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[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
Since you know everything, you must also know the context in which the qunari appear in DA2 and why their appearance is not so unbelieveable. Well done. You earn a gold star.

So it will make sense as to why the Qunari in DA2 are all shirtless and dressed in Braveheart paint versus the whole glittering armor and cannons deal they were portrayed as in Origins?

[stephen1493]

drahelvete wrote...

The Codex only mentions qunari wearing glittering steel armor ONCE. During a certain historical battle. That doesn't mean that they normally wear steel armor. The same Codex entry calls the qunari "gold-skinned", so it's obviously dated anyway.
If I remember correctly, that particular Codex entry wasn't even available in-game. It's from the Tome of Knowledge on the old DA webpage.

I don't know why everyone takes codex entries to heart. It seems like most of the descriptions in the codex were exaggerations of grandeur over everything, such as would writers would write in the middle ages.

[David Gaider]

Brockololly wrote...
So it will make sense as to why the Qunari in DA2 are all shirtless and dressed in Braveheart paint versus the whole glittering armor and cannons deal they were portrayed as in Origins?

I guess you'll have to wait and see, won't you?

[stephen1493]

David Gaider wrote...

stephen1493 wrote...
Oh, you mean that race from Par Vollen who see it as a mission to subvert all cultures through war in order to follow their religion?

Maker only knows what those qunari soldiers we saw in those releases will be up too.

Probaly relief work. Those caring souls.

Since you know everything, you must also know the context in which the qunari appear in DA2 and why their appearance is not so unbelieveable. Well done. You earn a gold star.

I just don't see it as a big mystery. I don't know anything about why Hawke is in the Deep Roads, Why their seems to be a mage/templar war brewing, or How Flemeth is going to have an influence here. I'm literally shaking to find out and am counting out the days to release.

I consider those as mysteries that make me reflect and speculate over and over again with fellow fans. But the question, "what would a qunari battlion fighting in another country be doing" never seemed to require much depth to it, especially after all those reminders from Sten that they would invade one day.

I didn't mean to seem like a know it all.

...Well maybe a lil bit.

Modifié par stephen1493, 25 janvier 2011 - 04:21 .

[upsettingshorts]

Im curious stephen, did you miss the part of David Gaider's signature that says what his job at Bioware is?

[Maria Caliban]

Maybe they're there to ally with the Free Marches and gain a foothold in the area?

[silentassassin264]

David Gaider wrote...

Brockololly wrote...
So it will make sense as to why the Qunari in DA2 are all shirtless and dressed in Braveheart paint versus the whole glittering armor and cannons deal they were portrayed as in Origins?

I guess you'll have to wait and see, won't you?

I would play it if you let me.  Let me take Woo's place in QA.  I'd do it for free.

[Leonia]

*has no idea what the plot for DA2 is and wonders how other posters know so much about it*

[stephen1493]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Im curious stephen, did you miss the part of David Gaider's signature that says what his job at Bioware is?

I know who he is. I practically hang off his forum posts. I just don't see why I had to assume that their was a huge mystery over what Qunari soldiers were doing in other lands.

Modifié par stephen1493, 25 janvier 2011 - 04:30 .

[Maria Caliban]

filaminstrel wrote...

I'm guessing they're tal vashoth separatists following a rogue Arishok.

Tal'Vashoth = Hornless.

[KnightofPhoenix]

If it's simply a military campaign involving more than the Free Marches, I think what the Qunari are trying to do is this



Because from a strictly military point of view, I don't see why they would attack the Free Marches, except if it was part of a larger campaign.

Not only do they encircle the Tevinter Imperium, but they essentially gain control of the mouth of the Waking sea, effectively completing their blockade over Antiva, Free Marches and Tevinter, and preventing the Orlesian and Nevarran armada from joining the fray.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 25 janvier 2011 - 04:36 .

[stephen1493]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Celtic warriors used to fight nude just to strike fear in their enemies. Just sayin'.

Did it work well for them?

Well I'd run the other way...

[Mike Laidlaw]

Brockololly wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
Since you know everything, you must also know the context in which the qunari appear in DA2 and why their appearance is not so unbelieveable. Well done. You earn a gold star.

So it will make sense as to why the Qunari in DA2 are all shirtless and dressed in Braveheart paint versus the whole glittering armor and cannons deal they were portrayed as in Origins?

To my recollection, they didn't appear in glittering armor or have cannons in Origins, either. There were about 8 of them and they wore armor very much like everyone else, and were decidedly cannon free.

And if you haven't learned not to entirely trust our codex entries, yet, especially the ones about historical events, the world of Dragon Age will continue to astonish at every turn.

I cannot stress this enough, folks: when the first words of the first game in a series are "The Chantry teaches us..." you should be prepared to take just about everything with a grain of salt. Even the guys who write the Pen and Paper sourcebooks don't know everything that's going on in the world of Thedas, especially in it's largely forgotten past.

Some mysteries are best kept to a very small group.

[Maria Caliban]

I don't think David would call the qunari attacking 'unbelievable.'

[stephen1493]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't think David would call the qunari attacking 'unbelievable.'

I just don't put stock in their actions and motives as going to be as shocking as the Revan reveal.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't think David would call the qunari attacking 'unbelievable.'

It isn't unbelievable. But if they have no valid reason for it, not only does it remove the tension, but it makes the Qunari look bad, essentially like darkspawn v2.

Of course I am not saying this is what the story is like, I don't know yet.
But from a strictly military point of view (and I am no expert), I don't understand why they would attack the Free Marches on its own. Unless it's part of a big military campaign or strategy (something Sten alluded to), or it involves something else.


@ Mike Laidlaw.
Are cannons Chantry lies too?
...Why would they lie about that?

Wouldn't gunboat dipmacy be what the Qunari would do? In an amphibious invasion? 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 25 janvier 2011 - 04:45 .

[Mike Laidlaw]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

@ Mike Laidlaw.
Are cannons Chantry lies too?
...Why would they lie about that?

Wouldn't gunboat dipmacy be what the Qunari would do? In an amphibious invasion? 

See, now you're thinking like a Dragon Age fan! Would the chantry lie about something like that? Would they find political gain in representing the Qunari as an unbeatable threat? Or are they telling the truth? WHO CAN SAY*?

Tinfoil hats, everyone!


*(Answer: David Gaider, but he's not talking.)

[chunkyman]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

If it's simply a military campaign involving more than the Free Marches, I think what the Qunari are trying to do is this



Because from a strictly military point of view, I don't see why they would attack the Free Marches, except if it was part of a larger campaign.

Not only do they encircle the Tevinter Imperium, but they essentially gain control of the mouth of the Waking sea, effectively completing their blockade over Antiva, Free Marches and Tevinter, and preventing the Orlesian and Nevarran armada from joining the fray.

If the Qunari were smart they would sail so far east that it became west and plow straight through the Anderfels right into Tevinter. They would never see it coming.

[Maria Caliban]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

See, now you're thinking like a Dragon Age fan! Would the chantry lie about something like that? Would they find political gain in representing the Qunari as an unbeatable threat? Or are they telling the truth? WHO CAN SAY*?

Tinfoil hats, everyone!


*(Answer: David Gaider, but he's not talking.)

David has talked about the cannons the qunari use when some people were worried that it meant guns were in the setting.

[chunkyman]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

@ Mike Laidlaw.
Are cannons Chantry lies too?
...Why would they lie about that?

Wouldn't gunboat dipmacy be what the Qunari would do? In an amphibious invasion? 

See, now you're thinking like a Dragon Age fan! Would the chantry lie about something like that? Would they find political gain in representing the Qunari as an unbeatable threat? Or are they telling the truth? WHO CAN SAY*?

Tinfoil hats, everyone!


*(Answer: David Gaider, but he's not talking.)

Tinfoil hats confirmed! 

And if anyone tells me otherwise I'll cancel my pre-order! Or hold my breath...

[stephen1493]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't think David would call the qunari attacking 'unbelievable.'

It isn't unbelievable. But if they have no valid reason for it, not only does it remove the tension, but it makes the Qunari look bad, essentially like darkspawn v2.

Of course I am not saying this is what the story is like, I don't know yet.
But from a strictly military point of view (and I am no expert), I don't understand why they would attack the Free Marches on its own. Unless it's part of a big military campaign or strategy (something Sten alluded to), or it involves something else.


@ Mike Laidlaw.
Are cannons Chantry lies too?
...Why would they lie about that?

Wouldn't gunboat dipmacy be what the Qunari would do? In an amphibious invasion? 

The way I see it, and I'll put out that this is speculation for fear of being lashed out at, Their horns play a big part of that reveal.

Through the "Destiny" trailor we see that the Qunari mean to kill the ruler. I know that the trailor isn't an entirely accurate portrayal of what will happen, but I doubt that Bioware would allow a trailor to be put out that was entirely missleading towards the plot.

The horns should imply that they are following in the intrest of the entire qunari people by doing this. Thus, it can be assumed that this is a military action on a foreign country, seeing as all warrior Qunari are soldiers. There are many different reasons why this step was taken, they could have been provoked, or that this action could put pressure on the Tevinter Imperioum as that above map pointed out.

Either way this all seems to add to the already mostly assumed theory of everyone who believes that this is just the Qunari taking another step of spreading the Qun around the world.

In intrest of staying on topic to the OP, It shouldn't be that strange for an army to gear up in accordance and respect to the battlefield.

Modifié par stephen1493, 25 janvier 2011 - 05:05 .

[Joy Divison]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Even the guys who write the Pen and Paper sourcebooks don't know everything that's going on in the world of Thedas, especially in it's largely forgotten past.

HEY!  We historians are always objective, truthful, and knowlegeable in such things :innocent: