much better biotic and isn't likely to kill your crew?

Thane (Irrelevant) - His skills serve you no purpose

Tali (Relevant) - She can help you get the Quarians to help you in the fight against the Reapers

Legion (Relevant) - It can get the Geth to fight with you against the Reapers

Samara (Relevant) - Best biotic for you to use on the Suicide Mission

Morinth (Irrelevant) - Why would you take her with you?

That's just what I think, if anyone's offended, I'm sorry, that's not what was intended.

Modifié par Ramirez Wolfen, 19 janvier 2011 - 06:18 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

This thread will get locked...
Personally, I like Thane. If you want to discuss that Thane is irrelevant in Mass Effect, then please, go to the Thane thread. We would be glad to debate this issue with you . Hehe, only joking .

[Sable Rhapsody]

mangeo wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Wow, never thought I'd see an OP go so quickly off topic in his own thread. No ulterior motive there, of course

Anyway, Thane. If the only characters you care about are the plot-important ones, then it's your prerogative to have a party of only Liara, Ash or Kaidan, Miranda, and Mordin come ME3. *shrug* Or just cease playing BioWare games if you don't like having non plot essential characters around.

I have been playing Mass Effect 1 since its realese date in 2007!
I doubt i could just abandon it now!

*shrug*  Sure, but the complaints you have with Thane in the OP could be just as easily leveled at any non-leading party member in any BioWare game.  

If it's really just Thane that you don't like, as opposed to every non-critical NPC, well...that's what the suicide mission's for.  Explosions, impalement, cyborg bugs...take your goddamn pick 

[renegadeinterrupt]

Nice post Ramirez.
It's already been hinted at in this thread and has probably been said before but from what we know about the reapers from ME1 and the ME3 trailer all of ME2's main story is a distraction/stall in the overall trilogy arc of an imminent reaper invasion. The collectors took up combat time while they brought these characters into the story and it's possible some of the characters may develop more relevance to the trilogy story than we know right now provided they are alive. What's to stop Bioware from making one of these seemingly irrelevant characters much more relevant in ME3 in the same way Liara seems to be an important part of the story after Shadowbroker. Maybe Thane will take down the Reaper leader single-handed with a shot so precise no one else could make it.

That was a joke.

Modifié par renegadeinterrupt, 19 janvier 2011 - 11:30 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

mangeo wrote...

Ha Ha Ha!!!!!
I like you...

I was being a little facetious, but whatever floats your boat 

At the end of the day, if you don't like the guy, don't recruit him.  Or off him in the suicide mission.  People seem to have this sense that BioWare forces all these squaddies on us, and it's not the case.  All of them except Liara can be killed, and if you want, you can recruit Liara so late you have barely have a conversation with her.  Get rid of who you don't like or just don't recruit them in the first place.

[lizzbee]

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

I think he's a great character, but he doesn't really have any use for the suicide mission. A segment where somebody would have to infiltrate part of the base, alone, would have been a great opportunity to make Thane useful.

He may not have specialist uses, but he's the most essential part of any of my Sheps' entourage through the entire suicide mission.  He and Mordin are almost always my final team to face the Reaper.  Warp + Incinerate do a hell of a lot more damage than any heavy weapon any Shep brings along.

[Sashimi_taco]

I know he was supposed to be all sexy and stuff, but i didn't think he was sexy at all. I mean, i would have sex with him. But it would definitely not be a thing.

[PiEman]

* reads first post *



* nosebleed *

[renegadeinterrupt]

I have played thane's loyalty mission again since my last post and while this isnt quite relevant to the topic the most unacceptable part for me is that Bailey let's you get away with murdering joram if you choose to do so. I myself as shepherd think it's a totally badass way to end it but it pushes Bailey's character over the line from likeable but slightly dodgy cop just trying to do his job to disturbingly corrupt. Omg is this the beginning of a preference for a paragon choice? I may have to get a new user name out of shame.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

I like all the characters, I just find some of them to be irrelevant.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Shavon wrote...

 Also would like to add:
No one is irrelevant.  There is no "I" in team.  And Shepard is what?
Oh!  Building a team.

That has nothing to do with anything. No offense.

[CroGamer002]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Jacob (Irrelevant) - He was just head of security on the Lazarus Project. Why did he need to join you?

Jack/Illusive Man: "Jacob's a soldier, one of the best"

Kasumi (Irrelevant) - Her skills serve you no purpose at all

Zaeed (Irrelevant) - Skills serve you no purpose except for combat ability

Well they are DLC characters.

Jack (Irrelevant) - Why have Jack when you can have Samara, who's a much better biotic and isn't likely to kill your crew?

Why have just 1 very powerful Biotic, when you can have 2?( story wise, not game wise)

Thane (Irrelevant) - His skills serve you no purpose

As much as I like Thane a lot, I have to agree.

Morinth (Irrelevant) - Why would you take her with you?

If you are Renegade Shepard, Samara tells she will kill you once her oath ends and finds you. OK you find that after loyalty mission and crew abduction but still to be noted.

Modifié par Mesina2, 20 janvier 2011 - 06:33 .

[CroGamer002]

mangeo wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Shavon wrote...

 Also would like to add:
No one is irrelevant.  There is no "I" in team.  And Shepard is what?
Oh!  Building a team.

That has nothing to do with anything. No offense.

The whole idea of "building a team" destroyed the sequal.
you built your team in ME1.

No it didn't.