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[Joram Talid]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

first off, there are no humans in star wars. they just look completely human. for godsakes, they are from a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.

also, humans are not really the 'good guys' in mass effect. YOU(the player, silly) are human, of course; but that is so you can relate to the decisions you can make. if the main character was alien and made humanlike decisions, THAT would be cliche.

personally, i love the way ME was done, because i can understand the motives and decisions of every single race in the galaxy(volus, elcor, batarian, krogan, ect).

as arnold has said before, STOP WHINING!

Calm down there. I'm not whining. I'm just stating my opinion without offending anyone. Also if they weren't human, what were they? Piles of goo?

the 'stop whining' was a pop culture joke. sorry, but i love my classic arnold movies.

also, ever hear of the word 'humanoid'?

[Matchy Pointy]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

It seem OP forgot about Vido Santiago tried to kill Zaeed not once but twice,TIM,Wilson and some Cerberus employees/mercenaries Shepard fought in ME1.

and udina, who is clearly a bad guy, and oh so fun to get Anderson to punch, wish I could have done it msyelf.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Cru Hunter wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
But in the end, they were BAD.

You do make convenient statements that uphold the "always"  They're not always bad. You can feel free to admit at any time that they're ever increasingly good. As for humans being bad, the same can be said.

In the end though, is it really all too bad who the bad guy is as long as it's part of a great game?

It isn't al that bad, but I'd like to see something else for a change. That's why I liked Avatar and District 9.

[Joram Talid]

also, stop spamming the forums, mangeo. i have no interest in interacting with you.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

first off, there are no humans in star wars. they just look completely human. for godsakes, they are from a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.

also, humans are not really the 'good guys' in mass effect. YOU(the player, silly) are human, of course; but that is so you can relate to the decisions you can make. if the main character was alien and made humanlike decisions, THAT would be cliche.

personally, i love the way ME was done, because i can understand the motives and decisions of every single race in the galaxy(volus, elcor, batarian, krogan, ect).

as arnold has said before, STOP WHINING!

Calm down there. I'm not whining. I'm just stating my opinion without offending anyone. Also if they weren't human, what were they? Piles of goo?

the 'stop whining' was a pop culture joke. sorry, but i love my classic arnold movies.

also, ever hear of the word 'humanoid'?

They looked pretty HUMAN to me.

[Joram Talid]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
But in the end, they were BAD.

You do make convenient statements that uphold the "always"  They're not always bad. You can feel free to admit at any time that they're ever increasingly good. As for humans being bad, the same can be said.

In the end though, is it really all too bad who the bad guy is as long as it's part of a great game?

It isn't al that bad, but I'd like to see something else for a change. That's why I liked Avatar and District 9.

so you liked the CLICHE RIDDEN avatar, but you are complaining about an original story in ME?
don't get, do i.

[Matchy Pointy]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

first off, there are no humans in star wars. they just look completely human. for godsakes, they are from a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.

also, humans are not really the 'good guys' in mass effect. YOU(the player, silly) are human, of course; but that is so you can relate to the decisions you can make. if the main character was alien and made humanlike decisions, THAT would be cliche.

personally, i love the way ME was done, because i can understand the motives and decisions of every single race in the galaxy(volus, elcor, batarian, krogan, ect).

as arnold has said before, STOP WHINING!

Calm down there. I'm not whining. I'm just stating my opinion without offending anyone. Also if they weren't human, what were they? Piles of goo?

the 'stop whining' was a pop culture joke. sorry, but i love my classic arnold movies.

also, ever hear of the word 'humanoid'?

They looked pretty HUMAN to me.

Well, techicly, they were in a galaxy far, far away, so they werent the same humans as you or me, though I think we can call them humans for the sake of argument (wich still is that the most evil persons in Star Wars, were clearly Humans).

[Joram Talid]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

first off, there are no humans in star wars. they just look completely human. for godsakes, they are from a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.

also, humans are not really the 'good guys' in mass effect. YOU(the player, silly) are human, of course; but that is so you can relate to the decisions you can make. if the main character was alien and made humanlike decisions, THAT would be cliche.

personally, i love the way ME was done, because i can understand the motives and decisions of every single race in the galaxy(volus, elcor, batarian, krogan, ect).

as arnold has said before, STOP WHINING!

Calm down there. I'm not whining. I'm just stating my opinion without offending anyone. Also if they weren't human, what were they? Piles of goo?

the 'stop whining' was a pop culture joke. sorry, but i love my classic arnold movies.

also, ever hear of the word 'humanoid'?

They looked pretty HUMAN to me.

do i need to quote the 'long long time ago galaxy far far away' statement again? the reason they look exactly human is obvious, isn't it? dare i spell out simple words?

[Ramirez Wolfen]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

It seem OP forgot about Vido Santiago tried to kill Zaeed not once but twice,TIM,Wilson and some Cerberus employees/mercenaries Shepard fought in ME1.

None of them matter in the grand scheme of things. Especially Wilson.

[Matchy Pointy]

mangeo wrote...

Matchy Pointy wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Humans aren't always the good guys. Watch Babylon 5.

I don't like Babylon 5. LOLZ jk

Okay? This post seems pointless.

As does the whole thread really, as the point have been proven to not always be the case.

He didnt mean humans in generall!!!!!
He meant that humans were generaly seen as the good guys in virtualy all media!!!
If you cant contribute a valid point to the conversation at hand then get off your high horse & dont comment man!!!

Right back at you.

[InvincibleHero]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Fade is human and so is the rule bending C-sec captain that abuses suspects. harkin was a real piece of humanity in the first game and who can forget the Exo-geni man in Feros. Fist crime boss and murderer/drug dealer. There are plenty of human villains in the game.

Yet none of them are major.

It shows that evil is spread through all the species. In fact the humans are portrayed as the most evil. Human prisoners on Purgatory and even Jack is no goody-two shoes. Human raiders sell human colonists into slavery.

Saren was misguided, the geth created and tried to be destroyed and now only the violent ones because of a logic error in their programming, Benezia was misguided by Saren and Sovereign.

Harkin is just pure scum with no redeemable qualities. All the aliens are portrayed as nobler than humans IMO. There is only Shepard a sa shining example of humanity or not if you choose renegade. Udina is a lousy person that backsatbs you for political gain (like any human worth his salt aparrently).

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
But in the end, they were BAD.

You do make convenient statements that uphold the "always"  They're not always bad. You can feel free to admit at any time that they're ever increasingly good. As for humans being bad, the same can be said.

In the end though, is it really all too bad who the bad guy is as long as it's part of a great game?

It isn't al that bad, but I'd like to see something else for a change. That's why I liked Avatar and District 9.

so you liked the CLICHE RIDDEN avatar, but you are complaining about an original story in ME?
don't get, do i.

How is the story in Mass Effect original? A soldier fighting against an alien race that is hellbent on destroying humans? How many times have we seen this? (Halo, Gears of War, etc.)

Modifié par Ramirez Wolfen, 22 janvier 2011 - 07:03 .

[Scrith]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Three major ALIEN enemies in ME1 are Saren, Geth, and the Reapers.

Maybe cause there's more alien species than human? Thus there's more alien in general and more bad aliens. There are bad humans too you know.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

tbh you are a human in mass effect 2 and are a good guy buy you definitely do not work for good guys, I'd imagine in mass effect 3 Shepard will have a falling out with cerberus

[Ramirez Wolfen]

You don't exactly work FOR Cerberus, you more or less work WITH them. And according to some (not me), Cerberus isn't exactly bad, so I don't know if they count.

[Jacen987]

Udina was bad quy,Fist was a bad quy,Helene Blake,Illusive man,Cerberus,Blue Suns,Santiago,the **** for Kasumi;'s DLC....etc,etc.etc

[Matchy Pointy]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

You don't exactly work FOR Cerberus, you more or less work WITH them. And according to some (not me), Cerberus isn't exactly bad, so I don't know if they count.

Well, they do human experiments, terroist acts and who knows what else. All of them arent bad, but well, I think we can call Cerberus as a whole bad guys on most accounts.

[Joram Talid]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
But in the end, they were BAD.

You do make convenient statements that uphold the "always"  They're not always bad. You can feel free to admit at any time that they're ever increasingly good. As for humans being bad, the same can be said.

In the end though, is it really all too bad who the bad guy is as long as it's part of a great game?

It isn't al that bad, but I'd like to see something else for a change. That's why I liked Avatar and District 9.

so you liked the CLICHE RIDDEN avatar, but you are complaining about an original story in ME?
don't get, do i.

How is the story in Mass Effect original? A soldier fighting against an alien race that is hellbent on destroying humans? How many times have we seen this? (Halo, Gears of War, etc.)

the depth and realism(compaired to other scifi, of course) of the story bleed with originality.
also, i'm not sure if i'd count robots as being a race.
thirdly, what would you reccomend for an original plot that can captivate audiences?

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Scrith wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Three major ALIEN enemies in ME1 are Saren, Geth, and the Reapers.

Maybe cause there's more alien species than human? Thus there's more alien in general and more bad aliens. There are bad humans too you know.

Are there enough bad humans that influence the plot? IMO since Shepard is human, at least one of the major villains could at least be human.

[marshalleck]

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Joram Talid wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Cru Hunter wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
But in the end, they were BAD.

You do make convenient statements that uphold the "always"  They're not always bad. You can feel free to admit at any time that they're ever increasingly good. As for humans being bad, the same can be said.

In the end though, is it really all too bad who the bad guy is as long as it's part of a great game?

It isn't al that bad, but I'd like to see something else for a change. That's why I liked Avatar and District 9.

so you liked the CLICHE RIDDEN avatar, but you are complaining about an original story in ME?
don't get, do i.

How is the story in Mass Effect original? A soldier fighting against an alien race that is hellbent on destroying humans? How many times have we seen this? (Halo, Gears of War, etc.)

the depth and realism(compaired to other scifi, of course) of the story bleed with originality.
also, i'm not sure if i'd count robots as being a race.
thirdly, what would you reccomend for an original plot that can captivate audiences?

Mass Effect lifted pretty much everything directly from other works of science fiction and space opera. The only thing it really did well was tying it all together into a coherent whole, which worked fantastically. 

Then of course they set about undoing it all in ME2...