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[RAF1940]

I don't understand this hostility. If you would actually read prazision's original post, he stated that this is uncommon. As he also said, a Google search turns up no other forums for this topic.

[jbh]

Nitek_pl wrote...

cool87machine wrote...

For anyone experiencing the bypass wall safe and door freezing try accessing the door on a diagonal angle rather than straight on. Start back far enough so the action button box is greyed out. Line your character up at a diagonal angle then press forward and start tapping X at the same time. This has been working for me in places I've gotten stuck before.

Tried this and still not working. I have now tried the same door 12 times now and it freezes every time. I am trying different viewing angles/options/weapons etc. and will post back if I find something that works.

hmmm I just wanted to remind you that you are playing on console. games shoyld work in 100%
what is this crap? I should open door from different angles not stanfing in front of them?
erm... WTF?! are you nuts?
YOU HAVE PAID 60$ for finished product. You are NOT beta tester. You should enjoy yourself with non-stress gampley (unless you play on insanity and forgot to cover )
Playing in that generation makes me sick It's like playing on a PC with constant wait for patch to a patch with paches 1000000 different patches because someone couldn't make it works at first place.
stop defending Bioware/EA/Activision/ANYBODY... there should not be situation like that.
for instance Black Ops on Ps3 is playable now... after errr 4 months of patching? when will be ME2 ready? YOU HAD A YEAR! A YEAR!
We consumers/customers/players - call us what you will aren't payed for testing your game. You should at least tell us something, not avoid subject. ME2 port isn't flawless. It should be.
and you Bioware/EA don't even care. You should apologise that you messed up. Of course you won't.

thank you for your attention people.

We are not defending the company or the game. We are trying to come up with solutions so we can play the game without waiting a month for a patch that might work.

[Nitek_pl]

jbh wrote...

Nitek_pl wrote...

cool87machine wrote...

For anyone experiencing the bypass wall safe and door freezing try accessing the door on a diagonal angle rather than straight on. Start back far enough so the action button box is greyed out. Line your character up at a diagonal angle then press forward and start tapping X at the same time. This has been working for me in places I've gotten stuck before.

Tried this and still not working. I have now tried the same door 12 times now and it freezes every time. I am trying different viewing angles/options/weapons etc. and will post back if I find something that works.

hmmm I just wanted to remind you that you are playing on console. games shoyld work in 100%
what is this crap? I should open door from different angles not stanfing in front of them?
erm... WTF?! are you nuts?
YOU HAVE PAID 60$ for finished product. You are NOT beta tester. You should enjoy yourself with non-stress gampley (unless you play on insanity and forgot to cover )
Playing in that generation makes me sick It's like playing on a PC with constant wait for patch to a patch with paches 1000000 different patches because someone couldn't make it works at first place.
stop defending Bioware/EA/Activision/ANYBODY... there should not be situation like that.
for instance Black Ops on Ps3 is playable now... after errr 4 months of patching? when will be ME2 ready? YOU HAD A YEAR! A YEAR!
We consumers/customers/players - call us what you will aren't payed for testing your game. You should at least tell us something, not avoid subject. ME2 port isn't flawless. It should be.
and you Bioware/EA don't even care. You should apologise that you messed up. Of course you won't.

thank you for your attention people.

We are not defending the company or the game. We are trying to come up with solutions so we can play the game without waiting a month for a patch that might work.

so you are accepting the fact that you do someone else work without getting paid and instead having fun you have to... work...
instead of worring what uberevil enemy crawls from around the corner you choose to be afraid that standing in front of door  will kill your hdd for ie. because of freeze that will occur and shouldn't happen (guy in another topic has lost his hdd data because faulty saving on loading screen)
you are happy with that? really?
intresting.

Modifié par Nitek_pl, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:21 .

[jbh]

Nitek_pl: I didn't say anything that you just posted in your message. You are not offering any advice or even constructive criticism to the developers. Please take your bad attitude and grammar out of this thread.



To everyone else: I have tried another 10 times and still nothing. This is on the Firewalker mission and now I can't leave because the ship flies away due to being in "danger" Anyone know how to exit this mission? If not I guess I'll have to stop playing.

[Nitek_pl]

@jbh: you did not said that but you are doing this. and what constructive criticsm you want me to write? I didn't had any single issue during my walkthrough. I lost my 30h of life because someone didn't reported that in some point of game (Shadow Broker) it crashes and you loose all your character data. you loose everthing and have to play from scratch. put that game away until patch comes up. Game is great but it's not worth it.



And to be clear. I don't have anything against you. It's just sad how devs don't give a c... and they can't admit that they messed up and missed something while testing game (but this issue is hard to miss)

[Quill74Pen]

JBH:

I haven't read the entire thread, so this might be a moot point: Do you have any saves from *before* the Firewalker mission?

Quill74Pen

[jbh]

Quill74Pen wrote...

JBH:
I haven't read the entire thread, so this might be a moot point: Do you have any saves from *before* the Firewalker mission?
Quill74Pen

Yes but they are about 8 hours behind. I tried another 10 or 20 times changing everything I could think of and it still freezes immediately when I try to bypass the door.

After giving up I decided to delete about 30 gigs of outdated game data off of my hard drive, uninstall Mass Effect 2 and DLC and reinstall both. After fresh installs I created a new game and it is still freezing immediately when bypassing. It just doesn't make any sense to me that is only happening to a few people on this forum.

Since every career is saved to a different save file I don't think these files are contributing to the bypassing freeze I am experiencing. I have reinstalled the game and the DLC twice now and the exact same thing happens every time. This seems to point towards the other file the game creates that can't be copied, the Game Progress/Settings file or possibly a hidden file we can't see or access.

[jbh]

Deleting the Game Progress/Settings file did not fix the bypass freeze. It just deleted my settings and the EA account notification popped up when I started the game like it does the first time you put the disc in.

[Guest7]

jbh wrote...

Quill74Pen wrote...

JBH:
I haven't read the entire thread, so this might be a moot point: Do you have any saves from *before* the Firewalker mission?
Quill74Pen

Yes but they are about 8 hours behind. I tried another 10 or 20 times changing everything I could think of and it still freezes immediately when I try to bypass the door.

After giving up I decided to delete about 30 gigs of outdated game data off of my hard drive, uninstall Mass Effect 2 and DLC and reinstall both. After fresh installs I created a new game and it is still freezing immediately when bypassing. It just doesn't make any sense to me that is only happening to a few people on this forum.

Since every career is saved to a different save file I don't think these files are contributing to the bypassing freeze I am experiencing. I have reinstalled the game and the DLC twice now and the exact same thing happens every time. This seems to point towards the other file the game creates that can't be copied, the Game Progress/Settings file or possibly a hidden file we can't see or access.

I did the same exact thing. I deleted almost all my old saves and also alot of old game data (20 gigs worth) this is the first game ive ever had freezes occur this frequently. Im able to look past a freeze every now and again but this to the point where its unplayable i can get maybe 5 min tops (unfortunately this is not exaggerating) before something or another causes the game to freeze and i have to hard restart my ps3. I have the latest firmware, no movies (except netflix installed) or music or pictures on my ps3. I've toggled every option i could think of to try to maybe figure out if its some sort of configuration on my end thats making it crash. Though nothing has worked. I have yet to have corrupt data but that
could be due to the fact that i cant play long enough, though it wouldnt even matter
if i lost that little time worth of a save. Has BioWare given any acknowledgement to the freezing issue? I only ask because if it really is just me then i might aswell return for full value while i have a chance.

[SpezXVII]

Fandango9641 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

I don't understand this hostility. If you would actually read prazision's original post, he stated that this is uncommon. As he also said, a Google search turns up no other forums for this topic.

Did a quick Google search:

"mass effect 2"ps3 corrupt

About 2,600,000 results (0.11 seconds) 

Try it!

You know, it amazes me how people still don't have a clue about using proper search parameters. Great job giving them an example Fandango.

[prazision]

SpezXVII wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

I don't understand this hostility. If you would actually read prazision's original post, he stated that this is uncommon. As he also said, a Google search turns up no other forums for this topic.

Did a quick Google search:

"mass effect 2"ps3 corrupt

About 2,600,000 results (0.11 seconds) 

Try it!

You know, it amazes me how people still don't have a clue about using proper search parameters. Great job giving them an example Fandango.

That's not a great example at all.  Every search result returned with those parameters has been created within the past day, and the only citation they give is this topic in this forum.

Again, if this were a very common, very widespread problem, there would be threads about it and news reports all over the place that DIDN'T simply cite this thread as evidence.  Again I will point out that this thread consists of literally around a dozen people harping on the issue.

As to the poster that says "consoles aren't supposed to freeze", you're ignorant, full stop.  Current-gen consoles are basically PCs.  There are many, many variables in play.  It's not like an SNES where the console is static - 360s and PS3s have hard drives, they have drivers, they have firmware, they have exponentially more variables than any other previous generation console.

If only a small number of people are experiencing an issue, then it is unique and mysterious enough that a patch is unlikely, simply because with such a small sample size you would basically need a Sony and a BioWareEA tech to come to your house and work for days analyzing your particular system.

New Vegas' bugs were very quickly patched because they were widespread.  None of these freezing issues or corrupted data issues are.

It is truly staggering how ignorant console gamers are of how exhaustive and unpredictable the bug testing process is.  It often takes hundreds of man-hours to even reproduce one bug reliably.

[oilersfan08]

Dear bioware/EA,



PLEASE COME OUT WITH A FREAKING PATCH I WANT TO PLAY MASS EFFECT 2 WITHOUT THIS CRAP!!!!!!

[LiLAsN]

Some people are going straight to the consequences of this freeze. And that is getting their 'Save Files' corrupted.
But what caused the 'Save Files' to be corrupted in the first place was the freezing of the game while it was saving.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/category/292/index
Pressing on the index will lead you to a lot of threads about the 'Save Files' being corrupted.

On a side note searching on YouTube with the keywords, 'ps3 mass effect 2 glitch', will lead you to even more problems that we did not know about because they never thought of coming to this forum.

If you want to get your problem fixed, find the main source of where the developers will receive your feedback and that is this forum. Just so you know, this thread is monitored by Bioware as said by 1 of the admins and by the mark on this thread.

So don't worry guys. This matter is indeed being looked into. And again, if you have any other problems that you have encountered, please try to state as many details as possible such as your PS3, when, where and how it happened so as to assist them in replicating these glitches and bugs so that they can fix it. Showing a video of the glitch before, during and after the glitch will prove even more useful.

And also, if anyone in this thread is harassing you, please don't be afraid to use the 'Report this post' link at the top right of that person's post. Thank you. 

Modifié par LiLAsN, 26 janvier 2011 - 07:22 .

[Stammwuerze]

160GB Slim, freezes approximately

[Tsigtsag]

Experiencing the freezing problem as well, here. Using a new, slim PS3 160g, when doing the Tali recruitment mission would have complete system lockup in the canyon area with the cloaked drones and geth primes. First night I had been playing for 4 or more hours, hard shut down the system, same thing. Next day I started it up and same problem, then made it a bit further and it crashed again. Finally reloaded the whole thing, shut off autosave and ran like mad towards the end as fast as I could and fought at the far end of the canyon and darted through as quickly as I could. Managed to scrape by without a freeze on that run and haven't had any more problems even with auto-save back on.

[Guest7]

To those who are getting the freezing issues... The very first time you ran the game did you download the DLC and if so did you do it ingame, or was the game closed and you used the PSN?

[LiLAsN]

Guest7 wrote...

To those who are getting the freezing issues... The very first time you ran the game did you download the DLC and if so did you do it ingame, or was the game closed and you used the PSN?

The first time I ran the game, I downloaded the DLC ingame as that is when I'll have to enter the code to activate the game and link the DLC to my PSN.
And then, I'll just wait until the DLC completely finishes downloading and installed itself before I cancel PSN Store and the game just resumes itself.

Thanks. Right now, I have deleted every data again and downloading the DLC through PSN Store instead of installing the game first. Let's see whether this makes a different. 

Modifié par LiLAsN, 26 janvier 2011 - 01:08 .

[fonzthegreat]

120gig slim, done all the loyalty quests, all the dlc except shadow broker, first time it froze when I reached the 2nd floor of the bombed out building.

[jla1987]

I'm still awaiting my copy in the mail, but this freezing/corruption problem makes me hesitant to open up the game when it arrives...

Forgive me if it's been asked, but if I play the game without connectinig to the internet and don't download any DLC will I avoid the freezing?

[Nitek_pl]

jla1987 wrote...

I'm still awaiting my copy in the mail, but this freezing/corruption problem makes me hesitant to open up the game when it arrives...

Forgive me if it's been asked, but if I play the game without connectinig to the internet and don't download any DLC will I avoid the freezing?

DLCs are installing with game so you won't avoid them.
As being posted turning auto save off or playing offline won't help.
Sorry mate.

[AnoHeartilly]

prazision wrote...

SpezXVII wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

RAF1940 wrote...

I don't understand this hostility. If you would actually read prazision's original post, he stated that this is uncommon. As he also said, a Google search turns up no other forums for this topic.

Did a quick Google search:

"mass effect 2"ps3 corrupt

About 2,600,000 results (0.11 seconds) 

Try it!

You know, it amazes me how people still don't have a clue about using proper search parameters. Great job giving them an example Fandango.

That's not a great example at all.  Every search result returned with those parameters has been created within the past day, and the only citation they give is this topic in this forum.

Again, if this were a very common, very widespread problem, there would be threads about it and news reports all over the place that DIDN'T simply cite this thread as evidence.  Again I will point out that this thread consists of literally around a dozen people harping on the issue.

As to the poster that says "consoles aren't supposed to freeze", you're ignorant, full stop.  Current-gen consoles are basically PCs.  There are many, many variables in play.  It's not like an SNES where the console is static - 360s and PS3s have hard drives, they have drivers, they have firmware, they have exponentially more variables than any other previous generation console.

If only a small number of people are experiencing an issue, then it is unique and mysterious enough that a patch is unlikely, simply because with such a small sample size you would basically need a Sony and a BioWareEA tech to come to your house and work for days analyzing your particular system.

New Vegas' bugs were very quickly patched because they were widespread.  None of these freezing issues or corrupted data issues are.

It is truly staggering how ignorant console gamers are of how exhaustive and unpredictable the bug testing process is.  It often takes hundreds of man-hours to even reproduce one bug reliably.

Yeah, because every single person who gets an error in the game immediately goes and posts everywhere they can about it, right?
You're clearly the ignorent one, I know of 4 people in person, and at least a dozen on my PSN alone that have had the data corruption issue, and the fact that MOST gaming sites have made a post about it (usually always also including replies of other people stating they got the corruption also), AND the fact that many people won't post either because they don't own a PC, they've contacted EA directly, they can't be bothered to make an account, or they don't want to echo other peoples replies - all adds up to it being IMPOSSIBLE for you to claim this glitch is uncommon

This can affect anyone, at anytime, and just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
Get lost. Fail troll is fail.

[jbh]

Just thought I should clarify on the bypass freeze problem due to it being in the "Freezing" thread. My game does not "freeze" when trying to bypass a safe or door, it simply stops responding to my controller and no minigame pops up. I think what is happening is this:

Press X to activate bypass minigame > System: Load bypass minigame data > System: Bypass minigame data corrupt/not found > System: Do nothing

If I position myself in a corner so I can still see my teammates after pressing X to bypass the door/safe I can see them moving around. Shepard still makes his idle movements he always makes when not pressing anything on the controller. The game is totally unresponsive to the controllers but music and sounds still play. My problem doesn't fit the exact description of a freeze.

Just thought I'd clarify that this isn't a standard freeze, more like missing or corrupted game data that can't be loaded/found so the game just stops trying and won't cancel the load request. Seems like this could be fixed quite easily by validating the install data and figuring out what is corrupted or a simple if/then statement. If bypass minigame data cant be found/loaded then open door/safe.

If your game isn't totally freezing you should note it when posting so the devs know it isn't a standard freeze.

Modifié par jbh, 26 janvier 2011 - 05:44 .

[jbh]

Going to backup my PS3 harddrive, format it, and reinstall the game without DLC. Then start a brand new game and see if it locks up on the first bypass safe. Will post results shortly

[prazision]

AnoHeartilly wrote...

I know of 4 people in person, and at least a dozen on my PSN alone that have had the data corruption issue

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data".  I can point you to a gaming thread where dozens of people have had the game freeze once or twice, or not at all, and none of them have had a corrupted save.

Are you talking about "freezing" or "corruption" now?  They're separate issues and Chris posted a fix for corrupted data in the other thread.

I don't think you know what a "troll" is.

[SR3]

prazision wrote...

Are you talking about "freezing" or "corruption" now?  They're separate issues

The two problems have been intimately related in nearly every reported instance in which the context of data corruption was specified.  I challenge you to find posters who have reported the latter problem that hasn't pointed to some sort of freeze (here I'm including non-progressing loading screens) at the moment at which data corruption occurs.  Bioware has been requesting for us to provide detailed information about the context in which corruption has occurred, so you should have plenty of reports to look over in the other threads.

prazision wrote...

and Chris posted a fix for corrupted data in the other thread.

Chris posted a suggestion for a temporary measure that users could turn to to possibly avoid this problem, which many of us were grateful for.  It is not yet a "fix" for corrupted data.  One does, however, appear to be in the works:

Chris Priestly wrote...

We are aware of the issue and we are working on a patch to fix it. 

Let me remind you that you once wrote - 

prazision wrote...]


The fact that they [BioWare] haven't said anything may be related to this being apparently a very uncommon problem.

Again, I challenge you to find a significant number of reports of corrupted data that aren't coupled with a report of a game freeze.  Until you provide this, it seems that the evidence is against you: you claimed that BioWare would not address the problem because it is too uncommon; they have now at least claim to have begun addressing to problem.

Although many of us have in fact shared disappointment with how BioWare has handled this issue, the best way to deal with your intransigence on this issue seems to be give them credit where credit is due, in order to put the lie to your arguments.

prazision wrote...

I don't think you know what a "troll" is.

Your comments throughout this thread have been guilty of bad faith argumentation, solipsistic reasoning, and general paranoia.  If you are truthful in your claim that you don't intend to be trolling, than the only other conclusion I can draw is that you have personality problems that must make interpersonal communication frequently difficult.

If I were prone to making paranoid, bad faith arguments like your own, I would say that you're secretly an XBox360 fanboy who infiltrates PS3 technical support forums in order to make PS3 owners look like craven sycophants who conduct purges on their own members in the course of defending their corporate masters (even while admitting to their system's own hardware problems!).

But I don't have that sort of paranoid imagination, so I'll just call you a troll instead, despite your protestations.

I'm already regretting wandering knee-deep into your muck.

(edited for clarity)

Modifié par SR3, 26 janvier 2011 - 09:41 .