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[Piecake]

FreezaSama wrote...

I have an idea. Keep Tom Hardy for Bane, fire everyone else... then cast Deadshot, Scandal Savage, Jeanette, Ragdoll and Catman, and make a Secret Six movie. Now that, I would go see.

You, and 2 other people

[Bryy_Miller]

Hathaway is going to kick ass. Hardy... well, the only reason that he's in this film is because Christopher Nolan is the WB's golden child.

[HoonDing]

I'm looking forward more to Catwoman in Arkham Asylum 2.

[enerqy]

I love Christopher Nolan, but the last movie in the trilogy usually never usurps the predecessors. Most scriptwriters and directors don't know how to END a story (like me, ha!). Losing Heath Ledger was no doubt a blow, and writing around that was most probably a major roadblock for TDKR. But I'll reserve judgement...because I did the same with TDK, and we all know how that turned out!

[Wynne]

It's not like Anne Hathaway's never done a fight scene before. Skip to 0:40 and you'll see what she's got; keep in mind that's a comedic movie, but she still seems pretty intent on kicking ass. She's also said the she wanted to try tougher roles, so maybe she was impressive in auditions.

I think Marion Cotillard and Ellen Page, Nolan's most recent female leads, are proof enough that Nolan has learned his lesson. Despite Holmes, I trust him.

Modifié par Wynne, 22 janvier 2011 - 02:04 .

[Leeroi]

Kate Beckinsale should've been cast as Catwoman... she'd have been perfect for the role.

[Deathwurm]

Hathaway doesn't jump immediately to mind as Selina, but she can act and Selina is usually portrayed not only as Athletic but curvy as well...done right and with a bit more muscle I think she can pull it off...
Don't know anything about Hardy but he looks big enough to play Bane (who in the Comics is a bit smaller since getting off the Venom-Steroid he was originally using to get that big) I honestly can't think of anyone large enough in Real Life who can really act to match the way Bane is drawn...he is about a 1 in 10 million occurance as far as physical size...
Put me in the camp that trusts Nolan...he's made some small changes in the Bat-Mythos for the Movies (like Bruce Wayne needing someone else to help him design scientific equipment) but those changes were nowhere near as egregious as the way Tim Burton handled things!
I'm a life-long Bat-Fan who just recently had to get out of Comics due to budget woes and I've seen the respect Nolan gives the Iconic character and appreciate it.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:25 .

[Tazzmission]

you know i would keep hatheway but have her play talia ghul instead of catwoman.

[slimgrin]

Deathwurm wrote...

Hathaway doesn't jump immediately to mind as Selina, but she can act and Selina is usually portrayed not only as Athletic but curvy as well...done right and with a bit more muscle I think she can pull it off...
Don't know anything about Hardy but he looks big enough to play Bane (who in the Comics is a bit smaller since getting off the Venom-Steroid he was originally using to get that big) I honestly can't think of anyone large enough in Real Life who can really act to match the way Bane is drawn...he is about a 1 in 10 million occurance as far as physical size...
Put me in the camp that trusts Nolan...he's made some small changes in the Bat-Mythos for the Movies (like Bruce Wayne needing someone else to help him design scientific equipment) but those changes were nowhere near as egregious as the way Tim Burton handled things!
I'm a life-long Bat-Fan who just recently had to get out of Comics due to budget woes and I've seen the respect Nolan gives the Iconic character and appreciate it.

Totally agree. I only own two Batman comics, the killing joke and Hush. Nolan has a certain reverence to the comics that exemplify Batman as someone real, not campy and over the top. I really like most of his logic behind both movies, especially Batman begins. I think both movies are on equal terms, honestly, because he got a little crazy with the plot in the Dark Knight.

I'm thrilled they are including Kyle. If she actually dons the suit, it will be a big challenge though. The Nolan series has stressed realism to the point that Catwoman is going to strain the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Not saying he can't do it, it's just going to be hard. 

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:36 .

[LiquidGrape]

I'm pleased Nolan is going to rectify the sausage-fest of the two previous films, but less pleased about Hathaway. I just never considered her to be a very good actress.
But I'll just wait and see. The very inclusion of a female character other than whatshername played by terrible Katie Holmes and great-but-struggling-with-the-lack-of-material Maggie Gyllenhaal is a step up.

Either way, let's face it, no casting choice would ever be able to match the definitive incarnation.

[slimgrin]

Sausage fest?...really? Please do elaborate.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:40 .

[Tazzmission]

slimgrin wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...

Hathaway doesn't jump immediately to mind as Selina, but she can act and Selina is usually portrayed not only as Athletic but curvy as well...done right and with a bit more muscle I think she can pull it off...
Don't know anything about Hardy but he looks big enough to play Bane (who in the Comics is a bit smaller since getting off the Venom-Steroid he was originally using to get that big) I honestly can't think of anyone large enough in Real Life who can really act to match the way Bane is drawn...he is about a 1 in 10 million occurance as far as physical size...
Put me in the camp that trusts Nolan...he's made some small changes in the Bat-Mythos for the Movies (like Bruce Wayne needing someone else to help him design scientific equipment) but those changes were nowhere near as egregious as the way Tim Burton handled things!
I'm a life-long Bat-Fan who just recently had to get out of Comics due to budget woes and I've seen the respect Nolan gives the Iconic character and appreciate it.

Totally agree. I only own two Batman comics, the killing joke and Hush. Nolan has a certain reverence to the comics that exemplify Batman as someone real, not campy and over the top. I really like most of his logic behind both movies, especially Batman begins. I think both movies are on equal terms, honestly, because he got a little crazy with the plot in the Dark Knight.

I'm thrilled they are including Kyle. If she actually dons the suit, it will be a big challenge though. The Nolan series has stressed realism to the point that Catwoman is going to strain the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Not saying he can't do it, it's just going to be hard. 

maybe anne dosent don the feline costume. for all we know she could be the love replacment seeing as rachel was killed. 

[Deathwurm]

@ slimgrin...If you only were allowed to own 2 Batman Comics...those would be the two I would pick! "Killing Joke" is probably the BEST Bat-Story ever and "Hush" was just pure Genius! I hope you at least got a chance to read (if not own) some of Hush's later appearances because not only is he a great enemy for Batman...he's developed quite an interesting antagonistic relationship with the Joker.

[netfire_]

I loved Michelle Pfeiffer, but Anne will be absolutely perfect. Rachel Getting Married was a lousy movie, but she was so brilliant in it as a train wreck of a woman.

[Brockololly]

PureMethodActor wrote..

Brock,

just wanted to know something about the pic you posted...

Is that by any chance a screen or something from the film "Bronson"?

I'm a skeptic for Hardy as Bane (rather than the Riddler, which was rumored for so long), but one of my friends went all fanatic on me and suggested I watch "Bronson" and then he said, and I quote "And THEN you will understand why Hardy as Bane is a good choice"

so yeah, I'm hoping to watch "Bronson" if I ever get the chance, so is that what I have to look foward to? If so, awesome, he looks really badass there.

Oh yeah, thats Hardy in Bronson- you can see the trailer for it here.

[In Exile]

I'm skeptical of Bane. I'm not a major fan of the Batman comics, but from what I've read about Bane, he's basically some kind of Mary Sue supergenius/strongman. Which, technically, isn't very different from Batman's Mary Sue supergenius/martial artists, though his rogue gallery tends to outmatch him in one respect often.

I'm a big fan of Hathaway. I think people don't give her enough credit in terms of her capacity to be seductive. I think she'll surprise a lot of people as Selina Kyle.

[slimgrin]

Come on, In Exile...Mary Sue?

What a dreadfully fickle term.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 08:35 .

[In Exile]

slimgrin wrote...

Come on, In Exile...Mary Sue?

What a dreadfully fickle term.

I think it's a good characterization of most western comic book heroes. But like I said: I don't know very much about Bane.

When you start giving character descriptions like this:

Bane is highly intelligent; in "Bane of the Demon", Ra's
al Ghul says that Bane "has a mind equal to the greatest he has
known."[7]
In prison, he taught himself various scientific disciplines equal to
the level of understanding of leading experts in those fields.[4]
He knows six active languages and at least two additional arcane and dead ones, those mentioned are Spanish, English, Urdu, Persian, and Latin.[7]
The "Bane of the Demon" storyline reveals that he has a photographic memory. Within one year, he is able to deduce
Batman's secret identity.[7]

It makes it quite hard for me to take the character seriously. "Taught himself various scientific disciplines equal to leading experts?" Seriously? And to that we add: plus he's super strong and tall and...

It just makes me think of self-insert fan-fiction.

ETA:

Plus there is this part:

He is also highly devious and a superb strategist and tactician.[4]
In prison, Bane also invented his own form of calisthenics,
meditation,
and a unique fighting style.[7]
Usage of Venom enhances his physical abilities, including his strength,
and healing process to superhuman
levels.[5][32][33

Modifié par In Exile, 22 janvier 2011 - 08:52 .

[Deathwurm]

@In Exile: As you said...you don't know very much about Bane and those descriptions you've cited are simple distillations of long story-lines.
The character was originally intended to be Batman's equal in almost every way except for the use of the Strength increasing and highly physically Addictive Venom mentioned.
Some things you haven't cited: He was in Prison since childhood for Crimes his Father commited in a small Island Nation called Santa Prisca. He developed his own form of calisthenics, meditation, and fighting style on his own because there was no one to teach him. He taught himself all the things he learned through reading.
He was; again, designed as a Villian who would match Batman/Bruce Wayne in every way and be his Polar Opposite as far as Morality due to the Trauma he suffered throughout childhood. He was, in short the Negative-Batman.
But, you don't seem to enjoy "Western comic book heroes" as you stated, so I don't think I can change your mind and you are entitled to your Opinion.
I do enjoy American comics and absolutely hate Manga because while different in style the Heroes are no more or less believable and many are as generic to me as you view American Comic Heroes...
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 22 janvier 2011 - 09:11 .

[Noir201]

She might be a good pick, i know i hold judgement till i see the film, i am more intrested in who will be playing Talia Al Ghul, with ofc what happened in the first film, plus i love both Talia and Catwoman chars both being strong, mystic chars, my biggest disapointment from the two movies has been the lack of really good female chars that always are helpless and need saving, so really looking forward to the film.

Regrading the link from Batman Returns, Catwoman for me made that film, remember when it first came out, was fantastic, shame Poison Ivy was in Batman and Robin was awfull for such a great char

Modifié par Noir201, 22 janvier 2011 - 11:27 .

[Sliat]

slimgrin wrote...

 He screwed up with Holmes, and I think he screwed up with Gyllenhaal too. Neither of them held their own with the rest of the cast.

I agree (disliked Gyllenhaal a whole lot more though) but I'm a little bias because I didn't like the character at all.

[Funkcase]

Brockololly wrote...

PureMethodActor wrote..

Brock,

just wanted to know something about the pic you posted...

Is that by any chance a screen or something from the film "Bronson"?

I'm a skeptic for Hardy as Bane (rather than the Riddler, which was rumored for so long), but one of my friends went all fanatic on me and suggested I watch "Bronson" and then he said, and I quote "And THEN you will understand why Hardy as Bane is a good choice"

so yeah, I'm hoping to watch "Bronson" if I ever get the chance, so is that what I have to look foward to? If so, awesome, he looks really badass there.

Oh yeah, thats Hardy in Bronson- you can see the trailer for it here.

Bronson is a brilliant film.


I have concerns with The Dark knight rises, without Ledger, i'm concerned what they will do with the Joke? Will he appear with someone else playing him? Or will they find a way to end the Jokers story without him in the film?