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[Devotedgmr17]

A recent interview with Mike Laidlaw definitely revealed some more hints
at gameplay, DLC, and other things such as the time span the game will
take place in.
"DG: Are you guys pursuing the same type of DLC where it was
character-based, such as Leliana’s Song or Witch Hunt? Or are you
focusing on an “Awakenings” type overarching expansion?"

"ML: I can’t tell you officially. I think the thing I can say
with confidence is that I probably wouldn’t do another Leliana’s Song. I
thought it was really cool, and a lot of other people really liked it,
but I think Leliana could have been a stronger experience if it had been
Leliana and your warden, right?"

I
like how he admits that Leliana's Song was the weakest DLC, which I
think he's spot on with that. He doesn't state whether they're gonna
make another Awakening style DLC, but I have my fingers crossed.

Here is the full interview
pc.gamezone.com/editorials/item/dragon_age_iis_mike_laidlaw_discusses_downloadable_content/

[David Gaider]

He did not say it was the weakest DLC. He said we likely wouldn't do another DLC that doesn't involve your PC, as that weakens the experience for the player. That is not the same thing.

[Arthur Cousland]

Lelina's Song wasn't that bad, though they shouldn't have tried to re-tell her story, by changing up what happened. It should have taken place in Orlais, not Denerim, not changed how she came across the letters, etc. Also, not having the warden involved limits replayability, as there's really no reason to play it a second time, if all achievements were earned.



Leliana's Song was certainly better than Darkspawn Chronicles and probably Witch Hunt.

[Marionetten]

David Gaider wrote...

He did not say it was the weakest DLC. He said we likely wouldn't do another DLC that doesn't involve your PC, as that weakens the experience for the player. That is not the same thing.

That and not every player is going to enjoy the character which subsequently cuts into sales. It makes sense to focus on PC centric adventures.

[Ailith Tycane]

I think Lelianas song was sort of practice for Bioware to try out that framed narrative idea they're using in DA2, since I seem to recall it being stated that certain things in Leliana's Song were not necessarily 100% truthful of what actually happened, since shes a bard and was telling it as a story with a little extra embellishment.

[EmperorSahlertz]

They didn't neccesarily change anything. It is just the way Lelianna told the story. It's just a bard spinning a tale really. Wether it is the naked truth or not we will never know.

[Il Divo]

David Gaider wrote...

He did not say it was the weakest DLC. He said we likely wouldn't do another DLC that doesn't involve your PC, as that weakens the experience for the player. That is not the same thing.

Regardless, I'm glad to see that this was addressed. There was nothing wrong with Leliana's Song as far as content, but it bothered me for the same reason the Neverwinter Nights modules/Shadows of Undrentide did.It's simply not as fun roleplaying a different character when you're used to your main.

[Rinji the Bearded]

I do agree about the DLC-not-involving-PC being a less desirable idea, though Darkspawn Chronicles was kinda fun to play just once. I look forward to more PC-related content when it comes to DA2, however, and if we have any more DLCs that reveal the past of a certain character, somehow involve the PC as well... a framed narrative inside a framed narrative. Heh.

[Khayness]

No more Other Campaigns DLC please.

[HolyAvenger]

DSC was the worst DLC for me, I've got the UE of the game and that's the only one I can't bring myself to finish.



I enjoyed LS, despite the massive retcon. Provided a little preview of what DA2 will be like with VA'd protagonist.

[MKDAWUSS]

David Gaider wrote...

He did not say it was the weakest DLC. He said we likely wouldn't do another DLC that doesn't involve your PC, as that weakens the experience for the player. That is not the same thing.

How so? If it was integrated into the main game a bit more (and let's face it, Leliana's Song and Darkspawn Chronicles weren't tied into the main game at all [and yes, I know DSC wasn't supposed to be]), it could work. Being the same PC does get old after a while.

[BTCentral]

Lelina's Song was probably my favourite DLC, but sure it may have been better if it had involved the PC.
Darkspawn Chronicles being my least favourite.

Yet both were playthroughs as a different character.

In my opinion: Leliana's Song > Witch Hunt > Golems of Amgarrak > Darkspawn Chronicles.
I'd love it if DA2 DLC had the same level of enjoyment as the ME2 DLC did for me.

Also... quoting from the locked dupe topic:

Avalla'ch wrote...

Warden's and Leli's adventures across Orlais or even Val Royeaux?

Please Biowear, make it happen and I will gladly rain down my money upon ye.

Yes. Please BioWare

Modifié par BTCentral, 19 janvier 2011 - 04:44 .

[MKDAWUSS]

DSerpa wrote...

There were obvious rooms for improvement. The biggies for us were visuals, especially trying to at least achieve a degree of parody between console and PC.

Transcription fail.

Freudian slip

[InvaderErl]

Leliana's Song was the best of a bad bunch.



I feel confident though that we'll see better DLC's this time around much as we did with ME2.

[Il Divo]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

How so? If it was integrated into the main game a bit more (and let's face it, Leliana's Song and Darkspawn Chronicles weren't tied into the main game at all [and yes, I know DSC wasn't supposed to be]), it could work. Being the same PC does get old after a while.

I don't see anything wrong with a new PC being an option for a dlc, but I think the problem with not letting us play the Warden is that it's difficult to become attached to this new character that we are using for a few hours at best. The Warden has history, we played him/her back when they were a fledgling up until they killed the archdemon so we typically have a deeper attachment to the character. It's the same reason why people liked the companion characters in Golems/Witch Hunt far less; we didn't really get to know the.

[Images]

David Gaider wrote...

He did not say it was the weakest DLC. He said we likely wouldn't do another DLC that doesn't involve your PC, as that weakens the experience for the player. That is not the same thing.

So out of interest, what do the team think of as their weakest DLC? I know they're you're children and you love them all equally in some measure, but come on, whose the Ivy League prospect and who do you shake your head at, hoping they move out of your basement someday?

[pitchblaq]

None of the DLC was all that good, unfortunately. Certainly none of the ones that took place outside of the Origins timeline. Things like Return to Ostagar, The Stone Prisoner, and Warden's Keep are good additions, but I almost regretted buying ones like Golems of Amgarrak, Leliana's Song, Darkspawn Chronicles, and most certainly Witch Hunt.



I loved Awakening, though.



I think the problem for me is that Dragon Age doesn't lend itself well to mini-campaigns.



Not that it needs to be prefaced as such, but this is obviously just my opinion.

[MKDAWUSS]

Khayness wrote...

No more Other Campaigns DLC please.

I think Other Campaigns DLC can work better with DA2, probably moreso if they also used the framed narrative that the main campaign has. Not to mention that they allow for a quick continuation of the storyline and allow the players to get a quick Dragon Age fix.

[tmp7704]

Devotedgmr17 wrote...

"ML:  I think the thing I can say with confidence is that I probably wouldn’t do another Leliana’s Song. I
thought it was really cool, and a lot of other people really liked it, but I think Leliana could have been a stronger experience if it had been Leliana and your warden, right?"

"i really liked it"

"lots of people really liked it, in fact"

"we're not gonna make another one like that"

...

i got nuthin'

[FedericoV]

Leliana's Song as far as I'm concerned was the better DA:O's DLC post day-1 (I mean, Shale and Warden Keep were better). Yep, I missed the Warden and I do not like all the recycle of used areas (not that the other DLC were that different in that regard...) but the storytelling was interesting and fresh.

In general, I hope that for DA2 the DLC will be on the same level of ME2 ones or I would not buy them at all.

Modifié par FedericoV, 19 janvier 2011 - 04:37 .

[Xewaka]

tmp7704 wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...
"I think the thing I can say with confidence is that I probably wouldn’t do another Leliana’s Song. I
thought it was really cool, and a lot of other people really liked it, but I think Leliana could have been a stronger experience if it had been Leliana and your warden, right?"

"i really liked it"
"lots of people really liked it, in fact"
"we're not gonna make another one like that"
...
i got nuthin'

Yes, that logical proccess is a bit hard to follow.

[A_Grey_Warden]

Strange! I really felt Leliana's Song was the best DLC for Origins. Maybe because I was allowed to play a new character; it felt fresh, and made me sympathise more with the character and feel close to her.

[silentassassin264]

Devotedgmr17 wrote...


I
like how he admits that Leliana's Song was the weakest DLC, which I
think he's spot on with that.

Are you serious? 

 Leliana's Song was the best Dragon Age DLC/expansion by far.  

[DPB]

Xewaka wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...
"I think the thing I can say with confidence is that I probably wouldn’t do another Leliana’s Song. I
thought it was really cool, and a lot of other people really liked it, but I think Leliana could have been a stronger experience if it had been Leliana and your warden, right?"

"i really liked it"
"lots of people really liked it, in fact"
"we're not gonna make another one like that"
...
i got nuthin'

Yes, that logical proccess is a bit hard to follow.

I don't see what's so hard to understand. He thought it was good, but it could have been better.