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[Jobrill]

 While Dark Horse's art is admittedly atrocious as always, I am 100% in favor of Female Aliens who don't conform to human standards of beauty, and would have 0 trouble if Female Turians show up in ME3 (or a future ME2 DLC) looking like this.

[Omega-202]

Shavon wrote...

I would have expected better!

Some species of birds, the females are more decorated than the males, why didn't they just do that?

D=

Do you mind naming some?  

For the most part, its the other way around.  Males are bright and have the large plummage, females are dull and camoflauged.  This makes sense due to females being the nesters and the males being the defenders.  The males have to scare away or distract predators while the females sit on the nest and hide.  Not to mention mating plummage.  

Examples:
-peacocks
-Ostriches
-Many parrot species
-Quails and Pheasants 
-Mallard ducks (heck 90% of all ducks)
-A lot of raptor species (falcons, eagles etc.)

Turians fit the correct pattern for Earth birds.  

[skyferret]

Shorter plummage != lack of plummage.

inspiration != trufax for comparison.

Modifié par skyferret, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:02 .

[Eradyn]

Small fringe is more than fine.  But there's no fringe to speak of with DH's interpretation.  There was no fan assumption regarding the existence of a fringe on female turians...that was established by BW itself in-game via Garrus and the turian at the bachelor party.

Hopefully DH's interpretation is just that...their interpretation...which has been pretty crappy across the board for all aliens and humans they have churned out for the comics thus far.

Also, birds are varied.  There are many species of sexually dimorphous birds, yes...but there are many who are sexually monomorphous as well.  And the degree of dimorphism also varies...some look like different species, some have only vague differences (and sometimes even then it's only at particular times of the year such as with the Vasa parrot).  And again, you have the sexually monomorphous species where males and females are the spitting image of each other.

To say that turians MUST show extreme sexual dimorphism because they have avian qualities is untrue. 

NOW THAT SAID: If BW ultimately goes with DH's interpretation in ME3, then that's what they do.  It's their choice.  I'd be very disappointed with them upending their own canon (again, I suppose) and it does mess with my head canon (in my defense, I had attempted to keep it within the realm of what was then-currently revealed by canon).  I can't say I'm thrilled with this interpretation.  If anything, it makes me want to writhe.  But I will accept whatever BW ultimately settles on and if this becomes canon then... *shudders* ...it becomes canon.

For now...I am going to chalk this up to DH-fail, which is pretty common with their comics now.

Modifié par Eradyn, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:15 .

[Omega-202]

skyferret wrote...

Shorter plummage != lack of plummage.

inspiration != trufax for comparison.

You're kidding right?  

Look at the first picture.  Look at it.  Its pretty obvious that her top "spike" is not lying flat against her head.  There's a GAP lifting her fringe up and off her head.  Its a fringe, just a small one.  

Also, there's going to be variation between members of a species.  The Turian we see HAS A FRINGE, its just really small.  Other females may have slightly larger ones.  

Honestly, the people complaining must simply have nothing better to do.  

Whining and complaining about a LIE =/= an issue

[Nightwriter]

Omega-202 wrote...

Based on their avian inspiration, they make perfect sense. Slighter build, shorter "plummage", more earthy/brown-yellow color...that's exactly what you'd expect from a female bird of prey. Male birds are the ones with brighter colors and fancier plumes.
You can't expect a female bird alien to have ta-tas. At that point, BioWare would lose all remaining self respect. Its hard enough to believe that Quarians and Asari also have (what appear to be) mammary glands in the same location as humans.
It could always be worse, they could have made them even more alien and drove home the "Turians are super militaristic Romans" point by making the females a complete caricature where they are second class and below/inferior to the males.

So they're to be congratulated for making female aliens that don't conform to Earth conceptions of femininity, but it's okay that they make female aliens that follow Earth conceptions of avian biology?

Veeeeeeery interesting.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:13 .

[Bluko]

I'd figure they'd have more exotic head fringes. Yes Turians are avian like, but they do not lay eggs as far I know. I mean I expected Turians to look fairly similair, but the comic almost makes the females seem more masculine. I mean yes obviously Turian females are't going to have boobs, but you'd figure they'd be slightly different in stature from the males. Eh whatever, don't know if we'll see this in ME3, but if we do hopefully they'll at least have feminine voices.

[Jobrill]

Turians are not earth birds.

[morrie23]

They were never going to please everyone, much like if they ever show a quarian. I personally like the Femturians.

Modifié par morrie23, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:18 .

[skyferret]

Omega-202 wrote...

You're kidding right?  

Look at the first picture.  Look at it.  Its pretty obvious that her top "spike" is not lying flat against her head.  There's a GAP lifting her fringe up and off her head.  Its a fringe, just a small one.  

Also, there's going to be variation between members of a species.  The Turian we see HAS A FRINGE, its just really small.  Other females may have slightly larger ones.  

Honestly, the people complaining must simply have nothing better to do.  

Whining and complaining about a LIE =/= an issue

Compare that 'fringe' to the size of the rest of her head. It's miniscule. No. A bird with a single feather is a doomed bird, going along with your frequent turians are birds! idealogy.

[Babli]

They just cant draw aliens. Look at Wrex in Genesis comics. Nuff said.

[Eradyn]

Babli wrote...

They just cant draw aliens. Look at Wrex in Genesis comics. Nuff said.

Not just the aliens.  They can't get the humans right, either. XD

[Sunnie]

Omega-202 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

I would have expected better!

Some species of birds, the females are more decorated than the males, why didn't they just do that?

D=

Do you mind naming some?  

For the most part, its the other way around.  Males are bright and have the large plummage, females are dull and camoflauged.  This makes sense due to females being the nesters and the males being the defenders.  The males have to scare away or distract predators while the females sit on the nest and hide.  Not to mention mating plummage.  

Examples:
-peacocks
-Ostriches
-Many parrot species
-Quails and Pheasants 
-Mallard ducks (heck 90% of all ducks)
-A lot of raptor species (falcons, eagles etc.)

Turians fit the correct pattern for Earth birds.  

Don't forget Earth bugs, 99% of the species we know about, the males are the most colorful. Beside, Turians more closely resemble crickets anyway...

[Nightwriter]

So right off the bat, as a woman, I'm finding the female turians sexier than the males. Is that bad?

Of course, when they talk their voices will ruin it for me. Unless they have oddly raspy, masculine voices...

[DirtyVagrant]

Eradyn wrote...

Babli wrote...

They just cant draw aliens. Look at Wrex in Genesis comics. Nuff said.

Not just the aliens.  They can't get the humans right, either. XD

The humans are fine, at least in the printed comics, I don't know about Genesis. I don't have that because... I have ME1.

[wulf3n]

while it could have been worse *cough* WoW *cough* i still lol'd.



I personally would have preferred it if there was no difference between the male and female turians, then have bioware go "You guys are just racist, can't tell Turians apart, shame on you"

[Eradyn]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Babli wrote...

They just cant draw aliens. Look at Wrex in Genesis comics. Nuff said.

Not just the aliens.  They can't get the humans right, either. XD

The humans are fine, at least in the printed comics, I don't know about Genesis. I don't have that because... I have ME1.

I meant regarding them trying to draw the canon characters.  Yeah, humans look human (generally).  The aliens are usually off.

Modifié par Eradyn, 20 janvier 2011 - 01:33 .

[DirtyVagrant]

Eradyn wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

Babli wrote...

They just cant draw aliens. Look at Wrex in Genesis comics. Nuff said.

Not just the aliens.  They can't get the humans right, either. XD

The humans are fine, at least in the printed comics, I don't know about Genesis. I don't have that because... I have ME1.

I meant regarding them trying to draw the canon characters.  Yeah, humans look human (generally).  The aliens are usually off.

Ahhhh, I see. I have no idea on their take on the canon characters. I will admit that they have the turians mouths open far wider when they talk than seen in the games.

[Marta Rio]

Hmmm, well, even if her fringe isn't that impressive, her waist does look very supportive. (Dat waist?)

[Vaenier]

Marta Rio wrote...

Hmmm, well, even if her fringe isn't that impressive, her waist does look very supportive. (Dat waist?)

I was wondering, how exactly is a waist unsuportive?

[Victor Ferreira]

I dunno, I'll wait until (or if) I see the models for the game itself. As others have said, DH artists are very inconsistent with the alien look. Or maybe it'll change by the time ME 3 hits the market.



Other than that, I guess it's okay.

[TexasToast712]

Needs boobs.

We can officially say that Male Shep/Female Turian romances are out of the question now.


So gonna get flamed for that. LOL

BRING IT ON!

[Eradyn]

AwesomeName wrote...

I am curious to know who came up with the design - Matt Rhodes? If that's the case I fully support it. Otherwise I've no problem if he changes it a bit.

Matt Rhodes made "Boiled Pig Garrus."  Sadly, even he is not infallible.

I'm still going to be hoping for a refined design by ME3 from BW that isn't...DH.