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[Gabey5]

the darkspawn look way less menacing now

[The Bard From Hell]

I thought the darkspawn stupid in DA2 at first... Until I saw a close-up from a Hurlock from Origins... What's so funny about I gutting you?! Stop grinning!



On the other side, the Hurlocks eye from one of the very first pic looks way more detailed than even the armor in Origins. So, I don't know what to think about the whole deal. Hurlocks look like corrupted humans (but hey, they're basically that!), emissaries are giant (or they could be floating with a really big skirt, you know, like the Archtect did), and Ogres have bikinis. Overall, I just want to kill them.

[Gavinthelocust]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Silly man, Shrieks are still around according to Legends.

Oh. *facepalms at self*
Could you find me any images? Pretty please?

Oh fine, but only because I am such a nice and charitable soul :innocent:

See, completely unchanged.

[Tleining]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Yes, they where remakes but this is a sequel. If they made a sequel with Jackie Chan doing Will Smiths character, would that have worked?
Or a sequel to The Dark Knight where the Joker suddenly have long arms and looks like a ape with a big horned helmet on his head and pretending like he always looked that way. Whould that have worked? Or Dumbledore suddenly being a young beardless man. Or Rachel Dawes suddenly being black? Or Kingpin being white in a sequel?

I know, i only mentioned those because your point (spiderman suddenly being black) was a valid one. It works in a remake, i don't think i've ever seen it in a sequel.
Would it work? Katie Holmes and Maggie Gyllenhaal look different. There acting is different. The character of Dumbledore as portrayed by Harris is completely different from what Sir Ian showed us. People just accepted the reason behind these changes and moved on. So obviously it worked.
Michael Jackson went from black to white, if it works in real life ....

[Maria Caliban]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

JamesX wrote...

It is an art choice to make them look more alien than just humans and dwarves with leprosy. I don't see how this change the lore though. They are still humanoid with opposable thumbs, so nothing they could have done before is out of reach for them now.

But what about the Emissary now being their own sort and not being Hulocks or Genlocks. What does that do to, say, Awakening where there where all these talking Hurlock Emissarys playing an importent part?

I don't believe that emissaries are their 'own sort.' This is an elven emissary. Given the history of Sundermount, there might have been a large amount of elves in the Free Marches at some point, or maybe the Darkspawn sacked an alienage.

It doesn't mean that herlock and genlock emissaries never existed.

[I Like Cats And]

The Hurlocks looks cool as hell, everything else is kinda meh.

[Solduri]

i like the new darkspawn they look more like what they are suppose to be corrupted men instead of orc rip offs

[Johnny Shepard]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

JamesX wrote...

It is an art choice to make them look more alien than just humans and dwarves with leprosy. I don't see how this change the lore though. They are still humanoid with opposable thumbs, so nothing they could have done before is out of reach for them now.

But what about the Emissary now being their own sort and not being Hulocks or Genlocks. What does that do to, say, Awakening where there where all these talking Hurlock Emissarys playing an importent part?

I don't believe that emissaries are their 'own sort.' This is an elven emissary. Given the history of Sundermount, there might have been a large amount of elves in the Free Marches at some point, or maybe the Darkspawn sacked an alienage.

It doesn't mean that herlock and genlock emissaries never existed.

I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

[Johnny Shepard]

Tleining wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Yes, they where remakes but this is a sequel. If they made a sequel with Jackie Chan doing Will Smiths character, would that have worked?
Or a sequel to The Dark Knight where the Joker suddenly have long arms and looks like a ape with a big horned helmet on his head and pretending like he always looked that way. Whould that have worked? Or Dumbledore suddenly being a young beardless man. Or Rachel Dawes suddenly being black? Or Kingpin being white in a sequel?

I know, i only mentioned those because your point (spiderman suddenly being black) was a valid one. It works in a remake, i don't think i've ever seen it in a sequel.
Would it work? Katie Holmes and Maggie Gyllenhaal look different. There acting is different. The character of Dumbledore as portrayed by Harris is completely different from what Sir Ian showed us. People just accepted the reason behind these changes and moved on. So obviously it worked.
Michael Jackson went from black to white, if it works in real life ....

Maybe they used the Mirror of Transformation.

[tmp7704]

Solduri wrote...

i like the new darkspawn they look more like what they are suppose to be corrupted men instead of orc rip offs

there's few things that image makes me think, but "it's a (corrupted) man (babe)" isn't one of them, really.

[David Gaider]

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

One should be aware, however, that not every creature that exists in the setting will be present in DA2. Just because you don't see them this time doesn't mean they've vanished from existence.

[Shepard Lives]

David Gaider wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

Oooooh.

Edit - removed idiocy on my own part. *facepalm*

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 24 janvier 2011 - 03:23 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

drahelvete wrote...

Also, please discuss in a fare way without insults och namecalling!

Swenglish ftw
 

That made me laugh! I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. More popele should sneak in their native language every now and the.

As for the new design: I like it. as simple as that.

[Herr Uhl]

Shepard Lives wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

Oooooh.

Edit - removed idiocy on my own part. *facepalm*

Despite your ninjaedit, the shrieks look pretty similar in legends as in origins.

[Johnny Shepard]

David Gaider wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

One should be aware, however, that not every creature that exists in the setting will be present in DA2. Just because you don't see them this time doesn't mean they've vanished from existence.

Aaah, thank you thank you! That reallt made my day!

Can the same be said about the Genlocks? That the old type still exist?

Modifié par Johnny Shepard, 24 janvier 2011 - 03:48 .

[LPPrince]

The new Genlock is an undead elcor, durr.



I thought everyone knew that.

[ScotGaymer]

Yeh more "proof" that the Dragon Effect: Revenge of the Old Reaper Gods naysaying crowd will use to deride DA2 - the Genlocks looking like mini elcor.



My problem with the new darkspawn isnt the new design - which I am more or less fine with except maybe the Genlocks...

My problem is that the quality of them in a graphical sense sucks; low res and blocky looking. I mean when did Bioware regress to pre-Jade Empire graphics?



The whole game from the screen shots looks really bland, low res, and boring; especially when you compare it to the utter gorgeousness of Mass Effect 2 (especially the ps3 version).



Thankfully the majority of the screen shots are alpha and early beta screenies and hopefully the models and textures will have been vastly improved since then. Going by the trailers they look at have gotten better anyway; but when you consider that they have been trying to prettify Dragon Age up to appeal to the shallow gamer crowd (which they wont anyway cos Dragon Age and Mass Effect are "gay" and "girly") its a bit of a surprise that the game doesnt look better than it does currently.

Okay the latest trailers the game doesnt look as ugly and low res as it did in the early screenies but neither does it look as pretty and awe-inspiring as ME can; at least nothing we have seen so far looks that way to me.

[Kidd]

Yellow Words wrote...

drahelvete wrote...

Also, please discuss in a fare way without insults och namecalling!

Swenglish ftw
 

That made me laugh! I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. More popele should sneak in their native language every now and the.

As for the new design: I like it. as simple as that.

I didn't catch it either =)

I like the new designs, perhaps genlock aside. But we'll see, I'm absolutely sure it's just me opposing change and then I'll love it once I get used to it =) 'Tis happened before ^^

[Sanguinerin]

To the new Hurlocks, I don't dislike their new look. I agree with what Brockololly and perhaps others (I skimmed, mostly) have said. Their new look makes them look obviously copied. I can accept that they were intended to have a scrap armor look, but if that's the case, then here's hoping that there are at least one or two other variations of scrap armor that we just haven't seen.

It goes along with my distaste in the "People dress like Fereldens in the Free Marches" thread about the cutscene of cheering nobles: there are about five noble models in that crowd. I don't mind that necessarily, but when a copy of one of those models is standing right next to another copy of the same person, it's a little... Awkward. Preferably, copies would be spread out a little better or a little more, unless these lands are famous for twins.

I completely understand limitations for designs and in funds so I'm not exactly knocking the developers. They do have other things to worry about in the grand scheme. However, a couple variations (maybe a hurlock with shoulder pads and one without) or, if that would take too much time, spreading them out a little bit more would be preferable.

As for the new emissary look, I just don't understand their new height as much. If, as Maria said, these are elven-bred darkspawn emissaries, then I would imagine them to be shorter than human-bred hurlocks or at least the same height.

The new genlock look is also... Interesting. I would imagine it being a bronto-bred darkspawn before I believed that it was a genlock, but I'll wait and see if we get DA2 genlocks before judging them based solely on Legends.

EDIT: After re-reading David's post, I'm trying to be more understanding. I suppose a dwarven broodmother producing genlocks doesn't have to produce them all looking relatively the same in build. The definition of "genlock" could be along the lines of shorter, stockier sort of darkspawn. It just feels strange I suppose because genlocks seemed a lot more humanoid than the (I'll probably keep referring to them as this) bronto-looking genlock from Legends.

Also, are those particular emissaries born from elven broodmothers? I imagine that since hurlock emissaries still look like hurlocks and genlock emissaries still look like genlocks, that an elven emissary might look more shriek-like. I suppose it has lithe and bend/twisted done well, so it makes the most sense. Also, if darkspawn from the same broodmother can come in different shapes and sizes (such as the DAO genlock and the bronto-like genlock), then there could also very well be something else besides a shriek that looks more like that emissary from an elven broodmother.

Could this particular emissary be from another species though that isn't Dwarf, Elf, Human, or Qunari? That's what I gathered as a possibility from David's post.

Modifié par HallowedWarden, 24 janvier 2011 - 07:04 .

[Blacklash93]

David Gaider wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

One should be aware, however, that not every creature that exists in the setting will be present in DA2. Just because you don't see them this time doesn't mean they've vanished from existence.

So can I take this as a confirmation that Genlocks and Shrieks are out for DA2?

That Hawke will not encounter them and only see only one race of emisssary (even among huge swarms) by sheer coincidence?

Modifié par Blacklash93, 24 janvier 2011 - 06:57 .

[Vearsin]

The new darkspawn remind of villains from powe rangers

[emile_the_devil]

The new Emissary actually looks cute to me lol, at least the bottom left pic of it without its leather straps and stuff on.

[Shepard Lives]

Blacklash93 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...
I sure hope your right but I have my doubts. I wish the devs could give as clear info about this.
Like the new Genlocks I think this is a major change to make Emissarys uniqe.

There are still different types of emissaries-- they are not their own "class" of darkspawn.

One should be aware, however, that not every creature that exists in the setting will be present in DA2. Just because you don't see them this time doesn't mean they've vanished from existence.

So can I take this as a confirmation that Genlocks and Shrieks are out for DA2?

That Hawke will not encounter them and only see only one race of emisssary (even among huge swarms) by sheer coincidence?

*headdesk*

[Blacklash93]

I know that's no kind of confirmation, but I'm saying that comment makes it seem likely the worst case scenario is what's happening. If the devs aren't addressing such concerns now, what we're thinking could very well be the truth.

I don't see what warrant a headdesk in my comment. It's just a little indirect embelishment.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 24 janvier 2011 - 09:32 .

[Annarl]

Gabey5 wrote...

the darkspawn look way less menacing now

The first time I saw the new darkspawn, I laughed. Out loud.  Not exactly menacing material.   I wish the devs would explain the appearance change.  Are the darkspawn changing?  Maybe I missed this explanation.

Modifié par omearaee, 24 janvier 2011 - 10:03 .