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[habitat 67]

So, I know a lot of people out there love Nihlus.
I was wondering if there could ever be the slightest chance that Nihlus could come back for ME3, bringing some incredible insight needed to defeat Reapers or something.

Consider-
- Shot in the back medically means nothing these days, and even less in the future.
- We never got a good look at his "dead" body, nor were we medically trained.
- It's Nihlus, and I already feel more than cheated on his early removal from ME1. He was to be my Obi Wan, dammit.

[Arty The Poopie]

I'd be okay with it: flying around the galaxy kicking ass with my Turian squadmates Garrus and Nihilus the fellow Spectre. However, as enticing a thought as that may be it seems pretty implausible from a story-telling point and also throws in a completely out-of-left-field ressurection of a dead, minor character.

[Poaches]

He could return as a vegetable/ament, shot through the head and all.

[Shotokanguy]

Ugh. He's dead. Saren's dead. The Protheans are dead. The Collectors are dead.



I don't think the writing staff for Mass Effect would resort to silly ideas like this. It's not great writing.

[xXSnak3Eat3rXx]

Three words: Lazarus Project v2.0

[Doctah T]

Shotokanguy wrote...

I don't think the writing staff for Mass Effect would resort to silly ideas like this. It's not great writing.

Yeah, killing off a character and then bringing him back would be totally out of their style =P

By the way, awesome name. I'm a Kempo practitioner myself.

[habitat 67]

Shotokanguy wrote...

Ugh. He's dead. Saren's dead. The Protheans are dead. The Collectors are dead.

Too much dead stuff.
It's very sad.


I wouldn't even mind him being "kept alive" in back flashes.

Modifié par habitat 67, 20 janvier 2011 - 04:13 .

[Ulzeraj]

Its an irreversible kind of death called "dramatic death". Dramatic Death doesn't allow the subject to be ressurrected, cured or otherwise unless you have some "it was merely a setback" kind of resources. But don't tell those ME1 zealots. They still think the game is immune to nonsensical facts.

Modifié par Ulzeraj, 20 janvier 2011 - 04:33 .

[habitat 67]

I'm hardly a zealot, if that was a concern.

I just think Nihlus was an incredibly strong character, and should become the Boba Fett of the series, if you will.

[marshalleck]

habitat 67 wrote...

I'm hardly a zealot, if that was a concern.
I just think Nihlus was an incredibly strong character,

You're basing this on all 5 minutes he was in the game? 

The whole reason Nihlus existed was to show how cold and ruthless Saren was. Nihlus served his purpose and is dead, for good. 

[Kusy]

Nihilus? Who's Nihilus. He wasn't mentioned in the Genesis comics. I don't know anyone named Nihilus... and he never got shot by Saren.

[adam_grif]

Nihilus is deader than Elvis, OP. Just move on.

[Mudzr]

Well he actually does appear, or a turian that looks exactly like him.

In Samara's recruitment mission you are taken to an exclusive part of illium for that mission. You are given a chance to explore a little bit before you talk to some NPC's and start the mission. Go to where you talk to the police officer in the room where the asari police officer is there is a Nihlius look alike sitting next to another turian, or something like that.



So yeah it's just a turian from the same colony, but you can pretend it's Nihlius

[Felfenix]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Nihilus? Who's Nihilus. He wasn't mentioned in the Genesis comics. I don't know anyone named Nihilus... and he never got shot by Saren.

lol... I guess he's not in the "definitive" version of the game?

[SSV Enterprise]

Um yeah he's dead.



A. Saren shot him. I'm sure that Saren knows how to make sure that some one is dead.

B. As Alliance marines, I'm pretty sure that Shepard, Kaidan, and Ashley know how to confirm that someone's dead.

C. The Council isn't in the business of resurrecting people. The Lazarus project was performed from square one by Cerberus and hadn't been done before. Could the Council do the same thing? Yeah, I guess...but I think they would rather spend billions of credits on training dozens of new spectres rather than resurrecting a single one.

[Ulzeraj]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Nihilus? Who's Nihilus. He wasn't mentioned in the Genesis comics. I don't know anyone named Nihilus... and he never got shot by Saren.

[Alexander Kogan]

Nihlus is DEAD and Saren DISINTEGRATED. They can't come back to life from the damage they took, it's impossible.



Not to get off topic but speaking of bringing people back from the dead, I'm lost as to why Shepard was killed off and brought back to life. It would have made more sense if he was seriously injured to the point of some change to his appearance and drifted into a coma and either the Alliance, Council or Cerberus would have had the means for healing him and getting him out of it. Anyone care to elaborate?

[Stupidus]

He's dead. DEAD. Just like Ashley is DEAD (who honestly saves her).

[marshalleck]

Felfenix wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Nihilus? Who's Nihilus. He wasn't mentioned in the Genesis comics. I don't know anyone named Nihilus... and he never got shot by Saren.

lol... I guess he's not in the "definitive" version of the game?

I don't believe any claims were made to the effect of the comic being the "definitive" version of the first game. Now I'm all for poking holes in silly marketing hype, but let's keep it grounded in what was actually said.

[habitat 67]

marshalleck wrote...
You're basing this on all 5 minutes he was in the game? 

The whole reason Nihlus existed was to show how cold and ruthless Saren was. Nihlus served his purpose and is dead, for good. 

...Boba....Fett..... (geez for those who don't know got one line, fell in the Sarlacc pit but "jetpacked" out due to popularity.)

And yes, sometimes characters are unpredictably wonderful and they become greater characters at a later date. Nihlus would be one of these characters.

[Lady Kaguya]

Flashback? Why not? But not to come back alive...would sorta kill the point; and that's hard to say since I am a big Nihlus fan.

[Felfenix]

Alexander Kogan wrote...

Nihlus is DEAD and Saren DISINTEGRATED. They can't come back to life from the damage they took, it's impossible.

Not to get off topic but speaking of bringing people back from the dead, I'm lost as to why Shepard was killed off and brought back to life. It would have made more sense if he was seriously injured to the point of some change to his appearance and drifted into a coma and either the Alliance, Council or Cerberus would have had the means for healing him and getting him out of it. Anyone care to elaborate?

Cause they wanted to do all those "Is Shepard dead!? What will happen!?" promos that were pretty pointless and nobody bought into. We all know we're gonna be playing Shepard. Who popped in ME2, and after the prologue was like "OMG, Shepard is dead? Who will I play as now? OMG! Shepard survived! I'm so surprised!"

[Schneidend]

Saren shot the man in the back of the brainpan. He's dead.

Felfenix wrote...
Cause they wanted to do all those "Is
Shepard dead!? What will happen!?" promos that were pretty pointless and
nobody bought into. We all know we're gonna be playing Shepard. Who
popped in ME2, and after the prologue was like "OMG, Shepard is
dead? Who will I play as now? OMG! Shepard survived! I'm so surprised!"

By "nobody bought into" do you mean "half the forums freaked out about it"?

Modifié par Schneidend, 20 janvier 2011 - 05:16 .

[marshalleck]

habitat 67 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
You're basing this on all 5 minutes he was in the game? 

The whole reason Nihlus existed was to show how cold and ruthless Saren was. Nihlus served his purpose and is dead, for good. 

...Boba....Fett..... (geez for those who don't know got one line, fell in the Sarlacc pit but "jetpacked" out due to popularity.)

And yes, sometimes characters are unpredictably wonderful and they become greater characters at a later date. Nihlus would be one of these characters.

I know who Boba Fett is, and flying out of the sarlacc pit is the most stupid idea ever. Well, not as bad as killing Shepard and resurrecting him 5 minutes later to render the death meaningless and inconsequential, but still pretty close. 

[CBUSEN]

woohooo! yep. there is a LOT of dying. Good stories have main charcaters die, ones you like, otherwise you're not as interested iin who lives or dies....will joker? who's gonna be his chick? will sam stalk him after their nasty divorce? who's the REAL father of Garrus...hehhee...its not entirely too far from General Hospital