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[Olauron Mor-Galad]

In the "Dragon Age Copy Protection Announce" it was said that the retail PC version of the game won’t require you to go online to authenticate the game for offline play.

I would like to ask for the clarification of the following rumor. During the discussion of one of the reviews it was stated that after downloading the DLC the author was unable to load his saved game without an internet connection.

So, the question is:
I am downloading the DLC from within the game and authenticating this DLC. I am saving a game after using that downloadable content. Do I need an internet connection to check the authentication of DLC to load that saved game?

I have not found such topic on the last 10 pages, so I hope this topic will be useful.

And I want to apologize for my not so good english.

[Arachija]

One question, How do you download the DLC from within the game? You need an internet connection for the download. You can only get the Dragon Blood Armor using a promo code. (correct me if im wrong)

[pharos_gryphon]

Yeesh, that -would- be a bit of a mess. Mind you I've got the internet readily available often as not, but it's annoying as all get out when games require connecting to it when I'm not even playing online. Heck, half the time that's why I'm playing them, because the internet is acting wonky and felt like replaying something. Ah well, with luck such isn't the case here. I had thought they were doing no more than the standard disc check. *shrugs*

[AlexJK]

Maybe you only need an internet connection the *first* time you load a save after downloading DLC, so the server can confirm it?

[Darke1]

As far as i was aware, you only need the internet connection to download the DLC and get any "in-game" items and perks you are due (from pre-orders, CE, signing up with this soical site, DA:J extras and so on).

From what has been said, once downloaded you dont need to sign back onto the internet again to play the game, which should include saves. If you have to load up the internet every time to save, it would be a little unusual.

Modifié par Darke1, 27 octobre 2009 - 11:53 .

[Mordaedil]

The game will not require you to go online, but I'm pretty sure patches, DLC and such will require you to go online for it.



Once installed, I am not so sure.

I'm still unsure why not every computer terminal in the world is not connected to the Internet yet. It's almost becoming another house-hold requirement, much like television and telephones are now and have been for 20 years.

[Olauron Mor-Galad]

Thank all of you for your responses.



I was able to ask the reviewer and got more specific information.

The game is asking for "log in" operation when loading a save with DLC. But if an internet connection breaks then the game just will warn about it and will let you to play further.

[Psychoray]

Awww man! This is messed up. When EA decides to take down their authentication servers your save games will be invalid! And in any game you'll start from then on you'll have to miss your DLC Items/Quests.



And they WILL take the servers offline, eventually.

[Mavestino]

Yeah, just to followup, its like with the character creator. The main menu has the login screen where after you do so, are given a menu that includes dlc which you dl directly from there.

[kevlarcardhouse]

Psychoray wrote...

Awww man! This is messed up. When EA decides to take down their authentication servers your save games will be invalid! And in any game you'll start from then on you'll have to miss your DLC Items/Quests.

And they WILL take the servers offline, eventually.

I don't think you need to worry.  The developers have said many times that you don't need to be online to use the DLC content.  From the sounds of it, you only run into problems if you're online all the time and then suddenly out of the blue stop being online, which might seem suspicious.  Also, both Neverwinter Nights games eventually just removed all copy protection after a few years so I could see that happening with Dragon Age as well down the line.

Modifié par kevlarcardhouse, 01 novembre 2009 - 12:06 .

[The King of Dust]

This seems really strange, the DLC should be "activated" for your copy of DA at the same time it's being downloaded. This sounds like you'll have to be online to play the game if you use any DLC, wich completely invalidates the "disc-check" only promise.



Obviously, an internet connection is required to acquire the DLC, but it shouldn't be needed once the DLC has been downloaded. If it turns out that I have to log-in everytime I want to play, I'll be seriously pissed. The only type of internet connection available here is dial-up, and I'm sharing it across a network. Obviously, only 1 computer can use the connection at a time, there just isn't enough bandwidth to split it across multiple computers. I definetly won't be able to log-in if any other PC is downloading something, and if that prevents me from playing, I'll probably go on a rampage.

[uglor808]

According to Fernando Melo you don't need to be online to play DLC:

http://www.dragonage.../developer=Melo

Can someone else from Bioware confirm? 

Modifié par uglor808, 01 novembre 2009 - 02:22 .

[Cheiron the Centaur]

The King of Dust wrote...

This seems really strange, the DLC should be "activated" for your copy of DA at the same time it's being downloaded. This sounds like you'll have to be online to play the game if you use any DLC, wich completely invalidates the "disc-check" only promise.

Not quite, the 'disc-check only' promise was specifically made for the retail game as it is included on the disc. Bioware never said that this included the DLC... in fact, they specifically stated that wasn't the case! However:

The King of Dust wrote...
Obviously, an internet connection is required to acquire the DLC, but it shouldn't be needed once the DLC has been downloaded.

That is indeed what Fernando Melo has told us.


[Edit]

uglor808 wrote...
Can someone else from Bioware confirm? 

Fernando Melo is from Bioware... if you don't believe his word, then who from Bioware could confirm this so you do believe it?

Modifié par Cheiron the Centaur, 01 novembre 2009 - 02:24 .

[uglor808]

I know he's from Bioware, that's why i asked if someone ELSE from Bioware can confirm. it's not that i don't believe him, but he could be mistaken or was misinformed.   

Modifié par uglor808, 01 novembre 2009 - 02:31 .

[Fernando Melo]

For DLC, you only need to go online to download it. It becomes activated for that account as part of that process. After that you do not need to be online to play DLC and you certainly never need to go online just to load a save game.



If you are trying to get to a DLC area or loading a saved game that had DLC active at the time, and it is asking you to login (or activate) then my guess is that you logged in with a different account than what you originally grabbed the DLC with, so it is asking for you to confirm that this new account is also an owner of this DLC before proceeding.

[uglor808]

Awesome. Thank you for clearings things up.

Fernando Melo wrote...

For DLC, you only need to go online to download it. It becomes activated for that account as part of that process. After that you do not need to be online to play DLC and you certainly never need to go online just to load a save game.

If you are trying to get to a DLC area or loading a saved game that had DLC active at the time, and it is asking you to login (or activate) then my guess is that you logged in with a different account than what you originally grabbed the DLC with, so it is asking for you to confirm that this new account is also an owner of this DLC before proceeding.

[Olauron Mor-Galad]

Fernando Melo wrote...

For DLC, you only need to go online to download it. It becomes activated for that account as part of that process. After that you do not need to be online to play DLC and you certainly never need to go online just to load a save game.

If you are trying to get to a DLC area or loading a saved game that had DLC active at the time, and it is asking you to login (or activate) then my guess is that you logged in with a different account than what you originally grabbed the DLC with, so it is asking for you to confirm that this new account is also an owner of this DLC before proceeding.

Thank you for this clarification.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Where do we download our DLC from? I've still been unable to find a list or page somewhere to see what DLC or promotional knick-knacks I'm entitled to.

[Fernando Melo]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Where do we download our DLC from? I've still been unable to find a list or page somewhere to see what DLC or promotional knick-knacks I'm entitled to.

You always download the DLC from within the game itself.  Just log in with your account - the one you redeemed the codes with, or purchased DLC with, or uploaded your character creator char with, or played Journeys with (which is likely the account you use here on social, but may not be if you have multiple accts).

There are some walkthrough docs with screenshots that will be posted on the add-ons page (http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/) soon for how to get DLC, and redeem codes on any platform.

And we're still working on showing the list of content you have here on social, although that may be shortly after launch however.

[Joz8]

Fernando Melo wrote...

For DLC, you only need to go online to download it. It becomes activated for that account as part of that process. After that you do not need to be online to play DLC and you certainly never need to go online just to load a save game.

If you are trying to get to a DLC area or loading a saved game that had DLC active at the time, and it is asking you to login (or activate) then my guess is that you logged in with a different account than what you originally grabbed the DLC with, so it is asking for you to confirm that this new account is also an owner of this DLC before proceeding.

So you had to login to load a saved game. Is it possible then for a game to stay logged in(after initial downloading/activation of DLC) even after exiting(or loosing connection) or you should relogin for DLC-dependent save?

Modifié par Joz8, 01 novembre 2009 - 03:08 .

[HeathenKing]

Not a good marketing decision. What about several years from now when people want to go back and play that old classic Dragon age: Origins, but they can't because the authentication server has been down for 6 years?

[hotcoffeeburns]

Alright, so the DLC is linked to the account, not the computer? So I can have it on my desktop and laptop just fine then?

[Varenus Luckmann]

Fernando Melo wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Where do we download our DLC from? I've still been unable to find a list or page somewhere to see what DLC or promotional knick-knacks I'm entitled to.

You always download the DLC from within the game itself.  Just log in with your account - the one you redeemed the codes with, or purchased DLC with, or uploaded your character creator char with, or played Journeys with (which is likely the account you use here on social, but may not be if you have multiple accts).

There are some walkthrough docs with screenshots that will be posted on the add-ons page (http://dragonage.bioware.com/addon/) soon for how to get DLC, and redeem codes on any platform.

And we're still working on showing the list of content you have here on social, although that may be shortly after launch however.

Then how will I download seperate installers for save at a later date, long after the download servers may have gone down? I.e. how do I backup DLC?

[The King of Dust]

Thank you for the clarification Fernando, it's really appreciated.

[Fernando Melo]

Joz8 wrote...
So you had to login to load a saved game. Is it possible then for a game to stay logged in even after exiting(or loosing connection) or you should relogin for DLC-dependent save?

No.  The issue is only in changing the active account/player just before doing that.  As long as you keep playing with the same account (even if you are logged out), it'll work fine and not ask you to login at all.

hotcoffeeburns wrote...
Alright, so the DLC is linked to the account, not the computer? So I can have it on my desktop and laptop just fine then?

Correct.   Having it account based means you can play it anywhere.  And it'll still be there waiting for you if you reinstall the game, or get a new PC down the road.

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Then how will I download seperate installers for save at a later date, long after the download servers may have gone down? I.e. how do I backup DLC?

HeathenKing wrote...
Not a good marketing decision. What about several years from now when people want to go back and play that old classic Dragon age: Origins, but they can't because the authentication server has been down for 6 years?

We have a pretty good track record for supporting our games, and a little time to figure that one out 

I'm not making fun of the issue - it is something we are working to find a solution for.  But the truth is that for now, this works as you would expect with any other game's DLC... as that is the nature of DLC.  It is dependent on a downloadable/online/server being there system. 

I'll confirm, as you may be able to do backups of the files as is, but regardless you would still need to go online to activate it later on or on another PC, so it doesn't completely answer your question.