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TripedWire wrote...

I hope you don't mind but I made a thread in the general ME discussion area and pasted some of your post.

**** is unreal



I don't mind at all, please feel free to post that anywhere you want. The truth needs to be heard. I'm so bummed now that I'm straight up DONE with Mass Effect 2. I'm NOT playing it a 3rd time in the HOPES that i make it through the omega 4 relay. Worst part is, I can't go back and finish up Assassin's creed brotherhood or heavy rain now. ALL THOSE SAVES ARE GONE DUE TO THIS INCOMPETENCE..... This is sooo whack. The fact that Bioware is now asking the paying consumers to do the QA on this game makes me sick. I paid you, not the other way around.

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Sashassin wrote...

TripedWire wrote...

I hope you don't mind but I made a thread in the general ME discussion area and pasted some of your post.

**** is unreal



I don't mind at all, please feel free to post that anywhere you want. The truth needs to be heard. I'm so bummed now that I'm straight up DONE with Mass Effect 2. I'm NOT playing it a 3rd time in the HOPES that i make it through the omega 4 relay. Worst part is, I can't go back and finish up Assassin's creed brotherhood or heavy rain now. ALL THOSE SAVES ARE GONE DUE TO THIS INCOMPETENCE..... This is sooo whack. The fact that Bioware is now asking the paying consumers to do the QA on this game makes me sick. I paid you, not the other way around.


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Its not like im trying to defend this issue, but afaik "hdd corruption" could happen due to any game freeze so dont connect it with ME2 as a highly possible thing.

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I have two separate playthroughs going and both of them have over 55 hours. I'm going to be really, really angry if this happens when my girlfriend and I finally get around to LOTSB.

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JeffZero wrote...

I have two separate playthroughs going and both of them have over 55 hours. I'm going to be really, really angry if this happens when my girlfriend and I finally get around to LOTSB.


Try not to if it's possible. Just in case :)
30 hours is not 55 but still... I've lost it.

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Look like I'm going to wait until the game get a patch to play it. My game it's on my way home from Amazon so hope Bioware could fix this soon this week or early next one.

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Nitek_pl wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I have two separate playthroughs going and both of them have over 55 hours. I'm going to be really, really angry if this happens when my girlfriend and I finally get around to LOTSB.


Try not to if it's possible. Just in case :)
30 hours is not 55 but still... I've lost it.


Hey, at that point it's almost just as bad. 30 hours is still a very long time. My heart goes out to you, my friend. And to all who have lost their saves... I hope I'm not to be counted among you, but if it happens, at least I'm not alone?
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Just had this happen to me.

The game locked up after the mission completion briefing following completing the Haven mission.  It froze on the loading screen after finishing with the briefing.  The system wouldn't respond to any inputs, had to power-cycle my console and the save file was corrupted when teh system powered back up.

I had been playing for about an hour and a half in this sitting, leveled from 8-10, with roughly 46 hours of total gametime logged, and had previously completed a couple of the DLC missions.

I am playing the PSN download version of the game, if that makes a difference.

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Lipek90 wrote...

Its not like im trying to defend this issue, but afaik "hdd corruption" could happen due to any game freeze so dont connect it with ME2 as a highly possible thing.


It wasn't a game "hard freeze", i was on a damn loading screen, all the music, backround art, and loading icon were still working, it just WONT LEAVE THE LOADING SCREEN. Its not that the game froze up on me during a shootout or conversation. I was still able to quit out of the game the "PROPER WAY" as indicated in the playstation manual. But by quitting out this way, everything was deleted. Other people all over are reporting this, and most of the cases seem to be the games getting stuck on loading screens that never end. When you quit out or turn off your system, (you have to do one of those 2 options....) you have a high chance that your data or hdd will be fried. It is NOT the consumer's fault here, there is obviously a widespread problem. Its not like we're in a court room and im arguing to win a settlement, its all gone, lost forever, and i know that. BUT IT WAS BIOWARE'S LACK OF QA THAT CAUSED IT. plain ol' fact.

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And, for what it's worth, I'm running a launch model 20gb system refitted with a 500gb hdd.

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Lipek90 wrote...

Its not like im trying to defend this issue, but afaik "hdd corruption" could happen due to any game freeze so dont connect it with ME2 as a highly possible thing.


I have had my system since launch, have upgraded the hdd twice, and seen a number of hard freezes (ie - not even PS button responds, only thing you can do is power-cycle the machine to hard reboot) from both downloaded and disc based games (I'm looking at you Fallout: New Vegas).  In that time I have never seen a lockup generate corrupted data files.

I feel very sure that this issue is totally connected to ME2.  The game is suicidally broken and needs to be repaired, end of line.

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To address posts by BioWare developers, I will repost the circumstances of my problem.

1> where the crash occurred that caused the save to become corrupt

Lair of the Shadow Broker, during the loading screen immediately following the choice of which party member to accompany you in the skycar.

Incidentally, I saved just before the last door in that building, as I had a feeling a cutscene would follow it.  Hard freezes (PS button unresponsive; manual shutdown required) had occurred with considerable frequency throughout that profile, at a rate of roughly once every three or four hours.

2> How many levels in a row you played beforehand

I'd say two; three at most.  I remember finishing Jacob's loyalty mission directly beforehand.

3> How long you were playing concurrently beforehand

I can't answer this with any real certainty.  If I guessed, I would say five or six hours.

Modifié par exegesis, 26 janvier 2011 - 03:29 .


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BUY A PC

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schoust wrote...

BUY A PC


Some people are not comfortable with keyboard controls.

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Capeo wrote...

Wait, please don't tell me you guys were only playing with one save? I hear that all the time and it blows my mind. RPGs, guys, 10 save minimum.

On the other hand, if all your saves got corrupted then that is just nuts. I ended my session last night with a freeze. Hopefully I'll have no issues when I go home to play tonight.


This is something I don't understand. Why have more than one save on an RPG? I don't see how it makes sense.

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im glad i checked these forums before playing the game, just recently pick it up for the ps3, though i've had mass effect 1& 2 since the day they were released and i've never had a problem with either on xbox, but i recently got rid of my 360 so i picked it up for ps3, hopefully they can have a fix for this soon because i really would hate to waste 30+ hours for no reason

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KainDrake wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Wait, please don't tell me you guys were only playing with one save? I hear that all the time and it blows my mind. RPGs, guys, 10 save minimum.

On the other hand, if all your saves got corrupted then that is just nuts. I ended my session last night with a freeze. Hopefully I'll have no issues when I go home to play tonight.


This is something I don't understand. Why have more than one save on an RPG? I don't see how it makes sense.



There's a multitude of reasons.

1.) Disk  failure: There's a reason people tell you to make backups of essential data on your computer, in case of memory and disk failure. When a hard disk is no longer operable, recovering data from it is a very long, arduous, and paiful process. And there's absolutely no gaurantee that the data can be recovered. Over time, a hard disk become more and more suceptible to failure, for a variety of reasons. Head crashing into the disk platter is one of the most prolific causes of hard disk damage. Damage caused by impact is another leading factor. Parts inside of the hard disk can also break down, like the air filters that normalize internal pressure and keep particulate matter from landing on the disk platter.

2.) Power surges/blackouts/power loss: One can never know when a power outage can occur in their building. There's a reason that the game tells you not to turn the power off of your console while it saves the game. If the memory at that particular address is not fully written, it isn't recognized as a valid save file, and the system refers to it as corrupted. This is even more problematic when it comes to Mass Effect 2, because they decided it would be a good idea to keep all the saves in one protected file for each career. Meaning, if your game freezes like many people on the board have reported, there's a good chance you'll be losing all your saves, because of the way they're saved on the console.

3.) Game glitches/bugs/unfavorable conditions: This one is less common, but there's bound to be a few bugs in a game after it's released, as evidenced by the recent Fallout: New Vegas, and of course, Mass Effect 2. Nothing sucks more than investing 40+ hours into a game, only to come to something like an invisble wall, or a nulled out character dialogue option. And since you didn't have any prior saves to this point, guess what? You're going to have to start all over again from the beginning. Now the other part of this, is that some people have multiple saves because of gameplay choices. In quite a few RPGs released during this modern age, the game offers a multitude of ways to tackle a situation, the prime candiate being, once again, Mass Effect 2. During the course of the game, you'll get choices that can either make an area easier, or difficult, depending on your playstyle. Perhaps you come across a group of mercs who are unsure of whether they should be attacking you? If you Charm/Intimidate them, there's a good chance that you'll make them leave peacefully, without needing to engage in pointless conflict and spend heatsinks on something you could've avoided. In other games, multiple saves can be useful in case the game doesn't allow a New Game+, or an ability to continue missions/quests after you've defeated the big bad. If you have a save right before the final fight, you can go and comlete anything you missed before you beat it again.

So yeah, those are only a small glimpse of what the benefits of multiple saves bring you. Now, do I think it should be necessary to back-up/make multiple saves in a game in order to ensure you don't lose progress? Absolutely not. In this case, more testing should've occured in order to ensure that save games were being properly written, and of course, they should've eliminated the entire "encrypted file which contains all the saves for that career."

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Wow good thing my files didn't get corrupted. The game froze on me 3 times in 25 minutes, 2 while in the loading screen, one during a cutscene. I restarted my ps3, file was still there but the settings returned to default.

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Sorry to all of those who had this happen. I've been playing since ME1 on the 360 (no gloating), and if it lost my ME2 save now...ARGH!



Pull your finger out Bioware! this is your FLAGSHIP FRANCHISE.

(KotOR is the one you RENT. M.E is the one you OWN.)

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 Why oh why do some game developers have to copy protect the save files in this situation you could use your back up save from a memory stick for example

Maybe a help to somebody
http://community.eu....s/td-p/12299428

Modifié par Shiroi ryu, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:05 .


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OK listen BIOWARE.

I am absolutely fed up with developers launching bugged or untested software.

Why the hell are the savegames backup-protected?! Seriously, WHY?

What you COULD do for us is, bring out a little patch NOW that removes the backup-protection. Then we could at least save our savegames to an USB-stick and restore the file in case of a crash. In the meantime your (paid) devs could do what they were paid for. I paid 60 € for a software that simply deletes my efforts and that prevents me from saving my game?!

But no, that´s probably "not possible for technical reasons" or some other kind of idiotic reason.

DO something. This message spreads quicker in the internet than you might imagine.

I haven´t preordered Mass Effect 2 to wait for you guys releasing a bugfix for a problem that shouldn´t even exist.
If we don´t have a solution this week then this was the last game from bioware that I´ve spent money on. Cancelled my Dragon Age 2 preorder by the way.

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I'm 8 hours in and haven't had anything happen and I happened upon this thread (from Kotaku) so I will put this game on the back burner (I don't really want to) until this gets fixed. I really like ME2 Bioware. :(

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Bughunter wrote...

OK listen BIOWARE.

I am absolutely fed up with developers launching bugged or untested software.

Why the hell are the savegames backup-protected?! Seriously, WHY?

What you COULD do for us is, bring out a little patch NOW that removes the backup-protection. Then we could at least save our savegames to an USB-stick and restore the file in case of a crash. In the meantime your (paid) devs could do what they were paid for. I paid 60 € for a software that simply deletes my efforts and that prevents me from saving my game?!

But no, that´s probably "not possible for technical reasons" or some other kind of idiotic reason.

DO something. This message spreads quicker in the internet than you might imagine.

I haven´t preordered Mass Effect 2 to wait for you guys releasing a bugfix for a problem that shouldn´t even exist.
If we don´t have a solution this week then this was the last game from bioware that I´ve spent money on. Cancelled my Dragon Age 2 preorder by the way.



errr... you can backup your savegame...

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Nitek_pl wrote...

Bughunter wrote...

OK listen BIOWARE.

I am absolutely fed up with developers launching bugged or untested software.

Why the hell are the savegames backup-protected?! Seriously, WHY?

What you COULD do for us is, bring out a little patch NOW that removes the backup-protection. Then we could at least save our savegames to an USB-stick and restore the file in case of a crash. In the meantime your (paid) devs could do what they were paid for. I paid 60 € for a software that simply deletes my efforts and that prevents me from saving my game?!

But no, that´s probably "not possible for technical reasons" or some other kind of idiotic reason.

DO something. This message spreads quicker in the internet than you might imagine.

I haven´t preordered Mass Effect 2 to wait for you guys releasing a bugfix for a problem that shouldn´t even exist.
If we don´t have a solution this week then this was the last game from bioware that I´ve spent money on. Cancelled my Dragon Age 2 preorder by the way.



errr... you can backup your savegame...


I can make a backup of my hard-drive, yes. Including 300 GB of Data. I can´t copy my savegames to an USB-Stick though...

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The problem is with the PS3 in case anyone hadn't noticed. Not Mass Effect itself.

The PS3 loves to lock up when certain things happened on the hardware and "OS" level. Its not the fault of the Bioware developers that Sony doesn't know how to properly make the underlying "OS" system.

I've had other games lock up the system.  Most noteable being CoD: Black Ops.

btw, this is why I love playing games through the PC.  I don't have to deal with things like this.  If the game crashes then it doesn't take the entire system with it on PC.

Modifié par Kigen, 26 janvier 2011 - 12:52 .