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[Loerwyn]

Oh, my mind was open with regards to BioWare changing my opinion, and I'll admit once or twice they've made me consider buying it, but on the whole?

No, I won't buy it.

[Fraevar]

Seagloom wrote...

Moving on... my opinion of these screens is indifference. The first two are not too hot. It is immaterial however, since graphics are low on the totem pole of what I look for in a story driven game. Compared to my other potential issues with DA2, this registers as a blip on the radar. It is certainly nothing to make me reconsider my preorder. What does make me curious is why the recommended requirements are noticeably higher for this game when the graphics in these screenshots suggest otherwise.

I remember thinking the same when Neverwinter Nights 2 came out. In that case it was poor optimization, and just judging by these screens, I'd say this is a clear example of DA2 suffering from 'console-itis' in that department.

[Guitar-Hero]

elirian_19 wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...
I love how you state your opinion as if it's fact. 

All games are overrated to someone.

That we can agree on.

Progress! We've made it.

If only it were so

[Guitar-Hero]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, my mind was open with regards to BioWare changing my opinion, and I'll admit once or twice they've made me consider buying it, but on the whole?
No, I won't buy it.

This is what i don't understand, if you don't support bioware why are you here?
you have a right to express your oppinion but what good does it do?

[elirian_19]

tmp7704 wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

Exactly my point.

If this were a topic dedicated to the "horrendous quality of DA2's graphics" then I'd agree that those of us who are okay with them should move on to something else, but it isn't, and thus we have every right to be here and disagree with those who seem inclined to turn every thread where a new screenshot is revealed into a b****fest.

I suppose we're just going to see it differently. To me, discussing whether graphics as portrayed on the screenshots in question are good or bad remains within topic. Going onto abstract "just how much graphics matter, exactly" tangent, or how the quality of graphics isn't related to quality of rest of the game ... these feel quite pointless in the given context, because --in this particular spot-- no one is complaining about these other factors, and obviously for people who take time to discuss the graphics they do matter, enough to talk about them.

Sorry, I should have made myself a little clearer. I agree that discussing the graphics, good or bad, are part of the topic because in the end this thread is about the nothing and everything that we can find in these two screenshots. What I don't agree with is that those defending the graphics should just move on because they happen to disagree with or dislike the opinions of those who don't. And like I tried to say earlier: the only time they should have to move on is if this were a topic dedicated to voicing an opinion about how horrible the graphics are.

I hope I made my original point a little clearer.

Modifié par elirian_19, 22 janvier 2011 - 06:21 .

[Guitar-Hero]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

Moving on... my opinion of these screens is indifference. The first two are not too hot. It is immaterial however, since graphics are low on the totem pole of what I look for in a story driven game. Compared to my other potential issues with DA2, this registers as a blip on the radar. It is certainly nothing to make me reconsider my preorder. What does make me curious is why the recommended requirements are noticeably higher for this game when the graphics in these screenshots suggest otherwise.

I remember thinking the same when Neverwinter Nights 2 came out. In that case it was poor optimization, and just judging by these screens, I'd say this is a clear example of DA2 suffering from 'console-itis' in that department.

Awww.. Poor pc player

[elirian_19]

Steffen wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

elirian_19 wrote...
I love how you state your opinion as if it's fact. 

All games are overrated to someone.

That we can agree on.

Progress! We've made it.

If only it were so

Don't burst my delusional little bubble! It's very sensitive to the realities of others.

[Beaner28]

Steffen wrote...

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

Moving on... my opinion of these screens is indifference. The first two are not too hot. It is immaterial however, since graphics are low on the totem pole of what I look for in a story driven game. Compared to my other potential issues with DA2, this registers as a blip on the radar. It is certainly nothing to make me reconsider my preorder. What does make me curious is why the recommended requirements are noticeably higher for this game when the graphics in these screenshots suggest otherwise.

I remember thinking the same when Neverwinter Nights 2 came out. In that case it was poor optimization, and just judging by these screens, I'd say this is a clear example of DA2 suffering from 'console-itis' in that department.

Awww.. Poor pc player

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

[Beaner28]

Steffen wrote...

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Oh, my mind was open with regards to BioWare changing my opinion, and I'll admit once or twice they've made me consider buying it, but on the whole?
No, I won't buy it.

This is what i don't understand, if you don't support bioware why are you here?
you have a right to express your oppinion but what good does it do?

Why are you here?

[tmp7704]

elirian_19 wrote...

What I don't agree with is that those defending the graphics should just move on because they happen to disagree with or dislike the opinions of those who don't.

Ahh no, sorry then, i didn't make myself clear by the looks of it   Defending the graphics if someone happens to like them, i have absolutely nothing against it.

It was specifically the kind of arguments which make it appear that the poster realizes they cannot defend the graphics as they are (for whatever reason) but they cannot stand to see the game getting criticized, so they divert discussion either by trying to reduce importance of the issue ("graphics aren't all that matters") or by bringing up other, unrelated factors ("game can still otherwise be good")  I.e. it's no longer discussion about the graphics and their own merits (or lack thereof) but something else that isn't really relevant.

[Atakuma]

Beaner28 wrote...

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

Your high end PC isn't going to impress anybody. You might as well brag about how good you are at picking your nose.

[nijnij]

I find the whole aliasing complaint ridiculous. I'm just 23 so I don't consider myself an old-timer but to me, the notion of video game is inseparable from that of pixels. That's just nitpicking.

[Fraevar]

Beaner28 wrote...

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

Oh by the time this game comes out I'll be running a K-SKU Sandy Bridge system with 8GB of memory and a Geforce GTX570 - that's not the issue. The issue is that you can have all that horse power and the game can still run extremely poorly if the developer has not actually taken the time to optimize. Case in point - the atrocious GTA IV port.

[crimzontearz]

this entire discussion is futile, the only screens that should be open to judgement are the official PC ones OR console shots at the native resolution.......AND belonging to the latest build regardless of the platform. Anything else is way too subject to circumstantial factors to be representative of the final quality of the game

[Erode_The_Soul]

Beaner28 wrote...

Steffen wrote...

Awww.. Poor pc player

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

It might be better for everyone in this thread if we avoided launching into yet another pathetic platform war.

Maybe if we get a series of screenshots which are clearly labeled PC vs 360, and one is clearly superior, then platform might be relevant. Right now, however, all platforms are on equal footing.

[ankuu]

crimzontearz wrote...

this entire discussion is futile, the only screens that should be open to judgement are the official PC ones OR console shots at the native resolution.......AND belonging to the latest build regardless of the platform. Anything else is way too subject to circumstantial factors to be representative of the final quality of the game

And i am wondering...why aren't they releasing 2 screenshots from each platform, same scene, high and los res? I understand them being secretive about info but screenshots?

[sevalaricgirl]

The ogres look terrible. Why on earth would they change them to look like that. Makes me wonder what the art director was thinking.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

crimzontearz wrote...

this entire discussion is futile, the only screens that should be open to judgement are the official PC ones OR console shots at the native resolution.......AND belonging to the latest build regardless of the platform. Anything else is way too subject to circumstantial factors to be representative of the final quality of the game

Does it really matter when just about every screen shot the game looks pretty asstastic visually anyway? I mean really.

[slimgrin]

Atakuma wrote...

Beaner28 wrote...

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

Your high end PC isn't going to impress anybody. You might as well brag about how good you are at picking your nose.

I've impressed many women with my pc, with my long list of games.....ok, no I haven't..really.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:12 .

[C9316]

Ugh! The blood spatter and the ogres look terrible. I rofl'd at how big emissaries are though.

[ankuu]

slimgrin wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Beaner28 wrote...

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

Your high end PC isn't going to impress anybody. You might as well brag about how good you are at picking your nose.

I've impressed many women with my pc, with my long list of games.....ok, no I haven't..really.

You just didn't find the right women to impress :lol:I surely impressed a lot of guys by just saying i play games. This guy at a bookshop followed me around while i was looking for the Assassin's Creed book asking me "YOU? You play AC? When is Brotherhood coming out? Aha...".

Modifié par ankuu, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:21 .

[elirian_19]

ankuu wrote...

You just didn't find the right women to impress :lol:I surely impressed a lot of guys by just saying i play games. This guy at a bookshop followed me around while i was looking for the Assassin's Creed book asking me "YOU? You play AC? When is Brotherhood coming out? Aha...".

*fistbump*

[rabidhanar]

Emissaries and ogres are so ugly now....makes me want to cry.



I was more scared by the Origins Ogres then by these things....they look comical not scary and definently not dark.



All I think about them is that they are all smiling at me...and Emissaries are too big, way to big...Even bigger than our good friend the architect in Awakening...

[Beaner28]

Atakuma wrote...

Beaner28 wrote...

It's okay, bro. Not everyone can afford a high end PC. I'll stick with my SLI-optimized rig even though BioWare is too lazy to take advantage of newer GPU power.

Your high end PC isn't going to impress anybody. You might as well brag about how good you are at picking your nose.

I'm not trying to impress anyone. Words can't express how much I don't care about your personal opinions.

[Blacklash93]

ankuu wrote...

Guys guys! The graphic part is not the only important thing in a game. Would you buy a game with AMAZING graphics but a really bad story? I wouldn't. 

That's such a stupid excuse. Bioware games are almost guaranteed to have a good story and the effort put into graphics has no effect on that.

With a company of Bioware's stature and resources, we should be getting both.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:31 .