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[marshalleck]

Ogres went from purple to brown.



RUINED FOREVER!!!

[Blacklash93]

I don't see the big deal with the ogre redesing. Sure, I like the old one better, especially the skin color and around the face, but it's not like the new one is drastically different.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 25 janvier 2011 - 02:51 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

The change to the genlock is beyond me. They are darkspawnified Dwarves, and Dwarves don't look like gorillas. If the whole point of changing the Hurlock was to make them look more human....why make the genlock look nothing like a dwarf?

I do not understand.

[Nimpe]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The change to the genlock is beyond me. They are darkspawnified Dwarves, and Dwarves don't look like gorillas. If the whole point of changing the Hurlock was to make them look more human....why make the genlock look nothing like a dwarf?
I do not understand.

Qunaris look nothing like ogres
female don't look like brood mothers
elves don't look like shieks
They're supposed to look different.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Nimpe wrote...
Qunaris look nothing like ogres
female don't look like brood mothers
elves don't look like shieks
They're supposed to look different.

With horns, the Ogres do look like Qunaris. That's where they get the horns.
Broodmothers are different.
It's true, shrieks didn't look like elves and it's a shame.

Then why change the hurlock and make them look more human?
That was the justification to the change, to make them look more human.

[Nimpe]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Nimpe wrote...
Qunaris look nothing like ogres
female don't look like brood mothers
elves don't look like shieks
They're supposed to look different.

With horns, the Ogres do look like Qunaris. That's where they get the horns.
Broodmothers are different.
It's true, shrieks didn't look like elves and it's a shame.

Then why change the hurlock and make them look more human?
That was the justification to the change, to make them look more human.

They're not SUPPOSED to look like zombified versions of the original classes. They're supposed to look different, because they're a different species with some similarities to the originals.

Modifié par Nimpe, 25 janvier 2011 - 02:49 .

[Blacklash93]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The change to the genlock is beyond me. They are darkspawnified Dwarves, and Dwarves don't look like gorillas. If the whole point of changing the Hurlock was to make them look more human....why make the genlock look nothing like a dwarf?
I do not understand.

I'm not against it. In Origins Genlocks were basically smaller Hurlocks and nothing more. I can't blame Bioware for wanting to make them a bit more distinctive from the crowd.

It's probably the only Darkspawn redesign I completely agree with. I really hope they're in DA2 along with Shrieks.

If not, pretty much all areas with Darkspawn present are most likely going to be spoiled for me. I can't enjoy a setting if I can't believe it given the current lore, as wierd as that sounds.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 25 janvier 2011 - 03:04 .

[Haristo]

I hate this new Genlock. the old ones sounded much more like common stuff, like the Orcs of LOTR. these one look like Tainted elcors...

However the emmisary is perfect. I also like the new colours for the Ogre, much more realistic. <3

Modifié par Haristo, 25 janvier 2011 - 02:59 .

[Johnny Shepard]

Well, hopefully they will tell us something about the Genlocks soon. Or maybe David Gaider will dropp by again and tell us.

[nijnij]

I liked genlocks because Hurlocks were horrifying, ogres were horrifying, shrieks were horrifying, and genlocks were the cute ones. Now they're just horrifying. No more darkspawn mascotte

[Jafari]

One theory might be that, Like humans, Darkspawn from certain areas of the world may turn out differently from their siblings in other parts.

Modifié par Links-2-3-4, 25 janvier 2011 - 02:49 .

[tmp7704]

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm not against it. In Origins Genlocks were basically smaller Hurlocks and nothing more. I can't blame Bioware for wanting to make them a bit more distinctive from the crowd.

They were "smaller Hurlocks and nothing more" in the same way one could call a DA dwarf "smaller human and nothing more". But i think if you placed human next to a dwarf they're be pretty easy to tell apart, and as such the need for extra disctinction would be quite a stretch.

I wouldn't mind if this new genlock thing was i dunno, tainted mabari or something. But as genlocks they really strain suspension of disbelief.

[Captain Sassy Pants]

marshalleck wrote...

Ogres went from purple to brown.

RUINED FOREVER!!!

Or, the whole facial structure has changed completely, but you know, I guess it's best to ignore that.

[Captain Sassy Pants]

I dislike all of the redesigns. Simple as that.

[Johnny Shepard]

Hmm, maybe there will be no Genlocks at all?

[Eudaemonium]

tmp7704 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm not against it. In Origins Genlocks were basically smaller Hurlocks and nothing more. I can't blame Bioware for wanting to make them a bit more distinctive from the crowd.

They were "smaller Hurlocks and nothing more" in the same way one could call a DA dwarf "smaller human and nothing more". But i think if you placed human next to a dwarf they're be pretty easy to tell apart, and as such the need for extra disctinction would be quite a stretch.

I wouldn't mind if this new genlock thing was i dunno, tainted mabari or something. But as genlocks they really strain suspension of disbelief.

I don't really get where this "Genlocks were smaller Hurlocks in Origins" comes from. As far as I could tell they looked completely and utterly different. For a start they looked like orcs/goblins whereas Hurlocks looked more like humans with peeling, rotting skin. Did I play a different Origins to you guys or something?

As for the new Genlock design, i'm goign to wait until I see what it looks like in the actual DA2, but I definitely prefer it to Origins.

[Loc'n'lol]

Eudaemonium wrote...
For a start they looked like orcs/goblins

I think this is the only problem with their looks in DAO... So yeah they probably wanted to change that. Shrieks don't look that much like elves (except they're lithe and slender), ogres don't look that much like qunari (except they're big muscular and have horns), so it's not that much of a stretch for genlocks to get this new design. If anything, the hurlocks are the odd ones, because they look more like humans now. Probably because it saves the need to make a set of animations for them, and allows them to use a variety of weapons.

[Blacklash93]

tmp7704 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm not against it. In Origins Genlocks were basically smaller Hurlocks and nothing more. I can't blame Bioware for wanting to make them a bit more distinctive from the crowd.

They were "smaller Hurlocks and nothing more" in the same way one could call a DA dwarf "smaller human and nothing more". But i think if you placed human next to a dwarf they're be pretty easy to tell apart, and as such the need for extra disctinction would be quite a stretch.

I wouldn't mind if this new genlock thing was i dunno, tainted mabari or something. But as genlocks they really strain suspension of disbelief.

Dwarves are also powerhouses. I think it's cool to see that translate over to the Genlocks.

[Hedera]

I am of the opinion the redesigns were to differentiate DA from other similar universes (i. e. LoTR)
The first time I loaded up DA:O, I saw the Orcs Genlocks and the Uruk-Hai Hurlocks and thought to myself "Hmm... I've seen this before..."

[Eudaemonium]

cgrimm54 wrote...

I am of the opinion the redesigns were to differentiate DA from other similar universes (i. e. LoTR)
The first time I loaded up DA:O, I saw the Orcs Genlocks and the Uruk-Hai Hurlocks and thought to myself "Hmm... I've seen this before..."

I think hat said ti most for me was that it took me until after Ostagar to realise that those things were actually "darkspawn". I fought them all the way through the Korcari Wilds and all the time I was waiting for some darkspawn to show up instead of orcs and these strange bandit-looking things.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Blacklash93 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I'm not against it. In Origins Genlocks were basically smaller Hurlocks and nothing more. I can't blame Bioware for wanting to make them a bit more distinctive from the crowd.

They were "smaller Hurlocks and nothing more" in the same way one could call a DA dwarf "smaller human and nothing more". But i think if you placed human next to a dwarf they're be pretty easy to tell apart, and as such the need for extra disctinction would be quite a stretch.

I wouldn't mind if this new genlock thing was i dunno, tainted mabari or something. But as genlocks they really strain suspension of disbelief.

Dwarves are also powerhouses. I think it's cool to see that translate over to the Genlocks.

I think they could of had more fun with the concept of Genlocks than has been taken. Instead of basing the idea around a mutant gorilla, perhaps the genlocks could of drawn more off a twisted dwarf/mole design, perhaps making them nearly blind, powerfully built and with more body hair and long clawlike hands. At least the concept in my mind looks pretty wicked. I would post a sketch but it wouldn't amount to much.

[Johnny Shepard]

cgrimm54 wrote...

I am of the opinion the redesigns were to differentiate DA from other similar universes (i. e. LoTR)
The first time I loaded up DA:O, I saw the Orcs Genlocks and the Uruk-Hai Hurlocks and thought to myself "Hmm... I've seen this before..."

Me to but that was what I liked about the game. I feelt right at home from the start. In my book a Western Fantasy game should have Elves, Dwarves, Mages, Orcs, Ogres, Goblings, Demons aso. So I was happy that the Darkspawn feelt like a typical Fantasy evil force.
Take away Dwarves, Elves and Orcs, what is left of an Western RPG?

[Eudaemonium]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

I think they could of had more fun with the concept of Genlocks than has been taken. Instead of basing the idea around a mutant gorilla, perhaps the genlocks could of drawn more off a twisted dwarf/mole design, perhaps making them nearly blind, powerfully built and with more body hair and long clawlike hands. At least the concept in my mind looks pretty wicked. I would post a sketch but it wouldn't amount to much.

Y'know, I doubt it looks anything like what you have pictured in your mind's eye, but you description makes me think of the creatures in HP Lovecraft's 'The Lurking Fear'.

[Johnny Shepard]

I wonder why they don't make animal-Broodmother? Like Bears, Wolves, Dogs or Cats?