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[jackkel dragon]

I think they (BioWare) mean that the artstyle looks better to them. If DA3 is ever made, the graphics may actually be improved in the way players expect.



My logic? Well, it seems some assets (like weapons) got tranferred over directly without much improvement, but that's to keep the level of detail/texture resolution the same as the huge amount of new assets. (At least that's what I would do.) There isn't always time to completely revise your graphics style *and* upgrade, it's usually one or the other. Just hope that any DA game that may appear after DA2 keeps the style, that way graphics can be improved.

[Meltemph]

Ninotchka wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

The pics we have been fed over the months have been so inconsistent to me, that I'm not really sure how anyone can claim they know what it is going to look like come launch or if one is more legit then the other.

This is true. But it's still a worry to see some screenshots looking so grainy/crappy in such a recent preview article.

It's hard for me to take screenshots so seriously(at least the PC version) when those shots are scalable, according to the PC you have.  The only thing these screenshots make me feel is indifferent to the screenshots.  

[Dave of Canada]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Look at the environments tho Dave, low res central

I'll give you the floor in the third screenshot looking rather bad, though I don't see the rest.

[Nimpe]

DarthCaine wrote...

jackkel dragon wrote...

Are the graphics really that bad? My eyes must suck.

I don't really give a damn about graphics, but they keep japing about how graphics are better and they've probably spent a lot of time and budget on that unnecessarily since IMO the graphics in the Sebastian trailer look like absolute crap, far worse than DAO and incredibly low resolution

Crap? How? Sure, they might be worse than dao, if you look at it that way, but they aren't BAD. The faces look smoother, less realistic, but does it really matter? It's not like the people are all blocky...

[Jaduggar]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Look at the environments tho Dave, low res central

Settings that argument aside, look at the textures of the characters in comparison to those newly released screenshot.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

jackkel dragon wrote...

I think they (BioWare) mean that the artstyle looks better to them. If DA3 is ever made, the graphics may actually be improved in the way players expect.

My logic? Well, it seems some assets (like weapons) got tranferred over directly without much improvement, but that's to keep the level of detail/texture resolution the same as the huge amount of new assets. (At least that's what I would do.) There isn't always time to completely revise your graphics style *and* upgrade, it's usually one or the other. Just hope that any DA game that may appear after DA2 keeps the style, that way graphics can be improved.

Especially when you rush the game out in 18 months. And strip out half the RPG in it.

[Jaduggar]

EDIT:

Strange double-y post.

Modifié par Jaduggar, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:12 .

[jackkel dragon]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Especially when you rush the game out in 18 months. And strip out half the RPG in it.

The only effect the artists have on the game designers is how the game play looks.

[Saibh]

Did we all just...forget the praise we were showering upon the devs just a few days ago?

And, honestly, when did graphics become the most important part of BioWare games? If forever and always, graphics stayed the same level that DAII is now, I wouldn't care. They're good enough.

Modifié par Saibh, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:13 .

[Ninotchka]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Ninotchka wrote...

That's debatable. Today's newly released screenshots from the German gaming website look rather poor (to some of us).

And I've said, they look low resolution (especially Bianca, Varric's crossbow).

However compare them to these shots and there's a major difference.

Snipped pics for brevity

I have to agree, the screenies you posted do look good, but many others don't. The inconsistencies have been puzzling. The ones that don't look good are, hopefully, those taken off a console game. I wish they would state this clearly for us to be able to understand the differences in quality.

I know graphic quality is not a game breaker, but it adds a lot for some of us detail fiends.

[Dave of Canada]

Saibh wrote...

Did we all just...forget the praise we were showering upon the devs just a few days ago?

And, honestly, when did graphics become the most important part of BioWare games? If forever and always, graphics stayed the same level that DAII is now, I wouldn't care. They're good enough.

The floor there looks awesome, though that might just me,

[jackkel dragon]

@Saibh: Short term memory and different people. For the record, I'm loving the graphics style and detail I've seen from DA2 so far. This may stem from playing NWN until a year ago.

[marquiseondore]

So that's what it would look like if Nosforatu and the Grand High Inquisitor had a baby.

[Meltemph]

Did we all just...forget the praise we were showering upon the devs just a few days ago?

Do you really expect anything else? This is one of the more over-emotional/bipolar forums, I've been on.

[Harid]

When they state how great the graphics are, and the 'gaming journalists' parrot back the same nonsense, you better have some Uncharted level graphics, or you better learn some humility and shut your damn mouth, I would assume is why people complain about the graphics.

(They are still hyping the graphics)

And I have yet to see PS3 pics, so I never showered them with praise.  I couldn't care less what the game looks like on an Xbox.

Modifié par Harid, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:16 .

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

And gods Saibh, I realize thats the console version but the GUI is the ugliest thing I think I've ever seen.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Harid wrote...

When they state how great the graphics are, and the 'gaming journalists' parrot back the same nonsense, you better have some Uncharted level graphics, or you better learn some humility and shut your damn mouth, I would assume is why people complain about the graphics.

(They are still hyping the graphics)

^^^ This!

[DarthCaine]

Saibh wrote...

Did we all just...forget the praise we were showering upon the devs just a few days ago?

It's called hype

And, honestly, when did graphics become the most important part of BioWare games?

The point isn't comparing DA2 graphics with other next gen games. For all I care they could've made DAO with KOTOR's graphics. This is about DAO's vs DA2's graphics.

DarthCaine wrote...

I don't really give a damn about graphics, but they keep japing about how graphics are better and they've probably spent a lot of time and budget on that unnecessarily since IMO the graphics in the Sebastian trailer look like absolute crap, far worse than DAO and incredibly low resolution

Modifié par DarthCaine, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:16 .

[Jaduggar]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

And gods Saibh, I realize thats the console version but the GUI is the ugliest thing I think I've ever seen.

...Setting the UI argument aside, you do agree those environments look nice?

[Guitar-Hero]

Nimpe wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Steffen wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

And? Origin's looked no better at launch than a few months before release.

Origins, graphically, was completed long before the game was released. Dragon Age 2 was revamped, screenshots from months ago look horrible compared to the screenshots of today.

You can't compare them both.

Still you have to admid given the bar they raised with ME, people are gonna have really high expectations, sometimes ureasonably high

Eh mine weren't, I expected it to be on par with DA:O. Sadly it looks fricken worse.

Then don't buy it. There, end of the conflict.
Can you all take the fight somewhere else? 

Idont think anyone is fighting only expressing a difference of opinion, some are more visceral then others, I think it looks better but thats subjective i guess, what really frustrate me is that a lot of the critisism is without reference as to what it is you dont like, things like, it looks silly or ugly or it looks worse, cant really be helpfull to developers, there are some people who are gonna hate everything they put out, just as there are people who are gonna love it, those people are in my opinion irrelevant to a discussion about a thing we all love.

[slimgrin]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

And gods Saibh, I realize thats the console version but the GUI is the ugliest thing I think I've ever seen.

I really hope we get a toolset for pc, cause I want some gracious modder to give us back our circular portraits.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

Jaduggar wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

And gods Saibh, I realize thats the console version but the GUI is the ugliest thing I think I've ever seen.

...Setting the UI argument aside, you do agree those environments look nice?

Eh still look low res to me. But maybe thats just the art style itself not agreeing with me. I don't know.

[Jaduggar]

DarthCaine wrote...

It's called hype

I don't understand, a little more depth if you would:
Why did that same hype cause blatant hate to fill this thread?

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Eh still look low res to me. But maybe thats just the art style itself not agreeing with me. I don't know.

That's fair.
I actually quite enjoy the look.

Modifié par Jaduggar, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:19 .

[Dave of Canada]

Harid wrote...

When they state how great the graphics are, and the 'gaming journalists' parrot back the same nonsense, you better have some Uncharted level graphics, or you better learn some humility and shut your damn mouth, I would assume is why people complain about the graphics.

I see them hyping the graphics in comparison to Origins. Not that the graphics are the best thing ever, where they've admit it isn't their strong point.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 22 janvier 2011 - 01:19 .

[Guitar-Hero]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Did we all just...forget the praise we were showering upon the devs just a few days ago?

And, honestly, when did graphics become the most important part of BioWare games? If forever and always, graphics stayed the same level that DAII is now, I wouldn't care. They're good enough.

The floor there looks awesome, though that might just me,

Looks great, but bioware games have never been about graphics, if it hits the same level as ME 2, ill be happy