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[robtheguru]

Everyone has likely heard of Gametrailers.com and will have their own opinions on them, but they have recently done a GT Pop Block video which is when they scour trailers for hidden snippets of information. While the trailer doesn't reveal any major secrets that people didn't already notice, they did mention that Europe appeared to be the sole point of attack from the Reapers. So it lead me to think of all the places on the Earth to attack, why focus on Europe?

Based on present day, the common sense thing for any invaders would be to take out the US, Russia and China first. So for the Reapers to seemingly assault Europe first, things must dramatically change from now until Mass Effect. The fact that in Kasumi's DLC it is revealed Donovan Hock has the Statue of Liberty's head, it makes me think the US must have been subject to some sort of attack or war that resulted in the beloved statue losing its head.

There is always the chance that Europe becomes truely unified under one banner which would immediately propel it to the forefront of military might within the world. Obviously this is all just fiction and assumptions but I thought it would be interesting to discuss what could have happened to make the Reapers attack Europe first.

Other options could be that Europe may be the home of the Alliance military, much like it is the UN.

Personally, I just think the Reapers are that scared of the SAS


So does anyone else have any conspiracy theories as to why the Reapers have chosen Europe or am I just reading too much into it? 

[Saren100]

Well according to Drew karpyshyn North America in mass effect 2 is pretty much a 3rd world country.



Europe is the new shining beacon for the nations of earth.



Maybe thats why the reapers attacked there.



New delhi is also supposed to be super rich in the me timeline much like dubai is in our timeline

[Diokletian600]

Out of interest, where was it said that North America is a third world nation?



The codex only says that the US, Canada and Mexico unified and that there was a second civil war against secessionists trying to prevent that.

[Saren100]

Diokletian600 wrote...

Out of interest, where was it said that North America is a third world nation?

The codex only says that the US, Canada and Mexico unified and that there was a second civil war against secessionists trying to prevent that.

He wrote 3 books read them

Its all in there

its 7 am so forgive me if im not going to go get my books and scan every page to prove that he said it.

Modifié par Saren100, 20 janvier 2011 - 12:01 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Perhaps they're culling the Earth systematically. I can't imagine they need the entire fleet when a handful of Reapers can float around virtually uncontested. The rest of the Reapers are probably also engaged elsewhere.

Should also note that the majority of the defense would have been made at Arcturus Station. The defense around Earth itself would probably be insignificant in comparison, not warranting many Reapers at Earth. Especially if they "beat" the Systems Alliance Navy prior to arriving there.

And then they chose to show London/Europe.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 20 janvier 2011 - 12:07 .

[wolfsite]

They could have just picked London for the trailer since that city has the most wordly recognizable landmarks than any other city in on the planet.  Plus Big Ben would make a much better sniping spot then the Washington monument on Lady Liberty.

[samurai crusade]

The trailer showed Europe being attacked.. yes. But there was pleanty of land-mass that was out of Shepards view... Africa, North America, South America, Australia. He said it's a well coordinated attack and reports are coming in from other major cities. Saren100 is right, Karpyshyn did list North America as a third world country. And it makes sense to go after strategic places first. Space-ports, Military Instalations, etc. If the Reapers took out 9 million people in London in a week. Then that city is pretty much done and those were some of the few survivors left in London.

I disagree with wolfsite though. I think London was chosen because of the landmarks proximity to one another and the ability to show scale, and hint at isolation... London is on an island... those guys have no chance except for Shepard.

[OmegaXI]

Hmm I must have missed that about North America being a 3rd world country in the books I thought it was just said that slums of houston, texas were really large. Other than that it was just implied that while cities where really advance most rural places the world over were not past the 20th century in technological levels. But then again I may have read it wrong or missed something.

Modifié par OmegaXI, 20 janvier 2011 - 09:25 .

[The Unfallen]

Europe is already united under one government. Ever heard of the European Union? They are actually trying to form a North American Union and an Asian Union. I imagine the Earth of the future is ruled by a single totalitarian world government in the distant future.

[Redem0]

robtheguru wrote...


Based on present day, the common sense thing for any invaders would be to take out the US, Russia and China first. So for the Reapers to seemingly assault Europe first, things must dramatically change from now until Mass Effect. The fact that in Kasumi's DLC it is revealed Donovan Hock has the Statue of Liberty's head, it makes me think the US must have been subject to some sort of attack or war that resulted in the beloved statue losing its head.

I think its quite oblivious that vicious Canadian terrorists decapited  the statue  of liberty:happy:

[Val Seleznyov]

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Europe is already united under one government. Ever heard of the European Union?

You're an idiot.

There are 27 countries currently in the EU. There are 47 countries in Europe.

Even the countries that are in the Union are not ruled under one government. Do you know anything about the EU?

Modifié par Val Seleznyov, 21 janvier 2011 - 12:00 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

The North American Union a third world nation? What the hell? Maybe the area around Detroit and a few other cities but the rest is BS.



I blame Canada for ruining the North American Union.

[Spartas Husky]

Val Seleznyov wrote...

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Europe is already united under one government. Ever heard of the European Union?

yeah is just as broken as the American "union of states". Although with no central financial backbone, little military cohesion and lack of will. Is the last of the 4 to rise to the occassion given the opportunity.

I doubt the political landscape in 100 years will hold the US, Russia, China or Europe on the top.

[The Unfallen]

ReconTeam wrote...

The North American Union a third world nation? What the hell? Maybe the area around Detroit and a few other cities but the rest is BS.

I blame Canada for ruining the North American Union.

You don't want a North American Union, unless you actually want to lose your freedoms, and your country's sovereignty to a higher power that supersedes your constitution. =P

These are bad people. You do not like them. They are the enemy.

You're an idiot. 

There are 27 countries currently in the EU. There are 47 countries in Europe. 

Even the countries that are in the Union are not ruled under one government. Do you know anything about the EU?

No need to be so rude.

Technically, yes, the Bilderberg group is a collection of the 130 most powerful people of all nations of the world. They administer the EU with a steering group, and are currently overseeing the construction of an international highway that spreads across the United States, running into Canada, and then Mexico at the other end. 

I think a STFU please is in order.

[Val Seleznyov]

There is even less need to spread brainless misinformation about Europe.I'm getting rather tired of ignorant North Americans on video game forums.

[Zavox]

Val Seleznyov wrote...

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Europe is already united under one government. Ever heard of the European Union?

You're an idiot.

There are 27 countries currently in the EU. There are 47 countries in Europe.

Even the countries that are in the Union are not ruled under one government. Do you know anything about the EU?

If you're going to be rude about it, please have the facts right aswell...

There's 50 countries in Europe (partly in some cases, such as your country Russia), and of those 50, 44 have their capitals in Europe. Your number is the number of countries in the Council of Europe.

Not to mention that the countries in the Union are in fact governed by a parliament and commission. They've imposed rules that every EU country has to abide by. Thus they are the highest governing body for any EU state.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

This thread has gone waaaaaaaaaay off topic.

[Saren100]

ReconTeam wrote...

The North American Union a third world nation? What the hell? Maybe the area around Detroit and a few other cities but the rest is BS.

I blame Canada for ruining the North American Union.

If anyone ruins anything in the NAU it would be Mexico.

the second any kind of NAU was set up millions of mexican people would move north overpopulating the already to large american cities and causing a large crisis job wise.

Meanwhile Canada and the USA economies are already closesly intertwined.

Which is actually terrible for canada because when the usa gets screwed we will go down with them. Its actually a pretty bad situation our econamy is actually made weaker by having a dollar which occasionaly becomes more valuable then the USA dollar.

Also to what the above poster said about what drew said in the book.

From what I remember the way he wrote it was along the lines of

"The texan megopolis like the rest of north america was a slum" dont quote me word for word but it was along those lines.

Also we have no actual information on Europe in mass effect timeline. The way the world is going at the moment seems like Russia is going back towards a system that competes on every level with the EU.

Ukraine has sided with russia over Nato and the EU, im not exactly sure about the other CIS nations but Ukraine is the important one anyways. Gas flows through Ukraine and Ukraine houses the Black sea fleet.

Also unlike poland it didnt sell out to the west.

Anyways obviously Mass Effect is sci fi but we have no idea what splits like this will do the europe in the mass effect timeline.

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[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Saren100 wrote...

Well according to Drew karpyshyn North America in mass effect 2 is pretty much a 3rd world country.

Europe is the new shining beacon for the nations of earth.

Maybe thats why the reapers attacked there.

New delhi is also supposed to be super rich in the me timeline much like dubai is in our timeline

There is no mention of either. You are only assuming, and we all know what happens when we assume. All we know is that Houston Austin San Antonio and Houston have become a megapolis and it is one of the poorer areas, that Captain Anderson was born in London and New Calcutta is one of nicer places to live.

Modifié par Harbinger of your Destiny, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:29 .

[James2912]

The EU is not a federal government it is a rather weak Confederation of states. The various countries of Europe run most of their own affairs. The EU has a lot less power over its member states than the United States federal government has over its states.
Anyways I bet the Reapers are attacking all the major cities of Earth and were just seeing London because its a tad bit less cliche then New York and is as recognizable.

And OP the UN is all over the world but the Headquarters is in New York City not Europe.

Modifié par James2912, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:28 .

[Val Seleznyov]

Zavox wrote...

Val Seleznyov wrote...

That Yellow Bastard wrote...

Europe is already united under one government. Ever heard of the European Union?

You're an idiot.

There are 27 countries currently in the EU. There are 47 countries in Europe.

Even the countries that are in the Union are not ruled under one government. Do you know anything about the EU?

If you're going to be rude about it, please have the facts right aswell...

There's 50 countries in Europe (partly in some cases, such as your country Russia), and of those 50, 44 have their capitals in Europe. Your number is the number of countries in the Council of Europe.

Not to mention that the countries in the Union are in fact governed by a parliament and commission. They've imposed rules that every EU country has to abide by. Thus they are the highest governing body for any EU state.

It's a shame that your knowledge on my country doesn't extend much further than its geographic location.

The list of countries that we recognise in Europe isn't in line with that of most of the Western World. Kosovo isn't recognised, for instance. So it's simpler for me to use the numbers from the Council of Europe, as they're not really up for dispute.

The types of things that the EU passes are virtually all trade related. To suggest that it governs its member states in a more meaningful way than their respective governments do is giving the EU too much credit.

Modifié par Val Seleznyov, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:35 .

[adam_grif]

Out of interest, where was it said that North America is a third world nation?

It already is.



*Rimshot*

[Saren100]

adam_grif wrote...

Out of interest, where was it said that North America is a third world nation?

It already is.

*Rimshot*

Drive through michigan and it seems like one

[Inquisitor Recon]

Detroit doesn't count guys.